Here is why I thought zeo peeked Mason (and still find it possible). It starts with zeo's first post that follows. Adalia already posted that
he was a Mason. Please remember my point of view - I am the Seer and I peeked at a Mason card.
bler144: I have no idea how to strategize for this game, so I'll just say that barring a change, I know someone who was definitely town at game start.
zeogold: How it normally works is that somebody says they know something or claims a role straight off the bat, so given what you've said, you have to be either our seer, our robber, a mason, or just lying.
Considering my own role, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you're the robber.
This first post set off huge alarm bells. First, when I saw bler's post mentioned above, I had considered posting something similar, but held back. I didn't think it was good to claim so early. Zeo goes 'out on a limb' to say bler is a robber. How could he know that bler is the robber and not the mason or the seer? I'm starting to look at the rules now to see if I misread something. I'm looking at the robber and troubleamker to see if there is someway someone else could know this. There's no way someone should know the same information I do. In retrospect, it can be argued it was a guess, but at the time it was too much of a coincidence for me.
So I'm confused, not that zeo is seemingly claiming Seer but that he seems to know the exact same information I do. I don't see how that is possible, but I know I can't let it slide so I
challenge him.
He
directly claims Seer in the next post.
Shortly after, as soon as zeo realizes that Adalia claimed mason, he responds to adalia with this:
zeogold: So, anybody wanna claim they're adalia's wake-up buddy?
Right away he's looking for a possible partner for adalia. Now this next part may have been my mistake (i.e. reading too much into it). I thought the "anybody" in it was a leading question. I can now see it as either a leading question or not. Regardless, there is no reason for the real Seer to be prompting for that information at that point.
As soon as I counter claim Seer, zeo claims one of his
'peeks' was werewolf. And this is why I'm pretty sure there is a lone-wolf and not two. Either minion-Zeo or lone-werewolf Zeo knows that one of the cards is a werewolf. The closer scum can stay to the truth, the better. In the same post he says:
zeogold: I'll hold off on the other one, 'cause it could be useful.
The "other one" refers to his other peek. So it could be useful, but then in this post he says:
zeogold: The other card I saw was a villager. Not exciting, but it is what it is. What are you gonna say your other card was?
That's all he says in that post about his second 'peek'. No mention about why he was now choosing to reveal it or why it was not longer useful to remained undisclosed. Later he
tries to hold my hesitancy to reveal the second peek against me.
Once zeo claimed Villager, I'm not sure if he actually peeked at the Mason card or the Villager card. At this point,
I've already said that I did not peek at a Werewolf card. I'm not sure why he says his other peek was Villager. Either he is betting that Villager is remaining and is hoping to match my claim. Or he may have actually looked at the Villager card and I read too much into what he said in those opening posts, thinking he knew more than he did. It also is possibile that he could be the minion and claims peeking at a werewolf and villager because they are both safe.
So yeah, I may have played that wrong. Zeo's moves are calculated. I hope everyone can see that I'm learning as I go. And those of you who know me should hopefully know this is not the way I would approach werewolf, minion, or tanner. I would not jump in off-the-cuff and make a counter claim like that.
I chose not to reveal my second peek to make sure I wasn't giving anything away too early. It may not have mattered at that point, but I wasn't taking any chances. If I was scum, I wouldn't have volunteered that the werewolf card was not one that I picked. I wish I had peeked at the werewolf card (assuming there is one) but I didn't. I'd like the 100% guarantee (at least for myself) that there is a lone-wolf. I think it's most likely a lone-wolf.
So my main question to myself is stll - is zeo werewolf or minion? Still leaning he is werewolf. Hearing more from our claimed villagers would be helpful.