Fenixp: Do feel free to talk your thoughts on a fixed meaning of words with an actual linguist, he's going to laugh as much as I do :-P

Fenixp: No matter how much I search, I can't find any source to confirm that mental issues in homosexuals would, in fact, be caused by people accepting them, so feel free to disclose them. Clearly, the issue is much more complex than a body of your or my knowledge could comprehend - in fact, event scientific world is yet to identify what leads to a 'abnormality' as widespread as 4% of population and what its ramifications actually are. However, going by a golden rule of "Innocent until proven guilty," I'm going to go with accepting homosexuality until a direct link between homosexuality and mental disorder (barring outside influence, of course) is found. As far as I know, my approach is not harming anyone, and thus is the best one to adopt. It's extremely easy to find sources on why and how your approach is harming people. Unless you have materials to prove me otherwise, what I am presenting you with are academically verified facts - take them for what you will.

lumin: No it's not, because gay mammals are not "the usual, average, or typical state or condition. " of sexual orientation among all mammals. The sample size doesn't matter, take a large or small sample, the percentages are still the same.

If there is no "control" to measure "normal" by, normal no longer even has a definition. But then it isn't a valid word at all. You could argue that mass extinction causing astroids hitting Earth is normal because it "occurs" in nature, Big Bangs are "normal" because they "happen" too.

That's not a definition at all. Using no control to measure normal by isn't measuring anything.

The control here is the entire species of human beings. Among that species, over 96% consider themselves hetereosexual. In other words, heterosexual is the "norm" or is "normal" among human beings. Good grief, the junk science and irrationality here is off the charts. Why do I have to even explain this? This is what passes for enlightened thinking in 2016. *facepalm*

Homosexuality and, to an even greater extent, transexuality is not normal among human beings and mammals. Period. I know that hurts some peoples' touchy feely sensibilities, but I am not a respecter of persons, I'm a respecter of principle first and foremost. Nobody, not even Ed Greenwood has a monopoly on truth or right.

That's why, in large part, you see this backlash to this stuff being forced into a game. This trans character is forced, it's unnatural, it's ham-fisted 2016, social left-wing, regressive politicking in Dungeons and Dragons. It. Doesn't. Belong.

lumin: Just admit it, you're now feeling the guilt because you realize that deep down, you and others like you are the ones who cause these people grief, pain and sadness. Lying to others and ones self will only bring sadness. It's called gender dysphoria, read J. Michael Bailey's studies on it.

lumin: According to the study I cited above, 96.6% of people surveyed, identify as heterosexual. That is the norm among human population. Those that identify with another sexual orientation are NOT normal because they deviate from "the usual, average, or typical state or condition. "

lumin: Just admit it, you're now feeling the guilt because you realize that deep down, you and others like you are the ones who cause these people grief, pain and sadness. Lying to others and ones self will only bring sadness. It's called gender dysphoria, read J. Michael Bailey's studies on it.

Stig79: Just felt I should share this. Too funny. This is a quote from Jaheira in BG2. From a conversation where Aerie calls her "nagging". In light of that Amber Scott interview where she claims Jaheira was nothing but a nagging wife.

Well...Jaheira has a reply to that.

https://15254b2dcaab7f5478ab-24461f391e20b7336331d5789078af53.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/baldursgate.vanillaforums.com/editor/0l/8plb6v4loza0.jpg

lumin: Not my notion, the dictionary's notion.

[i]
nor·mal
ˈnôrməl

adjective
1.
conforming to a standard; usual, typical, or expected.

noun
1.
the usual, average, or typical state or condition.

"According to a report published in July by the Centers for Disease Control, 96.6% of adults identified themselves as straight in the 2013 National Health Interview Survey, which, for the first time in its 57-year history included questions about sexual orientation.

The report says 1.6 percent of 34,557 adults surveyed identified as gay or lesbian. Another 0.7 percent identified as bisexual.

Another 1.1 percent either did not answer the question (0.6 percent) or selected “something else” from the list of answers (0.2 percent) or “I don’t know” (0.4 percent)."
http://newstome.blog.ajc.com/2014/08/06/cdc-96-6-percent-of-americans-are-straight/
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Less than 4% of the population identify their sexual orientation as something other than heterosexual. That means that the "normal" sexual orientation in the United States is straight.

People who identify as trans and homosexual are, by the dictionaries definition, abnormal.

[i]ab·nor·mal
abˈnôrməl/
deviating from what is normal or usual.
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My question is where did you kids go to school? Do they not teach this stuff anymore? And yes, anyone who is incapable of understanding what the word normal means, is certainly under a delusion.

retsushi: I think people should get a life and enjoy the game.

And no offense to you, most people from USA are a bit retarted regarding trans, gay and even nudity. After all, the nipplegate scandal at SuperBowl was really joke.

And like I said no offense to any open minded american here, it's just this kind of talk don't happen where I live, people just don't care if somedody is different.

So yes I support Beamdog, I am glad they were able to make an expension to BG. It's there 1st game on their own, and I do hope they make more, getting better at it.

shenhan: For a game about a bunch of social outcast, the amount of hate in this post is astonishing...
You guys must never save Viconia in BG2 before she looks "different"

Stig79: If you look at the Forgotten Realms lore, and the bit about the drow. There are hundreds of reason not to save her. The drow said the surface and slaughter people just for the fun of it. Children and infants included. 99% of the race is pure evil. Hence why your reputation score drops as soon as she joins you.

siddham: What disgusting display of narrow minded bigotry this thread has been
low-life and disgusting