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RWarehall: I do have a justification that everyone should be able to see. In post 452, Ixam uses the term "vanilla townie". This was prior to the lynch and night kills of other "vanilla townie's". I cannot discount the similarity in wording. So in my eyes, he is almost certainly town.
I'm sorry, but vanilla town is the vanilla term for it, easily found in almost all guides. If instead of vanilla town the term for this game was CSI Private and he had used that, then yes, I would accept it as a claim/tell. Vanilla townie though is a weak one.

Unless you mean the usage of townie instead of town, which is also weak. Especially since non-vanilla have the word town, not townie in their PM.
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RWarehall: I do have a justification that everyone should be able to see. In post 452, Ixam uses the term "vanilla townie". This was prior to the lynch and night kills of other "vanilla townie's". I cannot discount the similarity in wording. So in my eyes, he is almost certainly town.
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JMich: I'm sorry, but vanilla town is the vanilla term for it, easily found in almost all guides. If instead of vanilla town the term for this game was CSI Private and he had used that, then yes, I would accept it as a claim/tell. Vanilla townie though is a weak one.

Unless you mean the usage of townie instead of town, which is also weak. Especially since non-vanilla have the word town, not townie in their PM.
But let me assure you. Vanilla townie IS the wording in those PMs, not town.
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RWarehall: I do have a justification that everyone should be able to see. In post 452, Ixam uses the term "vanilla townie". This was prior to the lynch and night kills of other "vanilla townie's". I cannot discount the similarity in wording. So in my eyes, he is almost certainly town.
I see what you're saying, but HypersomniacLive's reveal does not say "vanilla townie" says "townie without any powers" Means the same thing, but if basing your idea off of specific wording it's not the same.
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RWarehall: But let me assure you. Vanilla townie IS the wording in those PMs, not town.
Yes. Townie is mentioned in vanilla PMs, town is mentioned in non-vanilla.
We're on?! That was fast! Unsatisfying results, too :( At least both HijacK and HSL were vanillas...

I'm going to catch up and try to join asap.
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trentonlf: I'm still trying to figure out why HSL was last nights target. He seemed an odd choice with all that happened yesterday, but I guess that's one reason why the scum picked him.
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Robbeasy: Quick one from what Ive skimmed today - Hyper was probably an IDEAL target for NK - minimal input yesterday, no backtrail to analyse for the rest of us, less information to work with.
Exactly this were my thoughts as well.

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TwilightBard: but the role I had yesterday, isn't the same role I have today (So there is some information on how the game is working for the people who are interested in it) I'm willing to put myself at the Tyranny of the Majority for this one.
I'm curious. To be honest, you already put yourself out there at the mercy of the people most likely to kill you (scum). At one point (maybe the OP?) I did see Lifthrasil make a post implying this could / would happen so it's neat to get confirmation.

Usually I'm not big on role claiming so early (too dangerous!) but since you're on a clock now anyway...
Hunh. I find myself in agreement with Trent on several points right now.

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trentonlf: I'm still trying to figure out why HSL was last nights target. He seemed an odd choice with all that happened yesterday, but I guess that's one reason why the scum picked him.
I couldn't come up with any reason at all. Which, as is pointed out here, might be exactly the reason.


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TwilightBard: So instead of anything witty (Besides, who set up that lynch? Speedy fucking Gonzales?)
XD I know, right? When I checked in the other day and saw just how fast Ix's train collapsed and Hijack as picking up votes, I was surprised. (Note as I'm reviewing my post: I'm still giggling to myself about that lynch speed remark. Witty enough for me!)

JMich: When checking the trains, I think you'll find I was the first (or at least one of the very first) to throw a serious vote on Hijack. He'd been continuously misrepresenting my posts and throwing accusations at me; I believe he labeled it an OMGUS vote. I wasn't willing to add to Dedo's train, but I found Ix to be an acceptable candidate when his (Ix's) started building. When Ix's train fell apart and Hijack's started building, I was happy to revert.


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TwilightBard: But I do have some information, which I'm willing to pass along. The reason I'm hesitating, is more because it's convoluted enough to get me lynched...maybe. I want to get it out, but I'm not sure how to handle it. Had this written out earlier, then lost the window, but the role I had yesterday, isn't the same role I have today (So there is some information on how the game is working for the people who are interested in it) I'm willing to put myself at the Tyranny of the Majority for this one.
I'm listening. Can we talk about mechanics today? Because it seems like someone might be able to enlighten us as to whether our speculation day one about powers changing is accurate. I'm a fan of you telling us everything you know about it.


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RWarehall: I do have a justification that everyone should be able to see. In post 452, Ixam uses the term "vanilla townie".
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JMich: I'm sorry, but vanilla town is the vanilla term for it, easily found in almost all guides. If instead of vanilla town the term for this game was CSI Private and he had used that, then yes, I would accept it as a claim/tell. Vanilla townie though is a weak one.
I'm with JMich on this one. Even I recognize "vanilla townie" as generic.


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Ixamyakxim: To be honest, you already put yourself out there at the mercy of the people most likely to kill you (scum). At one point (maybe the OP?) I did see Lifthrasil make a post implying this could / would happen so it's neat to get confirmation.

but since you're on a clock now anyway...
My guess is that he's the NK for tonight, unless he is scum (or scum want us to believe he is scum). Or some other revelation shows up that becomes a bigger priority? Yeah, lots and lots of WIFOM right now.
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Ixamyakxim: At one point (maybe the OP?) I did see Lifthrasil make a post implying this could / would happen so it's neat to get confirmation.
At one point?! Did you actually miss people stomping me for suggesting that? LOL!

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RWarehall: But let me assure you. Vanilla townie IS the wording in those PMs, not town.
Well, I'm both glad and somewhat angry you said that. Fortunately, role shifting seems to be a thing, so I hope that's enough.
It was a tough call, but I'd rather not see a townie as the next lynch. As both Ixam and myself seem like the points of contention and I now believe Ixam is town and I know I'm town, I figured the earlier the better so we can have some time to figure out who really is scum.
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Ixamyakxim: At one point (maybe the OP?) I did see Lifthrasil make a post implying this could / would happen so it's neat to get confirmation.
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dedoporno: At one point?! Did you actually miss people stomping me for suggesting that? LOL!
I've been accused of being inattentive in the past, so it pains me to say this but yes I did miss that *blushes*

Hopefully it happened back when "I" was ddickinson and not me - at least that's my story and I'm sticking to it!
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RWarehall: But let me assure you. Vanilla townie IS the wording in those PMs, not town.
And THAT is a specific discussion of exact wording in the PMs. Not rephrased, not paraphrased. You are quoting. Which is not permitted. Even if it is a very generic term and therefore doesn't say much, the intent behind that post is clearly a comparision of the exact words.

I'll give you all one warning and one warning only. The next one who quotes exact wording from the PM will be eaten by a Bloodsucker.
Post edited March 12, 2015 by Lifthrasil
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Ixamyakxim: I've been accused of being inattentive in the past, so it pains me to say this but yes I did miss that *blushes*

Hopefully it happened back when "I" was ddickinson and not me - at least that's my story and I'm sticking to it!
Oh yeah, that happened. I forgot about that, but are you really progressing without reading the thread? Oh my!
hmmm - this puts me rather in a quandary here - all i can say is go back to Ix's claim, look at my question, then his response to my question.

Then you will understand why I took my vote off him. My tell on Bookwyrm was different to Dedo's , but again, if you go back you will see what I mean.

I can say no more than that.
Well, looks like I killed the thread. To clarify: I did not mean that a bloodsucker already HAS eaten all of you. The game is not over yet, you are free to continue to play! ;-) Just be careful to avoid quoting your PM. Surely there are other methods of deduction and analysis apart from comparing your actual PM wording.
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Lifthrasil: Well, looks like I killed the thread. To clarify: I did not mean that a bloodsucker already HAS eaten all of you. The game is not over yet, you are free to continue to play! ;-) Just be careful to avoid quoting your PM. Surely there are other methods of deduction and analysis apart from comparing your actual PM wording.
Don't worry, I don't think it's your fault :)

Sorry guys, haven't been into it today so nothing to say yet. But I'll have a good read through of everything and try and post something tomorrow because I'll be working most of Saturday.