WOW, first I learnt this week that ironically Cyberpunk 2077 is the first game I know off to not be 100% DRM free for all single player content (requires gog galaxy for my rewards to get in game single player content) and now bending the knee to communist china.

I hope the great... Xi Jinping is a big GOG fan as you have access to my reciepts and I wont be buying from you for the foreseeable future, depending how you handle this & CP2077 not being totally DRM free.

I don't believe GOG even has Chinese store. You can only sell approved games in China, that's why Steam had to set up different client with limited library to be allowed to exist in China. What Chinese players are using GOG are probably using VPN.

Yes and no. Capitalism is pursuing profits. This last week has seen CDPR do a lot of things that go against pursuing profits. They might make money in the short term, but they will lose long term. At a time when their is a lot of ill will due to the buggy 2077 launch, now is not the time to further discredit themselves. That being said, I'm all for them choosing not to offer the game in China. If the laws there say you can't sell this game in China, that is up to the people of China to change. What I am not okay with is them not selling it to anyone because China says no.

Perhaps you'd be happier living in China then?

Not selling the game in China makes sense. If chinese are upset about it then it makes sense to not do it. Just like it's hard to sell games with Nazi flags in Germany.

But that doesn't mean China gets to dictate what I get and not get to play in my own country on a different continent over something as absurd as someone's hurt ego.

Always. lol
China gave the world the Chinese Flu pandemic. Capitalism is giving us a vaccine in record time.
The Chinese people rape, mutilate and murder minorities in a fashion last performed by Hitler and the National Socialist party.

Or, to quote Dara Ó Briain, "China has two words for Tibet, and it's China. So F*** them".

Either way.
GOG. Give us Devotion. Or don't expect any from us as your customers.

Who are all interlinked within the CCP, hmm, funny, I'm sure there's some honest Joe (not Biden), Qiáo who is working in a rice field totally loaded, he's just breaking his back for the giggles, I'm sure.

I never heard about this game, but delisting it before it was released is a bad move. Probably GOG wanted to release the game, but someone high up in the company blocked this to avoid controversy in China. Or maybe they were spammed by army of bots. GOG of course has full rights to add and remove games from his catalogue as he wants, but the example of Devotion is quite disturbing. It simply seems bad that the game is removed due to political issues.

You know. Surely GOG knows what their demographics are like and where the customer base is. I sincerely doubt customer from China makes up even a tiny portion of the customers. This is a weakass move and really no pro customer friendly. Lets all hit the high seas and look for this game. Got me curious now
Why does Tencents have any influence over the release of this game?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tencent#Video_games

You might be surprised by the numbers. I think this is the real reason for what we're seeing.
https://twitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/1337442173424459782

Capitalism walk across millions of corpsed too, without ever blinking an eye. 2000 children starving every day, that could easily be saved, but it's not profitable, so it's not a problem? Destroy the planet out of greed (which has cost millions and will cost billions of lives, in a few decades), not a problem?

Also, China doesn't have anything resembling "communism" as a form of rule or economy, it's a form of state capitalism and a bureaucratic dictatorship.

Real communism is absolutely democratic, because there is no central power (which is determined by ownership of stuff, which equals power). And that's why it doesn't work on larger scales, only in small, well... communities (where the term comes from).

I absolutely think that Devotion should be released here. This place is (or used to be) about DRM-free, so ultimately about freedom (from the schemes of Western capitalist greed no less). And I don't get why the Chinese are so upset about comparing their "leader" to Winnie (jokes about mothers are not ok though, IMO), the original pre-Disney Winnie was pretty wise...

But bashing China and the Chinese people won't help with that in any way.

I believe that's what's called being "more equal" than others.

And what has happened here is a State actor meddling in the free market. That is the opposite of Capitalism.

The government of China is communism with weaponized capitalism that merely profits its top government officials who also run the major corporations out of China. Their goal has always been to subvert Western powers and capitalism is the way to the heart of the West. It's certainly been effective. Barely anyone bats an eye anymore over the giant human rights violations communism commits on a regular basis, with concentration camps, organ harvesting on unwilling "volunteers", disappearance of critics and activists, the untold deaths of thousands to millions throughout history.

However, capitalism is all about the independent person being able to start a business and make it in life, whether they remain comfortable living off of a small amount of business, or push to become a major player by fulfilling important niches that bring consumers in. Anyone who ever trades in anything is working through capitalism.

Using the GOG service to buy games is partaking of capitalism, as they fulfill a niche service, providing DRM-free games people enjoy, old and new, with good customer support.

The point, however, is GOG is NOT providing good customer support by supporting a tyrannical communist government's attempts to hide media that, in its own mind or otherwise, undermines its appearance as the most powerful and rightful government in the universe.

And that is the focus of everyone's displeasure here. Capitalism works if GOG users use their consumer powers to influence GOG's behavior over this issue. The problem is if they continue to believe that it's "gamers", that is CCP-sponsored internet agitators, that are supporting this attempt at censorship.

I love GOG's services, but this is wrong. If the game does well or not, that's up to the power of capitalism to decide through each potential consumer, not because of a dictatorship that hates criticism in the least.

Amen. I have been saying this since the dawn of times but nobody ever listens. :P


I any case, this is the famous straw that breaks the camel's back. CDProjekt in general has been spiraling downward faster than light, this last act was just vile.
First they announce they'll give space to unjustly marginalized devs (a stupid joke about China's current ruler isn't a big deal, and if God Emperor Xi can't take any kind of humor he should visit a psychiatrist for self esteem issues), then they just bend over because they could maybe lose a couple of Chinese sales.

And to think this place used to have principles; no restrictions by region, equal treatment, blah blah...
Just corporate bs now. I'm most definitely reducing my spending.