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GamezRanker: Are you saying you think that bit above is me saying I rolled the same role twice? If so, i'd like to state that it wasn't....I stated that much much earlie....err, nothing. o.0 ;D


Even turning you into a superhero??? ;D
no, the 3 people were me (first I knew of), ZFR, Yog, and then Catte.
Yes, I have the being superscratched power, and the super-patience power. It can also open software i didn't know I even had, pause/play media, switch tabs and so on. It took me ages to make this post because of cat going wild at night. I hope nothing goes wrong because the post has been trying to upload for minutes.
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ZFR: Any claims of same role made after I posted 232 mean nothing to me. Not yours, not catte's
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GamezRanker: Same question I asked Catte above: out of curiosity, what about any made before?
Which one? I only saw yog's.
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Dogmaus: can you stop being oversensitive
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ZFR: For the last time, I'm asking you please stop with the personal attacks.
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Dogmaus: So you will vote for me even if I am town? Answer that.
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ZFR: I can't know if youre Town or not. You got an Innocent qualifier? I won't vote if you do.
questions are not personal attacks. As for you, keep making all the personal attacks you want.

" I can't know if youre Town or not."
so why you want to have me lynched?
Why me saying that I have that qualifier would be more believable than me saying that I have been rerolled town with the same role twice?
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ZFR: For the last time, I'm asking you please stop with the personal attacks.

I can't know if youre Town or not. You got an Innocent qualifier? I won't vote if you do.
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Dogmaus: questions are not personal attacks. As for you, keep making all the personal attacks you want.

" I can't know if youre Town or not."
so why you want to have me lynched?
Why me saying that I have that qualifier would be more believable than me saying that I have been rerolled town with the same role twice?
I never equated questions to personal attacks and it's not your questions I object to. I quoted the relevant part.

I want you lynched because youre acting scummy (antitown).

Read about what Innocent means. It's the only way I can guarantee youre Town. If you dont have it, then barring a confirmed Cop investigation or similar, I cant know youre Town.
as an aside

Forum Mafia is a game of accusations and denials, of lies and the liars who tell them

As such, it is easy to let passions get high, and people can really start to get upset

Good advice is to make it a note to not let things be personal... make a conscious decision to dial back the aggression when you're upset, treat other people with respect, take a couple minutes before responding if you need to

we've all been there, we've all popped off

just try not to get riled

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I'm waiting for a couple people to participate more and a few things I want to see before I place a vote
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ZFR: I want you lynched because youre acting scummy (antitown).
How am I acting scummy or antitown?
I have disliked Lift talking about old roles (after himself had botched the previous game) because I had been rerolled the same role and saw it as a bad subject for Town.
Then I saw you as scummy because you made a fake vote post and ten you voted for me changing my name, so it was unclear if it was serious or just making chaos to distract people.
Despite that I have unvoted because these things have been explained.
If someone has had a chaotic and antitown beheaviour it's only you and Lift.


"Read about what Innocent means. It's the only way I can guarantee youre Town. If you dont have it, then barring a confirmed Cop investigation or similar, I cant know youre Town."
I have read what it means. Even if I say it, how can you check that now? Why don't you ask Yog or anyoe else if they have Innocent? Why are you so obsessed with lynching me if it's not a scum strategy while you already know I'm town?
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Dogmaus: "Read about what Innocent means. It's the only way I can guarantee youre Town. If you dont have it, then barring a confirmed Cop investigation or similar, I cant know youre Town."
I have read what it means. Even if I say it, how can you check that now? Why don't you ask Yog or anyoe else if they have Innocent? Why are you so obsessed with lynching me if it's not a scum strategy while you already know I'm town?
Innocent is mod confirmed. I dont need to check it and I dont need to ask yogs or anyone else if they have it.

For the nth time: I do *not* know youre Town. In fact I think youre scummy. Hence voting you.
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Dogmaus: "Read about what Innocent means. It's the only way I can guarantee youre Town. If you dont have it, then barring a confirmed Cop investigation or similar, I cant know youre Town."
I have read what it means. Even if I say it, how can you check that now? Why don't you ask Yog or anyoe else if they have Innocent? Why are you so obsessed with lynching me if it's not a scum strategy while you already know I'm town?
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ZFR: Innocent is mod confirmed. I dont need to check it and I dont need to ask yogs or anyone else if they have it.

For the nth time: I do *not* know youre Town. In fact I think youre scummy. Hence voting you.
so basically I'm scummy because you have decided so.
In a way now I really hope you are in fact scum.
No, I don't have Innocent.
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Dogmaus: so basically I'm scummy because you have decided so.
No, you're scummy because you act scummy. I've explained my reasons multiple time and am not going over all that again.

But everyone is free to make their own decisions. Find out who's scummy and vote for them
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Dogmaus: No, I don't have Innocent.
Of course, I know that already. As I said it's mod confirmed.
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Dogmaus: so basically I'm scummy because you have decided so.
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ZFR: No, you're scummy because you act scummy. I've explained my reasons multiple time and am not going over all that again.

But everyone is free to make their own decisions. Find out who's scummy and vote for them
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Dogmaus: No, I don't have Innocent.
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ZFR: Of course, I know that already. As I said it's mod confirmed.
So why would you ask? This is utter non-sense.

Vote ZFR
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" I've explained my reasons multiple time and am not going over all that again."
No, you haven't explained anything. All you have done is repeat the same things over and over about an old post, even after that matter had been cleared. And made personal attacks and jokes instead of answering any question.
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ZFR: Which one? I only saw yog's.
Check the link in Post 48.
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yogsloth: as an aside

Forum Mafia is a game of accusations and denials, of lies and the liars who tell them

As such, it is easy to let passions get high, and people can really start to get upset

Good advice is to make it a note to not let things be personal...
Tru dat.....this be good advice right here.

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To all

Going to bed for a bit....will check more later when I get up. Atm the Dogmaus/ZFR stuff seems hard to make much sense of and untangle, so I might hold off on voting either of them for D1 at the very least.
I be back and I see not a lot changed in the central conflict. And more people came clean about having the same role as they did before. I don't know, but aren't we like telling scum "here's the model answer to fly under the radar of Townies? Say your PR role is the same as the one pre-game"?

Anywho, at this point in time, my reading of the ZFR v. dogmaus court case is as thus: Town Violence.

Is it possible ZFR is taking us around for a ride? Yes. Is it possible dogmaus's defense has been carefully constructed by a more experienced scumbuddy? Why not? But I don't see it in there. I don't see the scum in either of them clinging to this one battleground on Day 1. Nothing easier than for either side to walk out of it at the moment. But they didn't and don't want to.

Unless I find definitive scum alarms in either of them, I'm not going to vote them this Day (unless you guys are willing to nolynch again and they're my only best bets to achieve the lynch).

I don't find much wrong with the others. Which is pretty bad because that's where I am expecting to find our scums. Somewhere along the lines of those:

catte - Tends to be quiet in the beginning but becomes powerful for his side late-game
yogsloth - The ISOs look good and are a decent effort to summarize each player in a nutshell, but not really alignment indicative
bookwyrm - I'm not sure if he's like catte or not, but he's been obviously quiet today, could change later
gamezranker - Same old, nothing he said so far sticks with me as out of the ordinary
microfish - Not the kind of player I'd expect game-breaking posts from on Day 1
lifthrasil - He might have been the reason for the game reboot, but he could have rerolled as scum again, nothing to say he's either or though

So in other words, this Day 1 is yet another Day 1, but this time it's the Spicy variant. I mean yes, fried chicken is on a whole different league when it's spicy, but you don't feel it too much when the regular variant is already too lackluster.