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Posted April 04, 2019
Ok just to prove my point why O thought Safiros is zfr:
http://www.asvanyboltkeszthely.hu/asvanybolt/75/zafir.htm?fajta=

My mothertongue is hungarian so I made the connection quickly in my brain and then just blurted out the quote from joe. I haven't really realized that joe's name is also Sapphire until it was late.
Posted April 04, 2019
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ZFR: Yes, you're right that there are many methods on preventing NK. Do note though that some of the roles you mentioned are unusual or even exotic (e.g. I don't think I've ever come across a Naive Night-killer), but then again Joe is not above including them.

Hence the questions to trent on why he focused on a blocker, and to scene on why he focused on a doctor.

By the way however, trying to fish out roles is generally not beneficial to town. So... be careful that you don't do it.
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Microfishd:
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JoeSapphire: Fran67 is Eliminated. She was Elestrine DuBaille, (Naive) Tyrannosaur, Team Heroes.
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Microfishd: Also maybe of note, we already had a naive modifier; I do not know if Joe is in the habit of applying the same modifier to multiple people, or if he uses a randomizer to decide who gets what. Not knowing one way or another, we must assume that he might have done so.
Naive tyrannosaurus = funny way of saying vanilla.
Posted April 04, 2019
Browsing the rest:
@scene, since Safiros isn't zfr as I assumed, my theory is moot. It was a strange connection with the hungarian zafir that somehow made me think that.
@HSL: i'm pretty sure scum wouldn't target their own. So even though I have no idea who the target was, I'm sure they were town. Though as I said my initial assumption is completely wrong. I was so focused to find a connection in Joe's text with the current players that I jumped immediately on the first thing that came into my mind.
Posted April 04, 2019
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PookaMustard: If I were scum...
You keep using that phrase...

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PookaMustard: That is the thing. I don't think the mod would happily announce that a serial killer exists. So my mode of operation is more or less, "assume there is a serial killer unless there is sufficient reason to assume there isn't." Right now, that no night-kill is favorable towards revoking that thought; as they have their own night kill, and I imagine using that power early on would reveal that there is one. We'll probably figure it out for real once we're at the end of the game.
And yet you considered it until just recently. I'm sorry I'm getting stuck on that, it's just that I have been burned (literally) buch such things before. There was a game where a TOWN Arsonist (a serial killer for all intents and purposes) was given a sidekick who's personal winning goal was to keep them alive until the end while the SK was compulsively killing each night. So, sometimes certain people are told about such things and that knowledge can be a heavy burden.


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Microfishd: The Zephyr is a famous (now-defunct) train. :-D
Still not a rock :P
Anyway, blotunga already made his point which is reasonable to some extent.


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Microfishd: The point being, it didn't need to be a doc who stopped the night kill--the mafia-member might not have been able to work, or a role or qualifier -- belonging to them or to the intended victim -- stopped the attempt.
This is very correct and I don't know why people are still trying to figure out what roles are in the game.


@SirPrimalform, what do you make of Today so far?
Posted April 04, 2019
Votes Blotunga Unvotes HypersomniacLive. There's only 2 ways Blotunga could be sure of the night kill target. He's either Mafia or Doctor. If he's not mafia he's outed himself to Mafia now anyway so he may aswell reveal his role.

@Hypersomniaclive - doctor was the first role that came to mind, you're right it could be a roleblocker and that's probably more likely unless Blotunga is the doctor who protected ZFR.

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supplementscene: So I was right about you Blotunga? You're Mafia? Or Doctor? That's the only 2 ways you could know the identity of the potential victim. Joe didn't mention ZFR unless I seriously missed something
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ZFR: I have a question. I'm assuming you haven't read blotunga's zephyr/safiros explanation when you wrote this but...

Did you seriously assume blotunga would out himself like this if he were scum? Like... seriously?
Yes I'm pretty sure he's made a slip. That explanation doesn't wash.
Posted April 04, 2019
Even though t will just make others say I jump the train I am against him too because he just came out of nowwhere saying Zephyr whas going to be killed. The only description from the Admiral I see is that we eleven are not the only one on the ship and his explaining about his misthought does not sound true for me.
VOTE Inkblot
Posted April 04, 2019
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supplementscene: There's only 2 ways Blotunga could be sure of the night kill target. He's either Mafia or Doctor. If he's not mafia he's outed himself to Mafia now anyway so he may aswell reveal his role.
Huh?
Posted April 04, 2019
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supplementscene: Votes Blotunga Unvotes HypersomniacLive. There's only 2 ways Blotunga could be sure of the night kill target. He's either Mafia or Doctor. If he's not mafia he's outed himself to Mafia now anyway so he may aswell reveal his role.

@Hypersomniaclive - doctor was the first role that came to mind, you're right it could be a roleblocker and that's probably more likely unless Blotunga is the doctor who protected ZFR.

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ZFR: I have a question. I'm assuming you haven't read blotunga's zephyr/safiros explanation when you wrote this but...

Did you seriously assume blotunga would out himself like this if he were scum? Like... seriously?
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supplementscene: Yes I'm pretty sure he's made a slip. That explanation doesn't wash.
Seriously? I've already explained that it was a theory based on false assumptions and how I came to them.
I have no idea what happened during the night. Someone probably protected someone, or scum decided to confuse us...
Posted April 04, 2019
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Korotan: Even though t will just make others say I jump the train I am against him too because he just came out of nowwhere saying Zephyr whas going to be killed. The only description from the Admiral I see is that we eleven are not the only one on the ship and his explaining about his misthought does not sound true for me.
VOTE Inkblot
Come on, I even quoted the part where I thought he was refering to ZFR. Why are you so eager to jump on the lynchwagon?
Posted April 04, 2019
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Korotan: Even though t will just make others say I jump the train I am against him too because he just came out of nowwhere saying Zephyr whas going to be killed. The only description from the Admiral I see is that we eleven are not the only one on the ship and his explaining about his misthought does not sound true for me.
VOTE Inkblot
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blotunga: Come on, I even quoted the part where I thought he was refering to ZFR. Why are you so eager to jump on the lynchwagon?
Because it sadly just look like it. I came to the same conclusion after reading after standing up the last three sites since it is action phase again. Sadly Supplement had then already voted.
Posted April 04, 2019
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Korotan: I came to the same conclusion after reading after standing up the last three sites since it is action phase again. Sadly Supplement had then already voted.
I'm sorry, I hope this doesn't offend you but I have a very hard time understanding what you are saying here.

Why are you saddened by scene voting if you are voting the same person?
Posted April 04, 2019
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blotunga: Ok just to prove my point why O thought Safiros is zfr:
http://www.asvanyboltkeszthely.hu/asvanybolt/75/zafir.htm?fajta=

My mothertongue is hungarian so I made the connection quickly in my brain and then just blurted out the quote from joe. I haven't really realized that joe's name is also Sapphire until it was late.
As I don't see why anyone would say that you knew who the intended NK was as it would be them saying they were scum and your reason for doing so is legit I'll say I believe you and move on. Tell me though, what is your opinion on SirPrimalform, ZFR, and Scene so far this game?

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Korotan: I came to the same conclusion after reading after standing up the last three sites since it is action phase again. Sadly Supplement had then already voted.
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dedoporno: I'm sorry, I hope this doesn't offend you but I have a very hard time understanding what you are saying here.

Why are you saddened by scene voting if you are voting the same person?
I could be wrong but I think it's because on Day 1 he was given a hard time for jumping on wagons that were already started without his own reasoning and since Scene voted blotunga first for the same reason he did it could be construed as him doing the same thing again.
Posted April 04, 2019
The air is thick with smoke and vapour. We pan across the floor and walls of the underground alien tunnels - the distant roaring becoming fainter and fainter. Glowing purple lava drips and runs, a stream slows to a trickle and pools into noxious puddles. The camera cuts out to view a large glowing sphere in the centre of the tunnels - a shield of glowing Sapphire energy. After a few seconds it flickers and fades, and Captain Sapphire and the alien beast are revealed within. Captain Sapphire falls to his knees - exhausted from the effort. The beast sneezes comically.

2 - Inkblot (blotunga) -Supplementscene, Korotan,
1 - M. Moutard (PookaMustard) - ZFR,

0 - The Hypersomniac (HypersomniacLive) -
0 - The Supplement (Supplementscene) -
0 - The Canton Calf (Trentonlf) -
0 - Serpent Rime (SirPrimalform) -
0 - Micro Fist (Microfishd) -
0 - ThrashSeal (Lifthrasil) -
0 - DeadProng (Dedoporno) -
0 - Zephyr (ZFR) -
0 - Koro-Koro Tank (Korotan) -

Not Voting - blotunga, Dedoporno, HypersomniacLive, PookaMustard, Lifthrasil, SirPrimalform, Trentonlf, Microfishd,

Blotunga currently holds the most votes at 5 away from majority.

deadline in five daysish
Post edited April 05, 2019 by JoeSapphire
Posted April 04, 2019
On SPF i haven't made up my mind. ZFR didn't reacted in any way to my mistaken identity thing so probably he knows as much as we do at this point.
Scene jumped immediately on my wrong assumption that I would be either Doctor or scum. But if he thinks I were doctor, why would he want to lynch me? So he must genuinely assume me scum. Do I think he's scum because of that? i don't know. I don't think Korotan as scum either so far and he also thinks me scum atm.
Posted April 04, 2019
There's a distinct lack of voting on Day 2

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blotunga: On SPF i haven't made up my mind. ZFR didn't reacted in any way to my mistaken identity thing so probably he knows as much as we do at this point.
Scene jumped immediately on my wrong assumption that I would be either Doctor or scum. But if he thinks I were doctor, why would he want to lynch me? So he must genuinely assume me scum. Do I think he's scum because of that? i don't know. I don't think Korotan as scum either so far and he also thinks me scum atm.
My belief is that you thought you knew the night kill target. You then said you didn't have any night actions. You're claiming you're not the Doctor, so what should I believe?

If that's the case you're either Mafia and lying or genuinely had got the impression you claim to have got. I don't really buy that though so I have to keep my vote on you. This and the fact I read your criticism of ZFR to be disengenous on Day 1.
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