Posted August 18, 2014
Sage103082
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HijacK
One man army
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Posted August 18, 2014
mrkgnao: While the possibility of any of us being a wolf still stands, the possibility of all us being wolves is zero. Under the implied assumption that you are a better detective than any (all?) of us, surely you have some candidates that are more likely to be villagers. Why not cooperate with them?
Who said that a someone who is a villager is necessarily bright and totally not gullible? Implying such an "alliance" not only does not benefit the situation, given the fact we don't want people to start forming teams to go against each other, it is also a sure way to attract unnecessary attention. Picture this situation if you're the seer.Sage103082
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Posted August 18, 2014
Don't we need to work together in order to find the wolves? I thought we need to share opinions and thoughts in order to help, if we all keep our thoughts and opinions to ourselves how would the game progress other then everyone having there suspect and sticking to it. I know that is not coming out how I want it to.
for example. I think 1 is a wolf you think 2 is a wolf. without talking we will always stick to our opinion. If I am wrong and you are right without talking I would never change my vote.
for example. I think 1 is a wolf you think 2 is a wolf. without talking we will always stick to our opinion. If I am wrong and you are right without talking I would never change my vote.
trentonlf
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Posted August 18, 2014
Sage103082: Don't we need to work together in order to find the wolves? I thought we need to share opinions and thoughts in order to help, if we all keep our thoughts and opinions to ourselves how would the game progress other then everyone having there suspect and sticking to it. I know that is not coming out how I want it to.
for example. I think 1 is a wolf you think 2 is a wolf. without talking we will always stick to our opinion. If I am wrong and you are right without talking I would never change my vote.
Agree, but it seems we have hit a point where people are hesitant to say much. Not sure if it is from people thinking they will be read wrong or trying to lay low. But, the only ones who need to lay low are the wolves so I'm unsure why GDW and popperik have not said much recently other than defensive posts.for example. I think 1 is a wolf you think 2 is a wolf. without talking we will always stick to our opinion. If I am wrong and you are right without talking I would never change my vote.
HijacK
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From Romania
Posted August 18, 2014
Sage103082: Don't we need to work together in order to find the wolves? I thought we need to share opinions and thoughts in order to help, if we all keep our thoughts and opinions to ourselves how would the game progress other then everyone having there suspect and sticking to it. I know that is not coming out how I want it to.
for example. I think 1 is a wolf you think 2 is a wolf. without talking we will always stick to our opinion. If I am wrong and you are right without talking I would never change my vote.
There is a huge difference between sharing an opinion, analysis, hypotheses, etc. and co-operating. Co-operation means more than just sharing, otherwise that wouldn't be co-operation anymore, and given the fact mrkgnao suggested co-operating only with those whom you think are not wolves, I'm starting to think what really did he mean with that. It simply doesn't sound like a good idea as a whole and the slight suggestion of it makes me suspicious. Historical example: World War 1 begun because of countries which co-operated with others and had alliances. for example. I think 1 is a wolf you think 2 is a wolf. without talking we will always stick to our opinion. If I am wrong and you are right without talking I would never change my vote.
Do you get my point now? In a situation like this, you don't just go "Yeah, I trust him/her so I'll talk a lot with her and make sure we both get the "right" idea so we can cast a better vote." Politics don't work like that. At least not efficiently.
Ixamyakxim
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Posted August 18, 2014
trentonlf
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Posted August 18, 2014
HijacK: There is a huge difference between sharing an opinion, analysis, hypotheses, etc. and co-operating. Co-operation means more than just sharing, otherwise that wouldn't be co-operation anymore, and given the fact mrkgnao suggested co-operating only with those whom you think are not wolves, I'm starting to think what really did he mean with that. It simply doesn't sound like a good idea as a whole and the slight suggestion of it makes me suspicious. Historical example: World War 1 begun because of countries which co-operated with others and had alliances.
Do you get my point now? In a situation like this, you don't just go "Yeah, I trust him/her so I'll talk a lot with her and make sure we both get the "right" idea so we can cast a better vote." Politics don't work like that. At least not efficiently.
You are right in that efficient politics don't work that way, but you also can not base an opinion without hearing what others have to say. Just because you talk with someone does not mean you will come to the same conclusion. Do you get my point now? In a situation like this, you don't just go "Yeah, I trust him/her so I'll talk a lot with her and make sure we both get the "right" idea so we can cast a better vote." Politics don't work like that. At least not efficiently.
This game is about deception and trying to find that deception, no other way to do that if people are not talking and sharing their thoughts.
Krypsyn
The Anti-Hippie
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From United States
Posted August 18, 2014
HijacK: Do you get my point now? In a situation like this, you don't just go "Yeah, I trust him/her so I'll talk a lot with her and make sure we both get the "right" idea so we can cast a better vote." Politics don't work like that. At least not efficiently.
As a former Congressional staffer, I can tell you that is almost exactly how US politics works (at least if you drop the word 'trust'). You are correct, though, when you say it is inefficient. ;) I am not sure what you mean by the rest of your post, however. It seems to me that for you cooperation is only people agreeing with you, because as soon as someone questions you, you attack them. Hey, that also seems a lot like politics...
trentonlf
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Posted August 18, 2014
Sage103082: Don't we need to work together in order to find the wolves? I thought we need to share opinions and thoughts in order to help, if we all keep our thoughts and opinions to ourselves how would the game progress other then everyone having there suspect and sticking to it. I know that is not coming out how I want it to.
for example. I think 1 is a wolf you think 2 is a wolf. without talking we will always stick to our opinion. If I am wrong and you are right without talking I would never change my vote.
Who do you believe is a wolf? I know you do not think HijacK is one, so who do you think we should be looking at?for example. I think 1 is a wolf you think 2 is a wolf. without talking we will always stick to our opinion. If I am wrong and you are right without talking I would never change my vote.
HijacK
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From Romania
Posted August 18, 2014
HijacK: Do you get my point now? In a situation like this, you don't just go "Yeah, I trust him/her so I'll talk a lot with her and make sure we both get the "right" idea so we can cast a better vote." Politics don't work like that. At least not efficiently.
Krypsyn: As a former Congressional staffer, I can tell you that is almost exactly how US politics works (at least if you drop the word 'trust'). You are correct, though, when you say it is inefficient. ;) I am not sure what you mean by the rest of your post, however. It seems to me that for you cooperation is only people agreeing with you, because as soon as someone questions you, you attack them. Hey, that also seems a lot like politics...
Sage103082
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Posted August 18, 2014
My opinions and will change with posts and thoughts and re-reads even.
More then likely wolf or I have cause to suspect
popperik - basically stopped posting completely - only posts to throw suspicion off himself
GreenDigitalWolf - Questionable posts and not to much contributing communication (his opinions / thoughts)
I am on the fence and would like more information
mrkgnao - Quiet and not to much other then agreeing.
HijacK - defensive
amok - not enough posts with information. Though funny and entertaining.
More then likely Villager
Krypsyn - Anyone that calls me cute is definitely not a wolf (Just joking) I do not get a wolf vibe. Helpful. Open with thoughts and reasons for them.
RWarehall - same as above I have not read or seen anything to make me think wolf
trentonlf - did have a comment about chasing his tail =) Though I feel he is trying to ask questions and state his opinion and find out more information on everyone. I feel he is trying to play the game and keep it moving but not in a lets all jump on this person kind of way.
More then likely wolf or I have cause to suspect
popperik - basically stopped posting completely - only posts to throw suspicion off himself
GreenDigitalWolf - Questionable posts and not to much contributing communication (his opinions / thoughts)
I am on the fence and would like more information
mrkgnao - Quiet and not to much other then agreeing.
HijacK - defensive
amok - not enough posts with information. Though funny and entertaining.
More then likely Villager
Krypsyn - Anyone that calls me cute is definitely not a wolf (Just joking) I do not get a wolf vibe. Helpful. Open with thoughts and reasons for them.
RWarehall - same as above I have not read or seen anything to make me think wolf
trentonlf - did have a comment about chasing his tail =) Though I feel he is trying to ask questions and state his opinion and find out more information on everyone. I feel he is trying to play the game and keep it moving but not in a lets all jump on this person kind of way.
HijacK
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Sage103082
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Posted August 18, 2014
I knew you would jump on that. That it is my opinion and my opinion only. As it is late I did not go into graphic details on anyone.
Why are you hell bent on everyone voting you to be killed? I do not understand why, do you want out of the game? Once you are killed you are done. If you are a villager we are one less and have less of a chance to out the wolves. If you are a wolf , like someone else said, you are the most suicidal wolf ever.
Why are you hell bent on everyone voting you to be killed? I do not understand why, do you want out of the game? Once you are killed you are done. If you are a villager we are one less and have less of a chance to out the wolves. If you are a wolf , like someone else said, you are the most suicidal wolf ever.
trentonlf
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Posted August 18, 2014
Maybe not the best idea since we need to not have a curse set upon us, but
UNVOTE HIJACK
I voted popperik before when some posts struck me as odd, but changed to HijacK when he started being overly defensive making it look like he was trying to throw us off the mark. I have stated before that I'm not sure HijacK is a wolf, and we really can't afford to kill another villager. So I am changing my vote back to who I feel is a wolf.
VOTE POPPERIK
UNVOTE HIJACK
I voted popperik before when some posts struck me as odd, but changed to HijacK when he started being overly defensive making it look like he was trying to throw us off the mark. I have stated before that I'm not sure HijacK is a wolf, and we really can't afford to kill another villager. So I am changing my vote back to who I feel is a wolf.
VOTE POPPERIK
Krypsyn
The Anti-Hippie
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Posted August 18, 2014
Let me see...
In response to RWarehall in post 254:
Anyway, this isn't really relevant. The main point of my post was to point out that you speak of cooperation, but you seem to be the least cooperative person here. When people ask you a question you merely say "I already said that, go reread my posts", or something similar. Usually, the issues people are questioning you about were unclear, vague, or nonexistent in your previous posts, and that is why people were asking you about it in the first place. Whether this is scummy misdirection or is just anti-town play is up for debate. What I don't think is up for debate is whether or not you have been cooperative, at least by most people's definition of the word.
In response to RWarehall in post 254:
HijacK: Again, I stated a possibility. Your ignorance to saying I posted a fact is saddening. Nonetheless, I am actually happy I get voted because in the end I will be right and you shall stand corrected.
As for amok, you are correct that I can't find anything negative from you directed solely towards him. However, you have consistently implied that you are the only one who is capable of hunting scum. This also implies that everyone, including amok, is incapable of hunting scum. Anyway, this isn't really relevant. The main point of my post was to point out that you speak of cooperation, but you seem to be the least cooperative person here. When people ask you a question you merely say "I already said that, go reread my posts", or something similar. Usually, the issues people are questioning you about were unclear, vague, or nonexistent in your previous posts, and that is why people were asking you about it in the first place. Whether this is scummy misdirection or is just anti-town play is up for debate. What I don't think is up for debate is whether or not you have been cooperative, at least by most people's definition of the word.