Posted October 11, 2016
WBGhiro
New User
Registered: Dec 2008
From Germany
skeletonbow
Galaxy 3 when?
Registered: Dec 2009
From Canada
Posted October 11, 2016
A lot of these big AAA devs are just sloppy, they'll just brute force build their games with no thought (or understanding) for optimization.
skeletonbow
Galaxy 3 when?
Registered: Dec 2009
From Canada
Posted October 11, 2016
But this is what we get when we ooo and aahh over increased realism in games. "They're lapping it up - make the games bigger!!"
It's the price of progress that I'm at least willing to pay. Doesn't matter what any one of us ultimately thinks is right or wrong or good or bad though, it's the marketplace as a whole that they target and who ultimately decide if it is ok. The best indication that I'm aware of out there as to what we can expect game developers will target on the high end - is Steam hardware survey stats.
As of right now, I own about 5-10 games that my GPU struggles with (including Witcher 3). I can play them all in reduced graphics etc. but not as they were meant to be played. Some newer ones coming out I will have to hold off on, but for my personality etc. I'm totally ok with that. I might sometimes be a bit disappointed to wait, but I know I will get to enjoy them when I decide to upgrade down the line and pay less for the game as a result too, and possibly get the GOTY pack with all DLC thrown in yada yada. :)
My GPU (Radeon HD7850) has been thrown under the bus by new AAA games for a while now. :oP There will need to be a few dozen games or else one or two huge OMG I CANT WAIT games come out before I crack for a new GPU though. On the Internet bandwidth side of things though, total non-issue for me. I have 30Mbps and when I install a game it is usually instantaneous for me, or I go make a drink or something to eat, maybe have a crap or fold laundry or whatever, come back and the game is installed. I'd totally get by just fine even with 10Mbps though too, but I'm probably more patient with waiting for downloads/installation than the average person. 60Mbps is only around $10 more per month if I ever care, and 120+ is another $10 or so. I could afford that, but it's just living-large excess to me, I'm comfy with my sluggish 30Mbps. :) I could NEVER live on dialup or in some remote location with pterodactyls flying around and moose running amuck. Wait, I'm in Canada, scratch the moose comment... um... crocodiles! Yeah, I could never live in remote location with those and crappy Internet. Take away my food before you take away my Internet, that's my motto. :)
HereForTheBeer
Positive Patty
Registered: Oct 2009
From United States
Posted October 11, 2016
And do recall that the 130GB is for 2 games, not one.
http://www.download-time.com/ says a 65GB download at 768kbps would take 202 hours. Haha! 8-and-a-half days.
I don't disagree necessarily, especially since I'm looking to buy a new rig soon. But it does suck hard for those with caps or slow connections.
Post edited October 11, 2016 by HereForTheBeer
skeletonbow
Galaxy 3 when?
Registered: Dec 2009
From Canada
Posted October 11, 2016
http://www.download-time.com/ says a 65GB download at 768kbps would take 202 hours. Haha! 8-and-a-half days.
I don't disagree necessarily, especially since I'm looking to buy a new rig soon. But it does suck hard for those with caps or slow connections.
DaCostaBR
Dayman: Fighter of the Nightman
Registered: Sep 2012
From Brazil
Posted October 11, 2016
And do recall that the 130GB is for 2 games, not one.
Modern Warfare Remastered is 40GB
Infinite Warfare is 90GB
HereForTheBeer
Positive Patty
Registered: Oct 2009
From United States
Posted October 11, 2016
http://www.download-time.com/ says a 65GB download at 768kbps would take 202 hours. Haha! 8-and-a-half days.
I don't disagree necessarily, especially since I'm looking to buy a new rig soon. But it does suck hard for those with caps or slow connections.
Not a big deal - I'm not the target audience for those titles anyway.
skeletonbow
Galaxy 3 when?
Registered: Dec 2009
From Canada
Posted October 11, 2016
Get it downloading and go fishing or shooting deer or harvesting wheat for a while or whatever it is y'all do. :)
Trilarion
New User
Registered: Jul 2010
From Germany
Posted October 12, 2016
Cannot be the code, even if it were shitty code. Not enough programmers in the world for writing a 90 GB long programm. Must be game data, heavily bloated of course.
Talya Mouse
gog n' cogs
Registered: Mar 2013
From United Kingdom
Posted October 12, 2016
I would not be surprised if VALVe soon introduced a throttle or data cap for these huge games, along with a monthly paid subscription for Steam Pro which removes the caps.
Sabin_Stargem
Eldritch Being
Registered: Jun 2009
From Other
Posted October 12, 2016
If anything, Valve would be trying to get an download-exempt status with the ISP companies, while trying to keep GOG and friends from obtaining the same.
Ricky_Bobby
PhD in Awesome
Registered: Jun 2014
From Sweden
Posted October 12, 2016
'What are your thoughts on the increasing install sizes of games?'
On one hand it puts yet another restriction on who can play a modern triple-a game today.
It will not be enough to have a relatively new graphics card, reliable internet access and so on.
On the other hand, triple-a games have always been a luxury item in my eyes, a high-end product.
You pay premium to get photo-realistic graphics, with lots of glitter, particles and shiny stuff.
Triple-a games to me have never really been games that 'everyone can play', whether in terms of affordability or having a strong-enough PC for it.
The few triple-a games I play are on console, predominantly exclusives like The Last of Us and DriveClub. I don't buy enough triple-a games to make space on my PS4 an issue. Once I finish a game I just uninstall it, since I always by them on disc, not as downloads.
On one hand it puts yet another restriction on who can play a modern triple-a game today.
It will not be enough to have a relatively new graphics card, reliable internet access and so on.
On the other hand, triple-a games have always been a luxury item in my eyes, a high-end product.
You pay premium to get photo-realistic graphics, with lots of glitter, particles and shiny stuff.
Triple-a games to me have never really been games that 'everyone can play', whether in terms of affordability or having a strong-enough PC for it.
The few triple-a games I play are on console, predominantly exclusives like The Last of Us and DriveClub. I don't buy enough triple-a games to make space on my PS4 an issue. Once I finish a game I just uninstall it, since I always by them on disc, not as downloads.
Post edited October 12, 2016 by Ricky_Bobby
rampancy
Think Different.
Registered: Sep 2008
From Canada
Posted October 17, 2016
If anything, Valve would be trying to get an download-exempt status with the ISP companies, while trying to keep GOG and friends from obtaining the same.
All the more reason why Net Neutrality needs to be defended.
Post edited October 17, 2016 by rampancy
skeletonbow
Galaxy 3 when?
Registered: Dec 2009
From Canada
Posted October 17, 2016
All the more reason why Net Neutrality needs to be defended.
Net neutrality in general is definitely very important however.
rampancy
Think Different.
Registered: Sep 2008
From Canada
Posted October 17, 2016
Oh sure, but that doesn't mean that ISPs/telecom companies won't seize any opportunity they can find to charge people more money. My experience with Rogers and Bell have taught me that much.