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Posted April 11, 2015
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A_Future_Pilot: So apparently the Egyptian mafia was hosted by NotFrenchYet...I'm not sure what CSPVG game I was in...or maybe he was just in a game with me. I don't know! lol


(Not a direct quote obviously, but that's what I got out of it).

?? Uh...voting with flimsy reasoning much?
Vote trentonlf
You seem to have missed the end of my post or maybe you are just choosing to ignore it, but either way I said "You seem to be trying to direct things a certain way and I don't like it". Never said my vote was for my disagreeing on how he rated the roles. Just pointing out how I disagreed with some of his takes.

I guess I will put you in the bookwyrm/yogsloth club of not reading posts properly or interpreting them wrong to fit your vote.
Posted April 11, 2015
edit to my above post to add the word table. sigh. I love no edits. =)

... I see you sitting at the table just sipping...

Also I forgot to add Welcome back to the game Pilot. (Is it ok to call you Pilot for the game as I tend to shorten or nick name people without their approval...right Wyrm <--- looks I got the R in it this time. =)

@yogs - I do not agree at all to RVS is for losers as to me it gets people talking and gets things moving though most of it is banter and poking people (and getting the feel of players) there is possibility to learn things from it. *straightens shirt with big L on it*
Posted April 11, 2015
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yogsloth: Black betty - bam ba lem, yooohooo black betty - bam ba lem.
tl;dr
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yogsloth: Have a seat my friends; I’d like to ask you a few questions…
Oh, is that so?
Posted April 11, 2015
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trentonlf: You seem to have missed the end of my post or maybe you are just choosing to ignore it, but either way I said "You seem to be trying to direct things a certain way and I don't like it". Never said my vote was for my disagreeing on how he rated the roles. Just pointing out how I disagreed with some of his takes.

I guess I will put you in the bookwyrm/yogsloth club of not reading posts properly or interpreting them wrong to fit your vote.
Sorry, I was pressed for time a bit when I wrote that. I should have been more clear. Your reasoning of him trying to direct things didn't really make sense to me. It seemed like most of your post was reasons you disagreed with him, but then you ended by saying he was directing things. That didn't really follow for me, and so I voted you for voting without a good reason. Does that make sense?

@Sage (Don't know how to multiquote without an edit, so I'll use @ signs)...anyway, it's totally fine for you to nickname me! I have a bad habit of rarely calling someone the same thing twice and letting their name slowly morph into whatever it will throughout the course of a conversation lol (CSPVG has become basically any string of letters that start with a C in the past...)

@Hijack: LOL!!! Now that song's stuck in my head! :P
Posted April 11, 2015
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A_Future_Pilot: @Hijack: LOL!!! Now that song's stuck in my head! :P
ikr?
Posted April 11, 2015
Wow...I just realized I totally know how to quote multiple people...just put quote tags lol

Also, thanks for the welcome Sage! And you can definitely treat me as new to the game...you have more experience than I do! lol I still feel like I'm brand new around these games :)

@Hijack: Totally!
Posted April 11, 2015
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A_Future_Pilot: Sorry, I was pressed for time a bit when I wrote that. I should have been more clear. Your reasoning of him trying to direct things didn't really make sense to me. It seemed like most of your post was reasons you disagreed with him, but then you ended by saying he was directing things. That didn't really follow for me, and so I voted you for voting without a good reason. Does that make sense?
1. Why should we be talking roles right now?
We shouldn't be

2. Who benefits from knowing the roles the most at this point?
Scum

3. What is a good reason to give a rank of roles if you are not trying to induce talk about roles.
I can't think of one

So I see his whole post as a "look at me I'm trying to look like a good townie" and in reality all he is doing is trying to bait people into talking about roles. I don't agree with it so I voted.
Posted April 11, 2015
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yogsloth: Let's do This!

LEEEEEEEEEEROOOOOOhhhh wait, that joke was already used last time.
Oh yes, we're going to get along just fine. Unless you're scum, in which case I'll need you to die.
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adaliabooks: I knew you and Bookwyrm were the same person ;)

Ok, let's just get this over with we all know he has to be scum:

Vote Krypsyn

Sorry ;)
And as the (second) person to try and steal my Krypsyn RVS vote reason: Vote Adalia
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yogsloth: <Screw RVS phase>
That was quick. Guess I should Unvote Adalia.

Since you've taken the lunatic raving, Yog, I'll try to cover the math. We have 11 town and 3 scum. There are 8 powers, so at least 6 people are straight up vanilla, and scum have at most 3 powers. And that's about it for math right now; looks like I got the easy job.

I figure it is probably safe to assume that scum didn't make a try for commuter. Most of the rest of the powers have some use, either directly or to deny them to town (like doctor).

Vengeful is at least as good a power for scum as Vigilante, if not better. We have to lynch at least two of them (3 if we didn't get the vig shot), and vengeful will either kill a townie on the way out or it will tell them for sure who has a power. Later: Aaaand I see that Trent mostly covered this in a post I hadn't read yet.

@Pilot: I'm not sure that scum will try role claiming just yet. Seems like a bit too much risk today.

@Sage: Wyrm works just fine for me. :) Also, Yog wants to skip the banter and move into more serious discussion. I'm good with this idea. I may not agree entirely with his analysis, but I like the idea of moving along.


One interesting thing I noted about the setup was that as people are lynched (what about NK?), we're going to lose discussion days. Before I separated out the NK count, a non-serious thought crossed my mind: "So if there's only 1 player left, (s)he has one day to decide who to lynch?"

Mod Question: Lynches reduce our discussion days. Do NK's (or vig/venge kills) also reduce the discussion day count?
Posted April 11, 2015
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A_Future_Pilot:
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trentonlf: 1. Why should we be talking roles right now?
We shouldn't be

2. Who benefits from knowing the roles the most at this point?
Scum

3. What is a good reason to give a rank of roles if you are not trying to induce talk about roles.
I can't think of one

So I see his whole post as a "look at me I'm trying to look like a good townie" and in reality all he is doing is trying to bait people into talking about roles. I don't agree with it so I voted.
OK, that makes more sense. I don't entirely agree with you, but it makes sense.

Unvote trentonlf (See Sage? I amembered! Aren't you proud of me? ;) <- https://xkcd.com/541/

Why shouldn't we be talking about roles? I understand that role claiming at this point would be extremely anti-town, but I don't quite see how just discussing the merits or value of various roles is scummy.
Posted April 11, 2015
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A_Future_Pilot: Wow...I just realized I totally know how to quote multiple people...just put quote tags lol

Also, thanks for the welcome Sage! And you can definitely treat me as new to the game...you have more experience than I do! lol I still feel like I'm brand new around these games :)

@Hijack: Totally!
And my point is made by Books2, he starts talking about roles and that's not what we should be talking about. As much as yog's wants this to get out of RVS talking about roles is not the way to do it.
Posted April 11, 2015
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trentonlf: And my point is made by Books2, he starts talking about roles and that's not what we should be talking about. As much as yog's wants this to get out of RVS talking about roles is not the way to do it.
I know you probably posted this before reading my last post, but it still doesn't make sense. WHY is talking about roles bad? How did Books2 make your point? As I said, claiming is out of the question (IMO), but I don't see why talking about roles is a bad thing.
Posted April 11, 2015
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A_Future_Pilot: I know you probably posted this before reading my last post, but it still doesn't make sense. WHY is talking about roles bad? How did Books2 make your point? As I said, claiming is out of the question (IMO), but I don't see why talking about roles is a bad thing.
We already know all the roles that can possibly be in the game, why talk about them? What benefit does town get from discussing roles?
Posted April 11, 2015
Pilot: Trent does have a point; it will be easy for a power role to slip up into revealing themself to scum.

Unfortunately, I'm not sure where else to go in the meantime. Trent, do you have a suggestion that doesn't consist of throwing random votes around until something sticks and someone dies?
Posted April 11, 2015
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Bookwyrm627: @Sage: Wyrm works just fine for me. :) Also, Yog wants to skip the banter and move into more serious discussion. I'm good with this idea. I may not agree entirely with his analysis, but I like the idea of moving along.
Yogs may want to skip it but im sorry yogs isn't the one making the rules this game (sorry Yogs I had to =P)

I have no problem with moving on to more serious decisions but I also think some back and forth is helpful and like I said gets some people talking and talking is what is going to help win this game. But like I said I am all for serious discussion too.
Posted April 11, 2015
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Bookwyrm627: Pilot: Trent does have a point; it will be easy for a power role to slip up into revealing themself to scum.

Unfortunately, I'm not sure where else to go in the meantime. Trent, do you have a suggestion that doesn't consist of throwing random votes around until something sticks and someone dies?
This is the hard part of the game, there is not much to talk about game wise. But as Sage said we need to talk or the game will go nowhere, and that is why the RVS stage is usually full of people posting trivial things. I think the reason RVS is the hardest part is because it's the "let me feel everyone out" phase. People are hesitant to post too much and everything is over scrutinized, but that's mafia LOL.

As for discussion, up to you. I would say whatever strikes your fancy, well except for talking roles LOL
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