Oh and hey fantasty quick question - were you the Tracker?

(Emphasis added)

When agent visited flubb, it removed his converting power for good, it was not a one night thing. (@all - right?) I don't think it was possible for flubb to convert Ixam after that.

@Ixam - What was up with the D3 vote? With the new info, it might help hearing your perspective on that again.

Hadn't refreshed for awhile....waiting for 10 minutes...it now says 11.

If there are two cult remaining, this could end badly. I hope you're onto something.

No, it's not me. Can I ask your reasoning for picking Dess?

Some assumption, some gut feeling. I'm guessing this is the last day for town if we mislynch. Cult knows who cult is and probably has two votes. Town doesn't know other town. You all *should* know I'm town.

Sure feels awfully tentative in here doesn't it?

I believe you're town, since Agent visited you and you didn't die, and I forgot Flubb was visited before you, so you couldn't have been recruited. I think you're the only 100% confirmed town. I think everyone is tentative for the exact reasons you said. It could be our last day if we mislynch again. That's why I was asking about your reasoning, I haven't really seen Dess say anything suspicious and I was wondering if I had missed something.

can't sleep...
whhhyyyy would I breadcrumb being a cultist?! to rub it in your faces afterwards? that's not the type of gamesmanship I like.

Also, that could be seen as working against cult if I was cult, not pro-team play - not cool.

Saying things like "no matter what he says now" is scummy, and has put you at the top of my suspect list. You've decided, no matter what I say or do and how any of that might seem, that I'm your top suspect? That's just narrow-minded and like you're excusing your non-reason for finding me a suspect (scummy.)

can you point out the spots you see as me breadcrumbing, please? or are you pulling such a statement out of your bum to try and push a cult agenda?

so, what we have to do now, is try and get into the mind of flubbucket...

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *runs away crying*
...the horror...the horror...

orrrr, we can just sit here and stare at each other

but really...

I think that in addition to making cases against each other as to why we think someone might be cult, we should be making cases defending why we are not cult, and should feel free to make cases for other people too, if we feel strongly enough about it. I think doing such could prove verrry verry helpful in finding the remaining cultists.

Yes, "cultists." I really don't think there's only 1 remaining at this point. That'd be silly, imo, especially since the tracker got converted. Yes, we don't know which night, but, odds are highly in favor of 2 remaining, not 1. I always try to play worst-case-scenario, I'm sticking with the thought of 2 for now and trying to figure out which 2 of you are cult, with Ix cleared.

...think about these things...

First, flub would never recruit me. For those that don't know, he and I have had some beef in the past and I don't think he'd want me on his team if he could help it. This goes beyond the point of "oh flub wouldn't recruit drealmer/want to work with drealmer on his scum team, so he must have recruited drealmer because no one would suspect that ever!" No. He most probably wouldn't recruit me, and absolutely didn't.

(However, I will say that if I had been CL, he probably would have been my 1st recruit because of that logic. coupled with the fact that we love to let lurkers live and win here on GOG forum mafia and flub is good at that.)

Ix is not tracker, Dess is not tracker, I am not tracker. Either fantasy or cristi had to have been the tracker, and so (*I know*) at least 1 of those 2 is scum.

that's all I have time for atm

Vote: drealmer7

Above my personal ideas, agent was suspicious of him as well. Best seen here, #489, where he was also suspicious of flub and rightly so.

Agent cleared flubbucket on Night 2. Post #564. Day 2 ended with #537.

That means:
flubbucket must have recruited someone N1 - means 1 cultist. If flubbucket recruited someone N2, when agent cleared him and those both actions actually happened (as in, deprogramming did not stop recruiting), means 2 cultists.

I think we should first look for one cultist, and pay more attention as to who changed how from D1 to D2, when the recruitment really must have happened. And that would be drealmer. It was pointed out by agent and a few other players as I recall. I think, that drealmer is our best target for the lynch.

Ixamyakxim was cleared after flubb became powerless, so we do have confirmed town. We do not know who agent targeted tonight, but either he targeted a townie or kamikaze cancelled deprogramming.

I am not a cultist. When I revealed myself to be a vig D1, I did in such a way that I made myself a highly possible target to be deprogrammed. I was not recruited. I think I wasn't chosen because of possible failed recruitment if both DP and CL targeted me at the same night. But in the end, it's just a guess.

Of all of us, 5 players, I only have no problem with Ixamyakxim. And that is only because of the sequence of events (flubb's deprogramming, then lx's deprogramming).

Suspects by priority:
drealmer7: of so many reasons already mentioned and a change of play D1-D2, like agent and someone else said
cristigale: she is always looking like town. Absolutely always. That is the reason why she would be perfect target to be recruited
fantasysci: simply the last unknown player. But fact that she is new, I doubt flubbucket would risk it N1 or N3.

Fantasy votes drealmer in 5 ... 4 ...

I feel like this is a catch-22 for me. I've already stated that you were my top suspect, but you're cleared now. I've voted for Drealmer before, and been the only one on the wagon: https://www.gog.com/forum/general/forum_cult_mafia_41_shodan_awakens/post537 . I've also stated why I'm suspicious of Drealmer, and that I haven't seen anything suspicious from Dess or Cristi. Why would I vote for them when I don't really have any proof or feeling? But if I vote for my suspicion, then this comment sounds like you think Dess and I are in cahoots, either that or I am a follower. If you can give me some indication on something either of them have said that makes them suspects, I would gladly listen and think on it for myself. But I'm not going to follow your feeling blindly.

Ixam, I look at drealmer and I just can't convince myself he is telling the truth. For better or worse, I agree with dessimu.

Vote dreamler

It was meant to be.

I STRONGLY feel you and Dessimu are the two cult. I was *almost* tempted to not make a comment and then point out to any townies on the fence THAT is how quickly a townie goes to L -1 / hammer (rather than Dessimu who just sat there).

But at the end of the day, I didn't want to risk that a townie would come in and hammer.

I'm glad you took the time to say how much you wanted to place that vote, but didn't do it because of how bad it would have looked though.

I didn't say I wouldn't vote for him, I asked if you had any information on the other two. I may still vote for him, but right now I'm just trying to gather information. You're throwing shade without giving me an answer.

Drealmer, you are welcome to answer my question as well.

An interesting thing now is that apart from drealmer, we are all online. Drealmer has two votes. If he is town and fantasy was cult, this would be the best opportunity for cult to win.

That did not happen.

In my eyes, both Ixamyakxim and fantasy are town.

Cristigale jumped on drealmer just for agreeing with me. Drealmer won't vote himself obviously.

Now I think that no matter what alignment drealmer is, cristigale is second/only cultist.

Unvote drealmer7
Vote cristigale

I'm sure you already know this...

But...

DO NOT HAMMER if you're townie!