We have players who have yet to even taken part in a govt and you want a second shot at chancellor when your first had less than savory results? Your logic makes sense for it being a safe choice for Joe...but I would argue we test people who don't already have a ding against their record.

Well while I think Maxleod's chat looks fascist I find it hard to blame him for his government result. Unless we are to believe both Joppo and Maxleod both dropped Liberal cards. This happens sometimes but it is very rare. You have to have the following circumstances:

A) A draw of LLF
B) 2 Fascists in gov
C) The president dropping a Liberal policy while knowing his fellow fascist may be in government soon and having a high risk of a 3 fascist card draw. In a low Liberal card deck, this is not advisable strategy for fascists

So I don't like your critique of Maxleod because he was in a fascist government. It's unreasonable. And your chat like your predecessor I do find your outlook to be fascist. It makes me question if A) you're a fascist ganging up on some liberal that is considered fascist or B) You're distancing yourself from a fascist you consider an obvious fascist that you need to dump.

xD Thanks :D
I never get any interesting adventures
[sobs noisily in the background]

There is too point in you talking! How else would we get our daily dose of Joe?
(I once or twice tried to write out my thoughts like you do, but it was never funny, always convoluted, and just lay there like an ill-fashioned clod.)

The main point of my post is that I think we have better options. Max seems real eager to get into a govt which could either be
A. They're a liberal desperately trying to be tested to be back on neutral ground policy wise.
B. They're fash looking at the 2 policy deficit and trying to close that gap.

The fact that you are (supposedly) going to reject this current nomination of max/yourself means that we both agree that putting them back into a govt at this moment is not ideal.

Finally about my touching on Max policy record...how many F policies do we let a person pass before we start scrutinizing their intentions?

This is a very unexpected and BAD post. If Maxleod is liberal, he's not supposed to be okay with "Joe wins either way". A liberal Maxleod can't be okay with helping further a possible fascist Joe's goals.
Proposing to help him, just to be in government, is a very anti-liberal thing to do.

I also think that, as far as giving a reason for choice of Scene, his thoughts weren't exactly... deep. Not that I would expect him to "prove" that Scene is the best choice. It's not something that any liberal can achieve for now. But as far as reasonings go I thought his were, well, almost not there.


Huh. I didn't expect this.
Is fascist Scene smart enough to bank on throwing away a government with a very suspected player only to get liberalCred? He probably is, but I believe this is still more likely to come from a liberal Scene.

I didn't like your previous post either but you have a point that there simply are better options around.
However, I also agree with Scene that it's the content of Maxleod's posts that should be the main reason to judge him by. Naturally, in my view they are enough to show a fascist.

That's not how you play Secret Hitler and win. You're literally asking to be nominated by Joe whom you are usure if he's liberal or fasc (at least that's how the "if your liberal" and "if your fascist" bits read like). It's not really how it works at all.

The way you go about this doesn't instill a lot of confidence in your government. Then again, scene is passing on the opportunity, too, so what do I know.

This is amusing, we are having fun!

Sorry folks, i was doing IRL and then was in LEGO Incredibles. I failed to see Zeo's message and he might now be in bed. If so, that's my fault.

Can I just say I think the person who gets the next investigation should disuss with all the players who we all would like investigating the most. This is ofcourse a possible occurance in the next government. Especially if someone has already silently dropped a Liberal policy.

Supposing this government does not pass and I do get that jist. Have you thought about who you might nominate? You could stick with Pooka who's played a Liberal policy with you already. Or you could test myself out. You may also want to test someone out you find Liberal sounding. Ofcourse if you're fascist you may desperately want to get a teammate into the game. Anything is ofcourse a possibility.

my finger is acting up again so i might go a bit afk for a few days after starting the next phase.

B-b-b-b-b-b- *For a moment, GR's head seems to pop off in a puff of smoke before growing back again*

Didn't you yourself say (several times, iirc) that you'd vote yes/jah for govvts with you in them?
(also i'd think L!you would want to be second in command because then you get to [hopefully] pass another L policy)

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To Everyone(re the above): My......head....hurts

Well, we can try RPing in the next mafia game whenever it comes up :)

Fwiw, i've found some of your posts(in mafia games/etc) to be funny/amusing and/or fun to read.

That was in the initial stages of game with no information on players. Now I have more information about the players and who I consider more likely Liberal and less likely Liberal. Ofcourse I want to be in government but I also want any President I'm in government with to be likely to be Liberal. Other a fascist may have the chance to silent drop cards or even conflict me. Neither are desirable.

I strongly agree with this, we need to take a thorough look at everyone and make the best use of this power if it happens to come into out lap.

Of course it could also lead to more questions about whether or not we can trust the one providing the investigation results.

I, personally, feel that investigating Joppo makes the most sense as that may confirm effectively 2 Liberals for everyone. Of course, there are no guarantees the investigator won't happen to be Joppo's fascist buddy. Or Joppo may be a Liberal and an investigator fascist may sacrifice himself to conflict him in order to discredit both him and his report on myself but is that so terrible? Joppo is already under some amount of suspicion anyway. The only substantial net loss (at least from my perspective) is me getting dragged down but I already made sure 2 L getting enacted so maybe my work here is done? I don't know, maybe it's better to do someone else but not sniffing Joppo out for fear of a conflict that may affect me by extension seems like an ostrich type solution (ignoring the problem makes it non-existent).