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Lin545: that said, I am leaving the forum.
Fables can't give me exact reasons of what I broke and COC is extremely vague, allows to ban anyone for any reason. There can't be any healthy discussion or opinion exchange with rules such as that. I tell this because I am also a moderator .. elsewhere. Farewell.
Farewell, comrade!
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Lin545: that said, I am leaving the forum.
Fables can't give me exact reasons of what I broke and COC is extremely vague, allows to ban anyone for any reason. There can't be any healthy discussion or opinion exchange with rules such as that. I tell this because I am also a moderator .. elsewhere. Farewell.
What did she say to you?
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htown1980: My understanding is that the people of Catalonia could not vote even if the parties negotiated something acceptable to all. Even if all the Spanish government and the Spanish opposition party and the Catalan government all agreed that they could vote,a referendum on part of the country leaving the rest of the country would still be unlawful and unconstitutional (that's the whole idea behind a Constitution - the government or the legislature or the Courts cannot overrule it even if they wanted to).
I wouldn't worry too much about that. Spanish goverment changed their constitution pretty fast when it blocked the economic reforms of the ruling party, so long as they show the same respect to their beloved constitution now as they did back then it won't be an obstacle at all.
Post edited October 03, 2017 by P1na
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Lin545: Fables can't give me exact reasons of what I broke and COC is extremely vague, allows to ban anyone for any reason. There can't be any healthy discussion or opinion exchange with rules such as that. I tell this because I am also a moderator .. elsewhere. Farewell.
It's simple:
Happy CNN watcher = happy GOG. ($_$)
Back in the day we had "Customer is always right", but those good times have passed. Dark dark times are upon us now. -_-
Post edited October 03, 2017 by vsr
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gamesfreak64: ??? i tried to reply but the spinning icon kept on spinning again...
anyway my reply is not processd and i dont have a copy :D so i am surprised this reply got throuhg cause it kept spinning
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timppu: That usually happens if you haven't quoted right, e.g. there are too many either starting or ending quote tags.
so thats why? thank you for the anwser.
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MajicMan: Nonsense?
Is there anything more fundamentally important than Freedom, Independence and Liberty?
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Freedom, Independence and Liberty is never easy, always messy, but never nonsense.
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Lin545: Maslow (warning, he's russian spy!) pyramid answers that.
Thats also why and how slavery prospered for so long in US.




that said, I am leaving the forum.
Fables can't give me exact reasons of what I broke and COC is extremely vague, allows to ban anyone for any reason. There can't be any healthy discussion or opinion exchange with rules such as that. I tell this because I am also a moderator .. elsewhere. Farewell.
I am no Russian. I am very Pro-America and pro Western Civilization.

As for your assertion that slavery prospered in the USA. Typical propaganda, it didn't prosper at all. The United States was founded on July 4, 1776. The Civil War and slavery ended on June 2, 1865. Prior to the war, Thomas Jefferson and his administration outlawed the importation of slaves into the USA in 1808. The USA also passed the Slaved Trade Act in 1800 prohibiting Americans from being involved in the international slave trade at all. Slavery lasted less than 89 years in the USA. It has been more than 152 years without slavery. Most of American history has been a slave-free nation. Less than 5% of all slaves to the "New World" came to the United States of America. More than 95 percent went to Latin America. After slavery ended in the United States of America, black Africans were still selling slaves to each other and Latin American nations - most notably Brazil. Brazil accounted for 40 percent of all African slaves brought to the "New World" and was the last nation in the Western Hemisphere to abolish slavery.

If you want to talk about nations and regions of the world with long histories of slavery - Africa, the Egyptians were doing it more than 7,500 years ago. Africa and black people have a 7,000 year history of slavery. Ethiopia didn't abolish slavery until 1902. Morocco - 1922

Europe. The Roman Empire, the Danes, The Celts, well everybody actually. Slavery that lasted for several thousands of years. And slavery in the American colonies was under British Empire rule, Brazil was under the rule of Portugal.

The Middle East. Thousands of years of slavery. Afghanistan didn't abolish it until 1923, Iraq 1924. Qatar 1952 even though you can still find it in practice in these countries.

Asia. China, India, Japan, etc. all have thousands of years of slavery. The use of "comfort women" as recently as 80 years ago by the Japanese. China officially enacted a law ending slavery in 1909, enacted in 1910 but was still in practice until 1949. Thailand -1912, India still has a caste system and arranged marriages, as does Pakistan and other countries.

North America, South America. The "natives Americans" all had slaves and practiced slavery. The Mayans, Incas and Aztecs all practiced slavery and human sacrifice.

So yeah, slavery is repulsive, but the idea that somehow it is an American concept or that it is the only nation to to ever have slaves and is used as a punching bag by other nations is utter nonsense. It had been a problem from Day 1 in the nation and from the very start, and even prior to ratification of the Constitution, it was being abolished in many of the states. Also, 10 percent of all American slave owners were black and black Americans owned slaves as a larger percentage than white Americans. The USA's history of slavery is a very short period of time and was actually only in practice by a very small group of people and some states ratified the Constitution as slave-free from the very beginning and were never slave states at all as America.

As for Russia, the nation was selling Christians to Muslims for hundreds of years. And turning slaves into serfs changed nothing in reality, just a new name for branding and marketing purposes. And the entire USSR rule was slavery rule.

And if you really want to have a talk about which demographic and civilizations are the least racist and most free Global Slavery Index 2016 may be a place to start.
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Lin545: Fables can't give me exact reasons of what I broke and COC is extremely vague, allows to ban anyone for any reason. There can't be any healthy discussion or opinion exchange with rules such as that. I tell this because I am also a moderator .. elsewhere. Farewell.
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vsr: It's simple:
Happy CNN watcher = happy GOG. ($_$)
Back in the day we had "Customer is always right", but those good times have passed. Dark dark times are upon us now. -_-
CNN watcher ? i know CNN only as a news network , unless there is a gaming division aswell.
If it is news network then CNN is Credulous News Network, seems credulous means something like believing everything without real proof or checking it first something like gullible.

Anyway CNN is not very reliable with political news cause they were wrong very often and they publish what they want to publish and tell it from their point of view, and are not open to different views but that happens all over the world cause MSM in Europe has many broadcasting that are also 'left' and forget to tell the complete story.
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Lin545: Fables can't give me exact reasons of what I broke and COC is extremely vague, allows to ban anyone for any reason. There can't be any healthy discussion or opinion exchange with rules such as that. I tell this because I am also a moderator .. elsewhere. Farewell.
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vsr: It's simple:
Happy CNN watcher = happy GOG. ($_$)
Back in the day we had "Customer is always right", but those good times have passed. Dark dark times are upon us now. -_-
I have been kicked out of this forum THREE SEPARATE TIMES, threatened at least a dozen more with week long and even perm bans if I didn't either change or apologize for posts, and I am the most left wing person in here.

Need I remind you, there is a user in here currently using a neo nazi logo as his avatar, and he has been given the blessing of GOG to do so, while I was told I would be kicked if I continued to pester him about it.

So please, spare us your political bias bullshit.
Post edited October 03, 2017 by tinyE
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htown1980: Do you know why the referendum is illegal? It is illegal because the Spanish Constitution states that Spain cannot be broken up. So under the Spanish Constitution it would never be legal for any part of Spain to leave. Does that seem right that a part of a country cannot, in any circumstances whatsoever, declare independence?
Do you imply that if a law doesn't seem right to you, you have the right to break it? Because then I start pirating games today...
There is always the option to change constitution. You just need the proper majority. If you don't have that, deal with it. It's called democracy for a reason.
The King is talking about peace but the people are hitting frying pans hard. I guess they don't like him much. xD
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vsr: It's simple:
Happy CNN watcher = happy GOG. ($_$)
Back in the day we had "Customer is always right", but those good times have passed. Dark dark times are upon us now. -_-
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tinyE: I have been kicked out of this forum THREE SEPARATE TIMES, threatened at least a dozen more with week long and even perm bans if I didn't either change or apologize for posts, and I am the most left wing person in here.

Need I remind you, there is a user in here currently using a neo nazi logo as his avatar, and he has been given the blessing of GOG to do so, while I was told I would be kicked if I continued to pester him about it.

So please, spare us your political bias bullshit.
Their behavior is exemplary compared to yours, and frankly speaking, you haven't the stature to call *anyone* on their bullshit. And while the fact that you think you do is somewhat comical, mostly it's just sad.
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MajicMan: As for your assertion that slavery prospered in the USA. Typical propaganda, it didn't prosper at all. ...

Asia. China, India, Japan, etc. all have thousands of years of slavery.
To be fair, the USA have only been around for a few hundred years, and most likely would have a very different slavery history, if they were as old as those countries you've listed.

Besides, slavery is very much still a thing in Western civilization, it's just no longer as blatant and obvious as it used to be. Whether it's underpaid workers in our own countries, or cheap imported goods, produced by children in some Chinese or African sweatshops. The rich ( by global standards ) are still exploiting the poor, and the USA are taking advantage of that at least as much as any other Western country. This behavior is a general human problem, and not limited to any specific country.
https://www.elconfidencial.com/espana/cataluna/2017-10-03/huelga-cataluna-referendum-video-rusia-ucrania_1454519/

"You have no fucking idea what the grenade launchers mean against the people, you sons of bitches. Record, record. You have no fucking idea what happened in Russia (he probably meant Ukraine). Soon you will have weapons here, you will see. I wish you one thing - never take (hold) weapons. They will give you weapons, you will see. Because of your fault, you will have war here."

Mad Russian is somewhat right i'm afraid. Things might get nasty pretty fast. -.-
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MajicMan: As for your assertion that slavery prospered in the USA. Typical propaganda, it didn't prosper at all. ...

Asia. China, India, Japan, etc. all have thousands of years of slavery.
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CharlesGrey: To be fair, the USA have only been around for a few hundred years, and most likely would have a very different slavery history, if they were as old as those countries you've listed.

Besides, slavery is very much still a thing in Western civilization, it's just no longer as blatant and obvious as it used to be. Whether it's underpaid workers in our own countries, or cheap imported goods, produced by children in some Chinese or African sweatshops. The rich ( by global standards ) are still exploiting the poor, and the USA are taking advantage of that at least as much as any other Western country. This behavior is a general human problem, and not limited to any specific country.
I also know the USA is a young country, but it abolished slavery well before other contemporary nations and even nations that have been around for centuries.

I agree the rich are exploiting the poor. Which is why the globalists love all the horrible free trade deals. I am very happy the USA pulled out of TPP and is starting to go after NAFTA. The left and globalists call it "Protectionism" when President Trump and people like me want to level the playing field with actual free markets and not manipulated and crony capitalism. Why should we let Nike and Apple use child labour and slave labour to make products at a fraction of the costs and then import them back to the USA tax free and also let them keep all their money overseas? we shouldn't.

I'm also not an Isolationist, I am a Non-Interventionalist,

I don't believe the USA should use its people and resources to involve itself in the affairs of other nations unless they include US affairs (ie. The EU telling the UK they can't negotiate a trade deal with the USA until the EU says it's OK - no the USA and UK can negotiate their own treaties and trade deals without EU input).

I believe we should do business with Europe, Latin America and Japan and not isolate ourselves, but we shouldn't be telling the people of the UK how to vote on Brexit. We shoudln't get involved in what is happening in Spain right now at all. It is up to the people of Spain to decide how to handle this situation. I will be pissed if President Trump makes a comment on what people across Spain should do. I believe we should defend our allies, but I think it is stupid we waste trillions on foreign nations and people who hate us and put people on the ground to solve their civil wars - it never works.
Just inform yourselves about how separatism claims Spain oppresses them, and how they act themselves. How this vote this past Sunday got approved. How they think an independent Cataluña would fare.
Post edited October 04, 2017 by Nerevar.220