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Lingxin: The initial post and title has sparked my curiousity. But it feels rather meaningless if there is no actual official statement from GOG to the claims made.

Are there at least some people here who complained and asked the support team of GOG what is the idea of causing the issue?
Yes, the reply was the standard noncommital:

"We recieved your ticket and we have forwarded it to the correct department."

In other words, support doesn't think there is anything they can do about the issue. They don't even acknowledge that there is an issue.

Chandra just said that they will investigate the issue, but that it may take weeks. https://www.gog.com/forum/general/release_hitman_game_of_the_year_edition_11093/post728

Weeks to find out that a game, which they advertise as DRM-free on the game page, is not actually DRM-free!
In my opinion the best course of action is definitely the one suggested by Mori_Yuki.

Until then a noncommital reply means little to nothing and needs more pressure which is most likely legit.

Customers have the right to claim a refund if the situation about the game is as bad as described. Also customers can and will see the feedback among the reviews about the issue. Nowadays customers have lots of rights which they can and should excercise.

However, it should be fair towards those not responsible for the issue as well. And that is where I think: yeah, GOG should reconsider providing the game, but mostly to blame is the publisher most likely, since I cannot see a developer having any need for an always online connection with a client.
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Mori_Yuki: This is why I think arbitration by Ombudsman or consumer legal rights groups is the best thing to do in this case. Maybe GOG will have a change of heart or maybe they are asked or ordered to decouple all games from their client, so we finally get to enjoy the full content, items and whatever else we paid for. The best possible outcome and in a sense something both GOG and we are going to benefit from.
Honestly if you purchased Hitman, was disappointed because it's not what was advertised, asked for a refund and Gog refused you the refund, then yes here contacting a customer rights could help... at least to get your refund.

But in the current case it is very unlikely it will go anywhere. Especially as there is a 30 day refund, no question asked, policy.
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Mori_Yuki: This is why I think arbitration by Ombudsman or consumer legal rights groups is the best thing to do in this case. Maybe GOG will have a change of heart or maybe they are asked or ordered to decouple all games from their client, so we finally get to enjoy the full content, items and whatever else we paid for. The best possible outcome and in a sense something both GOG and we are going to benefit from.
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Gersen: Honestly if you purchased Hitman, was disappointed because it's not what was advertised, asked for a refund and Gog refused you the refund, then yes here contacting a customer rights could help... at least to get your refund.

But in the current case it is very unlikely it will go anywhere. Especially as there is a 30 day refund, no question asked, policy.
If it was just about refunding then, yes, but there is more to it than that. As I have written, this is about locked/gated content, which not only applies to Hitman but a majority of games in GOG's catalogue. I do think that this is something consumer rights groups can step in and do something about. GOG is a shop, they advertise and sell their games a) DRM-free, b) They offer offline installers, c) We can't enjoy the full content unless we use their client. Same difference only that in this case there's no need for a client which would only have added insult to injury. And as I said I will try because it doesn't cost anything and the worst they can say is that indeed they can't do anything for us.
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Swissy88: Wow, thank you for this contribution, obviously the OP is incapable of having doubt or any critical thinking and needs you to chime in that it might not happen.
I was sincere when I said good luck. If it could happen, I'd like to see it.
Hey, people have sued for crazier stuff. If you have the money, go ahead.
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Mori_Yuki: If it was just about refunding then, yes, but there is more to it than that. As I have written, this is about locked/gated content, which not only applies to Hitman but a majority of games in GOG's catalogue. I do think that this is something consumer rights groups can step in and do something about. GOG is a shop, they advertise and sell their games a) DRM-free, b) They offer offline installers, c) We can't enjoy the full content unless we use their client. Same difference only that in this case there's no need for a client which would only have added insult to injury. And as I said I will try because it doesn't cost anything and the worst they can say is that indeed they can't do anything for us.
First I would say good luck finding anybody in a customer group that has any clue what DRM mean and even then there is a difference between the "technical" definition of DRM and what peoples calls DRM. Having a game that requires you to connect online because the multiplayer server are hosted online is not technically DRM, in the same way that a MMORPG is technically not using DRM either.

So managing to prove that they lied on the DRM-free promise would be very hard, unless you live in a country where there is a very clear legal definition of what DRM and DRM-free means and that Gog violate that definition. You can try, as you said it doesn't cost much, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
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Lingxin: The initial post and title has sparked my curiousity. But it feels rather meaningless if there is no actual official statement from GOG to the claims made.

Are there at least some people here who complained and asked the support team of GOG what is the idea of causing the issue?

Otherwise it sounds more like an issue with the publisher than with GOG, having provided software which comes without DRM just to work properly with internet connection.

It reminds me of all those freemium games on mobile app stores where you get one episode free but the rest needs to be bought. The app is indeed free, no doubt with that statement in that constellation. But it does not sit right with the expectations.

So who actually submitted complaints towards the support team and got official replies which can be discussed or even brought to a broader audience?

If GOG is really about screwing their customers with underhanded methods, I am sure they will lose validity as a gaming platform as often stated in other occassions. But you must not make false claims unless it is clear who is responsible for the issue. Same questions when you wonder if a game is broken because of the developers, the publishers, or the provider.
Do you seriously believe they didn't consider this backlash when accepting to publish a game with always online DRM for single-player progression in a this website?

Any reaction other than balls to the wall outrage is going to send them the message that it's OK to sell games where only a slice of the single-player game is DRM-free while the bulk of the experience is behind DRM.

If there isn't a huge push back right now, other devs and publishers will want to keep some form of DRM in their GOG releases.
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samuraigaiden: Do you seriously believe they didn't consider this backlash when accepting to publish a game with always online DRM for single-player progression in a this website?

Any reaction other than balls to the wall outrage is going to send them the message that it's OK to sell games where only a slice of the single-player game is DRM-free while the bulk of the experience is behind DRM.

If there isn't a huge push back right now, other devs and publishers will want to keep some form of DRM in their GOG releases.
I do not believe they look that closely on every game which gets published nowadays on their platform. It is more like having a form filled and bound the publisher by contract that their application for having the game sold on the platform is made correctly with no faults.

Any reaction which is not reasonable would only harm the gamer community in general. Outrages are what they are, outrages. Mostly inacceptable, making people rather to ignore you instead of taking you serious.

It is better to put a lever towards actual sensitive points of those who are allegedly responsible. Which is their money. Asking for a legitimate refund harms those who are originally responsible. The publisher of the game, in my opinion.

And if it is a legit reason to make actually good claims against GOG in regards of their promise about DRM, it is especially unwise to make calls in form of rage.

Better: collect evidence, bring it to a bigger audience. If the loss value of transactions refunds is not bad enough, a press article about GOG being actually at fault will definitely be more hurtful than a pseudo law suit call by laymen who are not familiar with legal terms of law.
Many developers and publishers do not like selling their games without DRM and only reluctantly put their games on GOG after their "cycle" on Steam and elsewhere is done. If Hitman in it's current state is acceptable, many other companies will want to do the same thing. And ultimately it will be the end of GOG because once games there have the same DRM as Steam there is no point.
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nightcraw1er.488: Nope, that’s not going to work. Far too much effort and money required and probably won’t get any result. If you are unhappy, stop buying from here. That will very quickly send a clear message when revenue streams dry up, and is the only way to effect change.
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samuraigaiden: No it's not. Every time people say 'vote with your wallet' you know it's a lost cause. I'm not giving up that easily on GOG.

I will make their life miserable just as much as they are making mine by abandoning their core principles.
I hate to say it, but they are not miserable, nor will they be. They will still make money. And money is the only purpose to commerce.
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samuraigaiden: No it's not. Every time people say 'vote with your wallet' you know it's a lost cause. I'm not giving up that easily on GOG.

I will make their life miserable just as much as they are making mine by abandoning their core principles.
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nightcraw1er.488: I hate to say it, but they are not miserable, nor will they be. They will still make money. And money is the only purpose to commerce.
You are being a corporate shill and literally asking others to "just consume product and then get excited for next products".

Unless you are getting paid to do astroturfing, I don't understand why you are even replying since you have nothing to add to the conversation.

If you are astroturfing, I understand. I'm not against people making a living.
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Johnathanamz: Look at Tim Sweeney he won hist Apple vs. Epic lawsuit only thing was Apple blacklisted Fortnite from all Apple devices for five years and that is it, but the judge agreed with most of Tim Sweeny's things.
Um. Out of the 10 counts in the lawsuit, the judge sided with Apple on *9* of them, Epic had to pay Apple $6 million, and their Fortnite developer account is still banned with no end in sight. No idea on what planet you consider that a "win," and Tim Sweeney certainly doesn't think so given that Epic is appealing the ruling. You don't usually appeal rulings that you've won, in case that wasn't obvious.

Anyway, while "hit them with a lawsuit" is an understandable reaction, I'm not sure it would get anywhere. As mentioned, technically the game can be played offline, to some extent. Plus GOG already commonly has single-player stuff locked behind online DRM, specifically Galaxy achievements, and you can even find certain community members actively pushing for that (apparently unaware of the irony of what they're doing). I agree that in its current state Hitman seems inappropriate for GOG and should never have been allowed, but I don't know if it would be possible to make a legal case for that.
Maybe the money shows differently but I can't tell you how many times I have seen an interesting game on here and I scroll down to see what the reviews are and there aren't any. From my personal experience on this store I assume that the number of users is tiny compared to steam. I also assume that the main users are loyal to gog for a very specific reason. I just don't get what pissing off your core accomplishes for them.

People aren't swinging over from steam to pick up Hitman gog and certainly the pathetic amount of sales Hitman garners isn't worth the loss in loyalty and trust from your already small userbase. It's just baffling to me. With the loss of your main reason to shop here, it's not going to bring more people in, it's just going to signal that steam is where you should buy your games, no reason to wait on a gog release because gog releases aren't drm free guaranteed anymore.
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Mori_Yuki: I don't think there is going to be a class action but there is another way. For customers inside the EU and U.K., they could turn to the Internet Ombudsman, where I do see chance that GOG could be held liable for false advertisement or misleading advertisement.

Technically speaking and relative to Hitman, it isn't even a lie: DRM FREE. No activation or online connection required to play. You are able to play the whole game offline and you are able to finish it.

That you aren't going to enjoy it very much, because the important parts are locked and you'd need to have an IOI account and active online connection at all times in order to unlock items, weapons, starting points - the major part of it basically, is what's important.

Pretty much the same as locking multiplayer and single player online content, necessitating GOG customers to install and use a client to be able to enjoy all content they paid for. This is the same thing because GOG is selling games and their client should be optional at all times not mandated. Offline installers are available and there's no need for Galaxy for both offline or online gaming or accessing certain content.

I mention this because if GOG customers were to turn to their countries Ombudsman maybe this can also be taken care of. This would be a major step in the right direction, which otherwise will not happen, because GOG management has other ideas: Forcing Galaxy 2.0, selling games with gated content, an item only available via Galaxy, everything GOG should not stand for.

Who knows what's going to come of it? Contacting your Ombudsman doesn't cost anything as opposed to maybe a lawsuit. It can't get any worse that it already is so it's worth a try.
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Shouldn´t DRM Free means that the product doesn´t have DRM at all? I mean, this Hitman has some DRM in it. And therefore, it is not DRM Free. Shouldn´t it be a a binary thing? Either it has DRM or it doesn´t have it. There is no in between.
Post edited September 24, 2021 by arrua