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Posted June 16, 2015
I'm not sure how they are going to pull it off, but I'm looking forward to seeing the results.
Posted June 16, 2015
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P1na: I don't understand anything of the first paragraph. Judas is a thief, not a priest. I was born in the 80's, I don't remember how insane it was. I don't know what a "rat kid youtuber" is or what a "baby first RPG" means. I kid you not, I really can't make any sense of the whole paragraph.

Second paragraph, I don't know what FP games are. First person? Doesn't quite fit. Either way, of course badly executed anything is bad; I do mean that when playing RPGs I care about the story first and the rest later. A game with no story where you go around "killing shit with your gear" without any motivating storyline, such as dungeon crawlers, diablo clones and MMOs, is not something I enjoy. I know others do, and that is fine.

I actually played a breath of fire... IV, I think. The one on PC. The story was OK, and the mechanics were nice too. I liked that the people not in the active party were still participating in the battle, sometimes healing from behind and recovering MP, and you could switch them anytime. The silent protagonist was really annoying though, and most of the characters were rather forgettable. Is that what a jRPG was in the first place? Not sure. And I don't know what exactly you mean in the last part, but there was quite a bit of story progression onf FF7 I think.
I take you don't know anything about the band or the arcade commercials of the time then, a rat kid youtuber applies to an entertainer that benefits from the fact Pewdiepie with it's kid fanbase by bringing content to that edgy bunch of kids that are apparently most of youtube and baby's first RPG.....means just what it does, most of the people that held that game to that regard was because it was literally their first game.

yeah First Person and that is because you didn't experience what an RPG was without a soap opera, I am gonna take that guess, because you also don't need a convoluted story as well, in RPGs you should expect a story, but when it becomes pretentious? yeah, fuck that.

In fact you can see right in this forum what helds that back and what not many people realize is that the design change became popular BECAUSE of FF7.

You should, it's a pretty good series .Also there was story progression, but they always gave you an stop from there so you could do what you wanted, but it was such a drag to being 5 minutes playing in a castle to then turn to an island just so you could grind your way waiting for it to progress.
Post edited June 16, 2015 by GioVio123
Posted June 16, 2015
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DaCostaBR: Really? Weren't the battles super boring? I got through 90% of the game just mashing confirm to use the basic attack, because that's all you need to win, like with every game with an active-time battle system.
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Elmofongo: I reply to you and yet you reply to someone else :P
I was reading throught the thread thinking I'd write the first post in the last 4 hours, only to find out when the post goes through that someone had beaten me 6 minutes earlier, and replying to my own post on top of that!

I'd like to add that you forgot the terrible RTS sequence that you had to play in order to finish the game.

As stated, I really don't like the battle mechanics in FF7, since I generally don't like active-time battle systems as a whole. So I wonder if they are going with more action oriented combat to echo Advent Children, FFXV seems reminiscent of that already. Fans would go berserk though, I assume.

A nice middle ground would be taking cues from Bravely Default (like I think any JRPG should): a difficulty system I can crank up if I'm bored, regulate the amount of random encounters up to removing them completely, fast-forward option through battle animations and the option to put characters on automatic so you don't need to slog through fights you know you'll win anyway.
Posted June 16, 2015
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Darvond: No, I was saying it had aged terribly, not that I was leaping for joy at the idea of a remake.
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ET3D: You're not a fan, because you haven't played it, but your point is well taken: some gamers want a graphical update for the game to even consider playing it.
Considering most of the fans would have been happy with a PS2 version, upgrading most of the models and graphics to PS2 levels wouldn't have been that hard, the music would have had to be redone, textures upgraded, but that would have made a lot of people happy even now. Far as i can tell people have taken several sources and patched the FF7 game for the PC until it's as close to upgraded as it could be without actually changing the game at all. That's also replacing video sources from other newer games for those same scenes.
Posted June 16, 2015
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P1na: That's exactly how I feel about doom, you know. I've seen games that looked as FF7, but nothing that "quite made the same magic". While I feel Shadow warrior and the like do exactly the same thing doom did.
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darthspudius: I adore Shadow Warrior but it really didn't. Slight difference here is that there were quite a lot of JRPG's before FF7, how many were before Doom? Not many at all and the shooters there was didn't live up to much (exception Wolfenstein).
ROTT > Doom

And i don't really like FPS games. RoTT still managed to catch my attention and was enjoyable enough to keep playing for a few moments at a time.
Posted June 16, 2015
Fantastic. Can't wait for this one to release in 5-10 years. Seriously, though, don't touch the story, its perfect as is (minus fixing grammatical errors, and her name is "Aerith", not "Aeris"). I would personally love if they used Final Fantasy XII's battle system. I absolutely love XII's world, battle system, graphics, playstyle, everything. Favorite game of the series gameplay-wise...too bad the story was so incredibly BORING. Hopefully we can dispense with the random encounters, too.
Posted June 16, 2015
Great news for all those FF7 fanboys and fangirls all there :)
Posted June 16, 2015
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Elmofongo: We got another 12 lover here :D

Welcome to my club :D
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rtcvb32: I enjoyed 12, although perhaps didn't love it. But i loved the simple system for customizing your characters AI's so they actually acted intelligently (most of the time).

I also was referring to SquareEnix's own public statement and requirement that a newer game would have to exceed FF12's sales before they redid FF7.
I just wish they release in HD remaster (not a built from ground up remake mind you) Like they did with 10.
Posted June 16, 2015
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Elmofongo: I just wish they release in HD remaster (not a built from ground up remake mind you) Like they did with 10.
You know... i've seen comparisons of the FFX and FFX HD, and when the resolution was brought up there was improvements in movements for the characters, but the textures and most of the models weren't that hugely different. I also recall on an emulator running FFX-2, and just raising the native/output resolution basically made it HD. So i don't see why FFX needed an upgrade, other than it was on a newer system so they were expected to make improvements...
Posted June 16, 2015
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Elmofongo: I just wish they release in HD remaster (not a built from ground up remake mind you) Like they did with 10.
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rtcvb32: You know... i've seen comparisons of the FFX and FFX HD, and when the resolution was brought up there was improvements in movements for the characters, but the textures and most of the models weren't that hugely different. I also recall on an emulator running FFX-2, and just raising the native/output resolution basically made it HD. So i don't see why FFX needed an upgrade, other than it was on a newer system so they were expected to make improvements...
The character models cerainly received an upgrade.

Tidus and especially Auron look beyone PS2 graphics.
Posted June 16, 2015
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Elmofongo: The character models certainly received an upgrade.

Tidus and especially Auron look beyond PS2 graphics.
Probably. But they were still way ahead of the PS1 3D models used in FF7, where an upgrade is required and wanted, while X and X2... i'm not sure they were needed. Nice to have, but that's up to the player i guess.
Posted June 16, 2015
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rtcvb32: So i don't see why FFX needed an upgrade, other than it was on a newer system so they were expected to make improvements...
Money. The "HD" moniker has basically become a meaningless marketing trick for people who are obsessed with superficial elements.
It costs these companies comparatively little to produce these retreads, so that there's pretty much guaranteed profit based on the popularity of the original game alone. Just look at garbage like Age of Empires 2 HD, which is little more than a high-resolution patch; or Heroes of Might and Magic III HD and The Secret of Monkey Island Special Edition, both of which actually look worse than the original games.

Honestly, I don't even blame the corporations for this anymore, at least not entirely, considering that everytime I see an article or video about an old(er) game, there are always comments along the lines of "an HD remake of this would be great!", immediately. No, fuck that. Let the classics stand on their own and concentrate on making actually decent new games for once. A pale imitation of a great game won't be able to deliver the same experience.
Posted June 16, 2015
Till this day I don't know why FF7 is so popular. Maybe cause it was the first FF on ps1 and lot of people started FF series with this one? FF4 is imo the best of the series. Now imagine a remake of that one T-T
Posted June 16, 2015
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InfraSuperman: I am so fucking sick of remakes.

And I'm absolutely certain that Square-Enix will completely botch this. They've completely forgotten what made their old games so appealing and every attempt to capture that spirit failed miserably.
I'm sure they will infuse this remake with their typical hackneyed bullshit: Excessive, overbearing visuals and fanfiction-level emo misinterpretations of the original characters, like they did with Advent Children.
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dick1982: i thought FF7 IS EMO SHIT?

i kinda want a FF9 remake though.
or a blashempous FF6 remade in real 3D, instead of the pointless CG cutscenes and anti-aliased sprites we got.
No no FF8 was about emo shit. FF7 was about Earthy hippie shit.

I'm betting SE will botch this. The nostalgia is too heavy for fans and I actually like FF7. I don't really see the point.
Posted June 16, 2015
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ScotchMonkey: I'm betting SE will botch this. The nostalgia is too heavy for fans and I actually like FF7. I don't really see the point.
They Changed It, Now It Sucks versus It's The Same, Now It Sucks?

This is another reason why I'd rather see new Final Fantasy ;)
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