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Bookwyrm627: I didn't anticipate Sage's suicide. As it stands, a fair bit of what she said was probably true, but I don't know how much. The flip confirms her alignment and looks like it confirms the sheer amount of power she had, so I see no reason to disbelieve her goal. However, I'm not sure how many lies are mixed in with her truths prior to when she said "Screw it" (if it is all true, then I'm sorry Sage! I just can't tell).

With the lack of a kill, we should be at 6v1 or 5v2. Either way, because of the lack of NK, we can afford one more town lynch. If there were actually two neutrals in game, then I don't know what our chances are, so I'm going to ignore that possibility as simply uncontrollable.

We've had two townie killed while powered up. The implication seems to be that we lost the powers, so it appears we have had three powers rotating, or Ix is trying to pull a fast one.

JMich, I don't recall you ever stating your power or the time you had it. Care to claim now?
I agree with there having been three powers - as mentioned in my final post (and, indeed, only post of value) yesterday, the reason I believed Ixam was Town was that this Doctor was what once was the Tracker power - the last of the three.

Has Sage left us a parting gift, I wonder? The words "only one" and "hiding in the shadows" are highlighted... Admittedly I'm biased as "hiding in the shadows" matches my own theory...

If this means what I think it does, I feel confident in allowing myself to be somewhat reckless and going for someone who seemed to believe in the false Doctor in post #933 without any thoughts as to how our powers were working...

Vote Krypsyn
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JMich: And this is another reason I wish you to claim.
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Ixamyakxim: Isn't it obvious? I was doctor the other night. Twice (both before I had my power and after) people were trying to find if there was a doctor - I almost took it as role fishing.

I actually DIDN'T protect trentonlf because I felt he was far too obvious a target. When scum took him down I thought that implied they thought we were doctorless (for all I know we were prior to that point); that both you and Krypsyn started fishing for the role gave me even more pause so I held back. Plus, I had one big reason to do so...

I passed the role rather than give it up... to Robb. If he protected someone other than himself or me, that's one more confirmed townie.

But before we go through all that I want to find out what people thought about Sage. If she wasn't lying at what point do we assume there is a third faction (Godfather) that her power couldn't see - it seems like a nice foil to a powerful set of loner abilities.

Or do we just assume for now that we're at 1 or 2 more scum and that's that, it was as simple as Sage lying?
And I can confirm Ix is correct - I was Doctor last night.

I protected myself - I didn't really think anyone stood out as a massive scum NK target, so was a bit selfish, i suppose.

And - and this is important - I am also unsure about who the last scum is / are - therefore I let the power dissipate into the void. The upside being any power 'handed' out tonight definitely goes to a Townie. The downside being we don't quite know what that power will be.

Looks like I was correct to protect myself as well - yay me.

Will be rereading yesterday again now, with what I have just revealed in mind.
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Ixamyakxim: I actually DIDN'T protect trentonlf because I felt he was far too obvious a target.
Who did you protect then? You seem to have missed that part.

Also, when did you become convinced Robb was town?


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Robbeasy: I protected myself - I didn't really think anyone stood out as a massive scum NK target, so was a bit selfish, i suppose.
And just as I was considering believe you two, you say you self-targeted. Even if Doctors are not usually allowed to do so.

Now, add to this that noone had mentioned a doctor role before, and I am very wary of this claim.

If anyone had been a doctor before, that would clear 3 people as town, since if all 3 were scum we'd have lost by now. Same would obviously work if the current doctor claims, but that is a very bad idea for obvious reasons.

Will have to go looking for any mentions of doctor.
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Ixamyakxim: I actually DIDN'T protect trentonlf because I felt he was far too obvious a target.
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JMich: Who did you protect then? You seem to have missed that part.

Also, when did you become convinced Robb was town?


Will have to go looking for any mentions of doctor.
I don't think you'll find mention of a doctor. It's why I was so coy yesterday - between choice of night kills and no doctor saves so far, I don't think scum ever anticipated it. That they went after Robb last night (in my mind the most obvious choice - though I have to admit I was hoping we'd get a save on a third person to get a free town confim!) just confirms it.

And JMich I protected Robb LOL. If he was getting the power, I wanted to make sure he'd stick around to use it! Plus, I thought he or I were good targets for a night kill. I had made myself look a bit scummy with two exchanges (between Krypsyn and Sage) so I was hopeful they wouldn't target me.

I became convicned Robb was town VERY early. I was pegged as scum, had a huge wagon on me and was just about to be lynched... and he backed off due to something I said. There was NO reason for scum to do that. I was done, I was an easy lynch and he had no reason to effectively "save" me other than he was town. Scum would have let me be lynched and laughed about it, because they didn't really put their neck out to do it.
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QuadrAlien: If this means what I think it does, I feel confident in allowing myself to be somewhat reckless and going for someone who seemed to believe in the false Doctor in post #933 without any thoughts as to how our powers were working...
I thought Adaliabooks's claim was plausible, given there had been no mention of a Doctor power at all. I asked for a counter claim, but nobody had one, so I was unwilling to to vote for what I thought might be our only protection role. Had someone said "Yeah, I was a Doctor on Night 2, so that power is certainly in the rotation!", I would have instantly switched my vote. However, there is no mention of Doctor, or any other protection role, prior to Adaliabooks' lynch. In fact, nobody has brought it up until Ixamyakxim and Robbeasy brought it up Today.

As for the rest of it, I am uncertain. There are several scenarios:

1) Ixamyakxim is telling the truth, which means Sage lied, or was mistaken, about who was moving about Yesteray. What reason would she have to lie? She had a neutral win condition, so she could have withheld the results of one of that actors Night 4, but how would she choose who to reveal and who to keep hidden?

2) Ixamyakxim was actually the only one moving about on Night 4, which means he is lying about being scum. This means one of two things: a) He is lying about the entire thing, which implies heavily that Robbeasy is also scum, or b) He was scum that actually did get the Doctor power somehow, but didn't use it and just passed it along to Robbeasy and forwent a NK to make his story work.

I am quite surprised that Ixamyakxim is still alive, however. With the way he was talking Yesterday, he would seem to be a prime target for scum if he were telling the truth. Yet, here is still sits. This seems fishy to me, and tips the balance for me:

Vote: Ixamyakxim
Here's what I think I know so far:

QuadrAlien (as TwilightBard) was the first to reveal migrating powers - we all know that's true at this point, so he's town.

Bookwyrm was IDed twice (okay, so once was by a neutral) as town - does anyone remember the non-Sage ID? I forget the circumstances but I do recall thinking he was "independently verified."

JMich seemed to allude to having powers, and even confirmed not too long ago. Plus (even though there was some overlap if I remember corrrectly?) he seemed to corroborate Twilight / Quadr back when migrating powers were uncertain. I'd have a hard time voting for him because like Bookwyrm for him to no longer be town there'd have to be other stuff going on, in which case I'm already doomed.

And Robb saved a townie last night (in addition to my own previous logic).

To me that only leaves Krypsyn and CSPVG. I'd have a really hard time voting for anyone else, but I want to make sure we get this right or at least confirm some of my own assumptions.
Some may say that this is just because of my long standing suspicion of him, but I am really struggling to believe Ixam here.

In particular, I don't quite understand his explanation of the his use of the 'power'. Firstly, was this an option for everyone else that has had a power thus far? Could you choose between passing the power on or letting it dissipate as Ixam and Rob are suggesting? Secondly he says that he protected Robbeasy and then passed on the power to him. I am assuming this occurred, somehow, on the same night, in which case I'm really bemused about how these powers work.

Furthermore, I don't quite see why Ixam was unable to say," I was doctor last night and protected X, whom I believed to be town. I passed on the power." Would this really have been such a bad thing? He could even have excluded whom he chose to protect. Didn't Ixam say yesterday (I haven't gone back to check) that his reveal would possibly confirm two people? Did he just mean Robbeasy and the person he protected?

Really, this all just seems a little too neat to me. There's a constructed feeling about this, especially with Ixam's congratulatory message at the start of the day. I am not comfortable voting at the moment, though, as I think that today's vote is not going to be as easy to decide as the last few days' votes.
I dont know any of Ix's motives for doing as he has done, but I can confirm

a) I was passed the Doctor power yesterday, and protected myself overnight

b) As Ix has stated , you can either pass the power onto a specified person (with the risk they may be Mafia) , or you can just let it dissipate into the void. In this case , a different power will inhabit someone the next day, but the added bonus here is that person will definitely be Town.

There is a suspicion Ix is overplaying it slightly, but I do feel its a bit of a stretch that he was scum, received the power, then passed it onto me. Yeah, a scum would pass on a Doc role? Not likely for me.

Then - also forego a night kill just to prove their story?? No , not buying it, and anyone trying to sell such a story gets scum points for me.

Im with Quad here - vote Krypsyn
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Robbeasy: There is a suspicion Ix is overplaying it slightly, but I do feel its a bit of a stretch that he was scum, received the power, then passed it onto me. Yeah, a scum would pass on a Doc role? Not likely for me.
A scum would do this as a gambit so they could do exactly what Ixamyakxim did Today and say 'Congrats Doctor!" as his very first post. It is a no rosk scenario to get him self confirmed (which seems to be working).

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Robbeasy: Then - also forego a night kill just to prove their story?? No , not buying it, and anyone trying to sell such a story gets scum points for me.
Getting oneself "confirmed" is easily worth missing a NK. Even allowing the Doctor power back into Town hands is worth it. Getting "confirmed" means that much more time on one's side if you are scum; you won't get lynched immediately (if at all), so no huge rush about NKing every Night.
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Robbeasy: There is a suspicion Ix is overplaying it slightly, but I do feel its a bit of a stretch that he was scum, received the power, then passed it onto me. Yeah, a scum would pass on a Doc role? Not likely for me.
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Krypsyn: A scum would do this as a gambit so they could do exactly what Ixamyakxim did Today and say 'Congrats Doctor!" as his very first post. It is a no rosk scenario to get him self confirmed (which seems to be working).

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Robbeasy: Then - also forego a night kill just to prove their story?? No , not buying it, and anyone trying to sell such a story gets scum points for me.
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Krypsyn: Getting oneself "confirmed" is easily worth missing a NK. Even allowing the Doctor power back into Town hands is worth it. Getting "confirmed" means that much more time on one's side if you are scum; you won't get lynched immediately (if at all), so no huge rush about NKing every Night.
nope sorry don't buy it - i think you are making a last ditch attempt as scum to turn us against a town player.
Vote count

Krypsyn - 2 (Quadralien, Robbeasy)
Ixamyakxim - 1 ( Krypsyn )

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch
Krypsyn is closest to lynch at L-2
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Krypsyn, Krypsyn... Don't you see? My Night 3 power was randomised, not directly transferred - that means, despite the unfortunate circumstances of its randomisation (what with there no longer being a Dedoporno to receive it), I at least can conclude it went to a town player in its changed form - in this case, having turned into a Doctor and gone to Ixam.

Thus, given only Ixam claimed to have a power on Night 4, and no-one's claiming they had one but didn't use it, I must conclude he is telling the truth.

Oh, and Ixam? ...All right. I admit it. It was a good plan. :)
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QuadrAlien: Thus, given only Ixam claimed to have a power on Night 4, and no-one's claiming they had one but didn't use it, I must conclude he is telling the truth.
That doesn't explain how Sage103082 only heard Ixamyakxim moving about on the night a player was NKed, however. I fail to see what reason Sage103082 would have to lie about this. I think something fishy is going on, because it doesn't all add up for me.
Well, it looks like we have a potential scum pair in Ix + Robb, or we have a town pair there and Krypsyn seems to be an alternate favorite instead. For myself, I'm leaning towards Krypsyn being the next scum candidate, but I'm not firmly convinced one way or the other yet.

I don't think we're at lynch or lose yet, but we only have one "spare" townie left before that point because of the lack of NK last night.

Can someone try to put together a timeline of who had what powers on which days? I'll try to do so as well, but I'm not sure when I'll be able to get to it. I think such a timeline might help inform whether Ix's claim is plausible.

Also, are the living willing to claim every night they had a power, and what they did with it, including target and to whom the power was given if it wasn't released? The obvious exception would be whoever has a power today (assuming Robb isn't lying about releasing the power). No sense giving the potential second scum an easy target.
Here's everything I know about the power claims (do tell if there's anything I've missed or got wrong).

First day and night:
Twilight/Quad (Cop, Bookwyrm is Town, randomised)
JMich (Vig, did not fire, randomised)
???

Second day and night:
Bookwyrm (Tracker, Adalia targeted RW/P1na, transferred to Twilight/Quad)
Trent (Cop, Flubb is Mafia, randomised)
RW/P1na (???, killed)

Third day and night:
Quad (Tracker, Ixam did nothing, attempted transfer to Dedo but randomised)
Dedoporno(???, killed)

Fourth day and night:
Ixam(Doctor, protected Robb, transferred to Robb),

Fifth day and night:
Robb(Doctor, protected Robb, randomised).

A couple of blanks, but it seems to all add up to me.