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Vote count

Ixamyakxim - 7 (dedoporno, adaliabooks, CSPVG, RWarehall, Robbeasy, Bookwyrm627, trentonlf)
RWarehall - 3 (Ixamyakxim, HijacK, TwilightBard)
dedoporno - 1 (JMich)


With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch
Ixmayakxim is closest to lync at L-1
Not voting: flubbucket, Sage, Krypsyn, Hyper
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While everyone retreats into the shelter, all the while still discussing who might have been corrupted by the Monolith, Hypersomniac instead goes to the edge of the camp to take a leak. Unfortunately he hits one of those electromagnetic anomalies and a painful jolt hits him right where it hurts. His startled scream and a loud string of unspeakable curses can surely be heard for miles! "Maybe," he thinks to himself, while carefully retreating from the anomaly, "Maybe I should return to the others, where it is safer than out here alone!"


HypersomniacLive, consider yourself prodded!
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Lifthrasil: While everyone retreats into the shelter, all the while still discussing who might have been corrupted by the Monolith, Hypersomniac instead goes to the edge of the camp to take a leak. Unfortunately he hits one of those electromagnetic anomalies and a painful jolt hits him right where it hurts. His startled scream and a loud string of unspeakable curses can surely be heard for miles! "Maybe," he thinks to himself, while carefully retreating from the anomaly, "Maybe I should return to the others, where it is safer than out here alone!"


HypersomniacLive, consider yourself prodded!
Oh-oh, looks like one can't even take a leak in privacy without finding trouble in the Zone.


I'm in the process of catching up and will return when I'm done. I may also need to take another leak by then, hopefully an uneventful one this time. ;-)
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flubbucket: I think Sage used it as a therapy session.
I did and my therapists all added to my delusions of grandeur.

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adaliabooks: After reading her QT with you from the last game I'll no longer be fooled into thinking Sage is all sweetness and light... ;)
damn I knew I could only be sweetmess and light for so long...


But back to the game.

I really am still on the fence with IX. I do not have him squarely as scum. To me right now, he reminds me of someone who got him self stuck in a bad spot and has kinda given up. Though last game I was scum and when the votes were against me I did not want to say anything wrong to push the votes so I stayed quiet. This could be the same thing.
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ddickinson: My family emergency was both seriously and upsetting for me - I lost my niece, my mother had a bad fall and broke some bones, and a few days later my partner had to be admitted into hospital.
That sounds horrible. :( I totally understand how that might take precedence over, well, everything else.

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ddickinson: Sage and I have never discussed anything about a mafia game we are playing, those of you who know Sage will know she is not the type to be so underhanded. Our only exchange was to pass on the message. The reason I did not tell LifthrasilI was because I was rather upset, not thinking straight, and I was pressed for time.
My concern was more that she had let something slip from a game-related private chat or QT. While I don't think she is underhanded or a cheat, I do think mistakes like that can happen.

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ddickinson: So for the troubles I caused and the disruption of the game, I apologise.
We'll miss you, but just take care of you and yours ... and stay awesome! :)


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As for the game itself....

I have been watching the wagon build on Ixamyakxim the last few days with interest. It has formed with a particular rapidity, but I don't feel he has been hugely scummy. Particularly, his reaction to his forming wagon seems especially pro-town to me (as opposed to his reaction in the last game).

While I think it might be too late in the Day to do any good, and Ixamyakxim's lynch might be a done deal at this point, I am going to put my vote on someone who I actually do believe is scummy and might still have a chance of getting lynched:

Vote: RWarehall
Nice, I have 4 votes from the scummiest people in the game. Not one of you have offered any reasonable explanation for how we can know the word "loyal" is in the town PM. You all seem to ignore this.

Ixam not scummy? He's just been trying to build a case exclusively on people arguably confirmed as town. Wouldn't that be a boon for scum. Lynch one of us today, kill another tonight and then town can go, well I guess you guys were right while most of us are dead and gone and our small advantage is mostly gone.

Seriously, you are surprised Ixam's wagon is building so quickly with less than a day left to decide? Huh? Duh? How long have you been playing this game?

You wonder why Dedo's wagon stalled so quick? You know, he seemed to have knowledge of something contained in the town PM. Why wouldn't the case stall?

Lynch all liars, the saying goes. Look at the people trying to make a deceptive case for what has occurred Day 1....
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RWarehall: Nice, I have 4 votes from the scummiest people in the game. Not one of you have offered any reasonable explanation for how we can know the word "loyal" is in the town PM. You all seem to ignore this.
Bookwyrm627 used the term 'loyalist' for some reason. It, nor its root word, are used anywhere publicly in relation to this game, as you have noted previously. So, he either totally made the term up out of the blue, or he used a word from his PM. Which do you think is more likely?

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RWarehall: Ixam not scummy? He's just been trying to build a case exclusively on people arguably confirmed as town. Wouldn't that be a boon for scum. Lynch one of us today, kill another tonight and then town can go, well I guess you guys were right while most of us are dead and gone and our small advantage is mostly gone.
Yes, he has been building a case on people arguably confirmed as town.

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RWarehall: Seriously, you are surprised Ixam's wagon is building so quickly with less than a day left to decide? Huh? Duh? How long have you been playing this game?
I am not surprised at the rapidity, but I also know that these sort of speed-wagons in Day 1 usually result in a town lynch. How long have you been playing this game?

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RWarehall: You wonder why Dedo's wagon stalled so quick? You know, he seemed to have knowledge of something contained in the town PM. Why wouldn't the case stall?
I am not sure why dedoporno's wagon stalled. He could be scum and his scumbuddies didn't jump on, or he could be town and scum decided that he wasn't juicy enough or has some other reason. Either seems plausible.

A question I think is better is: Why didn't my wagon catch on? There are plenty of people who claim I was, and am, on the top of their scum-list, but none of them ever voted for me. This is very curious to me.

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RWarehall: Lynch all liars, the saying goes. Look at the people trying to make a deceptive case for what has occurred Day 1....
Already done.
Wow. Something started to happen while I was away. Intriguing pattern, too. I wonder if JMich will move his vote from myself to RWarehall, as well.

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Krypsyn: Particularly, his reaction to his forming wagon seems especially pro-town to me (as opposed to his reaction in the last game).
Is Ix known for going kamikaze and pulling his own electric chair's lever every time he is scum and is halfway through to being lynched?
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dedoporno: Is Ix known for going kamikaze and pulling his own electric chair's lever every time he is scum and is halfway through to being lynched?
Straw Man.
I think you are being intellectually dishonest. Clearly the reason Dedo's lynch stalled is the town tell situation. For you to claim you do not know...now that is a lie.
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Krypsyn: Straw Man.
Right.
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RWarehall: I think you are being intellectually dishonest. Clearly the reason Dedo's lynch stalled is the town tell situation. For you to claim you do not know...now that is a lie.
Huh? The 'town tell' situation is one of the major reasons I voted for him! He voted for trentonlf for voting for Bookwyrm627, shortly followed by Robbeasy. I thought it might have something to with Bookwyrm627's word choice so I applied a vote to learn more. Once it was made public and the weakness of the tell was made evident, I am surprised more people didn't vote for dedoporno or Robbeasy, quite frankly.

Out of curiosity, what alignment do you think trentonlf is most likely to be? He voted for Bookwyrm627, which made dedoporno and Robbeasy immediately jump on him, but he was also the first to point out the discrepancy between 'loyalist' and the word he has in him PM.
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Bookwyrm627: I saw I had several pages to browse since last time I checked in, and I clicked past one or two of them and saw story from Lift at the top of the page. I wanted to catch up starting from where I was so that later posts wouldn't be confused by earlier posts (I wanted to establish context), but I did scan pieces of this one because it stood out and was at the top of the page. I didn't read it fully at the time because I wanted to see what else had happened first; I saw something about Ddickinson being knocked out. You may recall the previous discussion about powers possibly shifting around and the reference in the OP to how powers might not stay with someone.

By this point, I honestly can't tell you which of the thoughts that rolled through my head at the time was first, as several speculation scenarios occurred to me while I went hunting for the last page where I'd read posts. As far as typing, the power shift scenario simply happened to be typed first. Regardless of whether or not you believe me, there is nothing significant about the order of that list of thoughts.
I guess I didn't word my question clearly enough. I do remember the discussion about powers possibly shifting, so my question is what made you think that it would be happening in the open.


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dedoporno: [...] (including Lift, who tried to smudge things up with one of the flavor intermissions :D)

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Do you really think that was the case? I'd like to think that a mod would not word his announcements or statements with the intent to meddle with any discussions taking place. So, I'm inclined to think that his announcement here did not have the intention to make things harder for us; perhaps it just means that the term "loyal" or/ and any derivatives are in all PMs in one form or another.

This does not mean that I necessarily consider Bookwyrm627 scum(my), just that I'm not sure what the actual value of the tell is right now.


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Bookwyrm627: [...]

Adalia, trent, flub, and HSL. You guys could finish off Dedo if you all vote for him, otherwise someone(s) has to jump ship for dedo to be the first lynch. Anyone else will require wagon hopping from players. I assume a no lynch is what would occur if time runs out, since people are considered knocked out during the emission. I've read somewhere that it depends on the mod on whether the most voted candidate gets lynched instead.

So far, I'm not willing to jump on dedo's wagon. There are a few other players that I'll join a wagon for. Make of that what you will.
You really are trying your best to get on people's scum list, don't you? I have to agree with trentonlf on this one, and your later explanations sound like you realised you had to paint it in a better light after being called on it. Even then, you play the "No Lynch is bad" card a bit too hard. It doesn't make you look good, and you got my attention.


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Krypsyn: [...]

I have been watching the wagon build on Ixamyakxim the last few days with interest. It has formed with a particular rapidity, but I don't feel he has been hugely scummy. Particularly, his reaction to his forming wagon seems especially pro-town to me (as opposed to his reaction in the last game).

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Could you explain what exactly it is about his reaction that makes you think it's pro-town?


I'm surprised that RWarehall's repeated hints didn't stick out to Robbeasy. I also find it interesting that he insists on his other reasons for having Bookwyrm town, even after the reveal, but still refuses to share. I wonder if he actually did pick up on anything, or is just saying so to appear town while actually being scum.

JMIch seems oddly disinterested in what's happening with Ixamyakxim and RWarehall; he stated he's bored and apparently still is as apart from a brief comment about Bookwyrm's post about finishing off dedo, he's more involved in going back and forth with HijacK about previous games.

I'm not sure what to make of Krypsyn's explanations about his earlier vote on dedoporno. I admit that him stating that he's worked in politics makes me hesitant to take anything he says at face value.

Ixamyakxim behaviour is strange, and I'm not sure if he actually doesn't see why people vote on him. In his latest exchanges with dedoporno it almost sounds like he's hinting at an investigative role that he won't be able to make use of since he's so close to being lynched.

I'm looking at the votes-movement, and it looks like most of the crowd that was on dedoporno on Mar. 6 is now on RWarehall.

As for RWarehall voting on Ixamyakxim and coming back with an argument later, I'd like to remind us all that flubbucket did the same thing when he voted on dedoporno, yet no one batted an eye at the time except for dedoporno.


OK, this is a very lengthy post, and I've not proof-read it thoroughly.
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RWarehall: I think you are being intellectually dishonest. Clearly the reason Dedo's lynch stalled is the town tell situation. For you to claim you do not know...now that is a lie.
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Krypsyn: Huh? The 'town tell' situation is one of the major reasons I voted for him! He voted for trentonlf for voting for Bookwyrm627, shortly followed by Robbeasy. I thought it might have something to with Bookwyrm627's word choice so I applied a vote to learn more. Once it was made public and the weakness of the tell was made evident, I am surprised more people didn't vote for dedoporno or Robbeasy, quite frankly.

Out of curiosity, what alignment do you think trentonlf is most likely to be? He voted for Bookwyrm627, which made dedoporno and Robbeasy immediately jump on him, but he was also the first to point out the discrepancy between 'loyalist' and the word he has in him PM.
I caught that. I didn't have him leaning any way prior to that. It was a bit presumptuous of Dedo to have expected everyone to catch that. I certainly did not plan on joining that wagon merely on that. And his reveal showed knowledge, yes. I plan to go back and make sure he was the first, but if so, yes, I find him town.

I just don't find this as weak as you claim. It is an unusual word to describe town. I can't imagine a scum, not knowing if that word is present in the PM or not, taking a chance on that word. That's how I see it, and I don't see how you seem to think Dedo is a scum target after its pretty much been shown what he said IS true!
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Krypsyn: Straw Man.
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dedoporno: Right.
I call them like I see them. You are taking my argument and conflating it with a similar but entirely different argument that is easier for you to poke holes in. This implies that my actual argument is not one you are willing to actually debate.

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RWarehall: That's how I see it, and I don't see how you seem to think Dedo is a scum target after its pretty much been shown what he said IS true!
Because I think it was an easy leap for someone guess that Bookwyrm627 used the word 'loyalist' because it was in his PM. It is the simplest answer, after all. So, scum could easily just wait for someone to voteBookwyrm627, and then jump on the voter to gain town credibility. Dedoporno never did state why he did it after all; he waited for someone else to bring it up before "confirming" it.