And compared to, for example, scene, Lift and yourself, that's the most vocal?

OK

The only way I'm F is if Joppo also is. The other way around isn't possible. So if you think I'm F than you should be also thinking Joppo is F by extension.

I have been formally targeted for investigation in post 232:

You keep not paying attention and grasping at straws here.

Well as I said, it'd be first and foremost to test them.

Also, if you note the bit in parenthesis: I was hinting at getting "quieter players" to post/interact more with the game(and of course, fellow players), so other players would perhaps have more to analyze/etc.

I already answered this in post 531....here ya go: link
(**also out of game: hope you're starting to feel better)

As I just said above to Dedo, my suggestion was less about "rewarding inactive players/etc" and more about getting said players to interact with the game/other players more.....etc etc.

Speaking of: they've since started posting a good deal since you brought this up, oddly enough.

I think Maxleod sorta has a point, in a way.....in that any posts could(key word) have hidden meanings and even such remarks should perhaps be scrutinized.

That said, my gut trusts your govvt/pairing, so I will vote and see where the chipz fall

Well this looks promosing. We seemingly have 2 confirmed fascists in Lift and Maxleod and by extension 2 confirmed liberals in ZFR and Dedo because Maxleod was being way too obvious in his unfounded criticism of them. Gamezranker defending Maxleod quite probably makes him fascist by extension. Good good

I'm betting on a fasc team of Pooka, Lift, Maxleod and Gamezranker. 3 of those players voted YES for Pookas government, GR being the exception. So he's the most likely Lib out of all 4. Guessing the fascist team rarely works 100% though, so if I've fasced you wrongly please don't do the same with me

There were also three other players who voted yes for my government. In fact if we want to grasp at "convenient facts," four players voted nein to my government. I say it is more likely two fash have voted yes and two other fash voted no, in an attempt to bank on me being suspected of being fash and to foil attempts at increasing possible candidates for government, but at the same time without being too obvious about it.

Reminder that it is in fascist interest to keep the worthy candidates zone as small as possible. Either to shade them in hopes of capitalizing on getting another fash in power, or to get more F policies ASAP, or to emphasize Hitler if he's already one of those candidates. You yourself believe that fascists do their damnedest to get Hitler into an early government, when things are much easier.

That there was resistance to my government with Joe and him passing L when handed LF tells me that Joe is pretty much most probably Liberal and it was the right decision to install him as foreman. When we get to Hitler zone, we'll need to know who to trust and who not to trust as by that point we can expect fascists to play up their conflicts and reduce our list of nice candidates really nicely...and we've only got 6 liberals out of 10 players in this game. So far, I can trust Joe, and even if Joppo was fascist scum, I think it more likely that he was truthful about dedo being liberal.

The rest I'm not sure about. I don't have a good feeling about ZFR, but he's not super bad at the moment. Given we're still two F policies away from the zone, we still have room to try him out without fear.

Query: Where did I "defend" Maxleod(I do recall suggesting them to be ZFR's 2nd in command, but among several other candidates)?

Wait, do you mean the end bit to post 560? If so, imho that's a stretch to call that "defending".
(I actually even noted some suspicion re: Maxleod in that same Post....560, middle bit)

K

I'm sorry. It's not getting better. I am totally exhausted all the time and reading and analyzing what you all wrote feels like a chore. Not like a game. I feel unable to even try to work out who the fascists are an what our best governments would be.

@Micro: so please replace me after all. It's just not working out. Until you find a replacement for me, please use following defaults:
NO to any government involving Scene, Joppo or Maxleod
YES to everything else. Unless we are in Hitler zone. In that case also NO to Joe as chancellor (I think I explained above that he might be super liberal Hitler)

Out of Joppo and Max, at least one might be fascist. And since we have better choices, I think it's better to exclude them.

And how do the fascists do that finely tuned coordination if they don't have a scumchat? Are you guys really exchanging telepathic messages?


It's possible, yes. He could also be hitler. You know very well that hitler would pass L policies at this stage to remain electable.
Heck, sometimes even regular fascists pass L in early game to have more chances to keep coming back into office. You probably remember the last SH, where fascist GR passed an L and made it 3L-0F and how that turned out great for his team.
So in my eyes Joe's chances of being fascist went a bit down but he's absolutely not cleared.

That sucks. I hope it's not getting worse at least. Fingers crossed you'll feel better soon, regardless of whether you'll finish the game or not. All the best, friend.

I'm sorry to hear that. Get better as soon as you can, that's what matters most.

@Lift Please know we love you and hope you feel better very very soon. Take care of yourself. If you feel like chatting, we are here.

PLEASE keep us updated on your health as you feel up to it and changes occur!

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Lifthrasil has asked for a sub. If anyone is interested in taking his place, please let me know.

I have a lead on 3 possible replacements (BTG & two folks from a discord server); Lift has also told me what to do in case of XYZ etc.

Shall I

1) wait for a replacement another 24 hours, and then give them 24-48 hours to catch up?
or
2) play Lift's default and advance to the Legistlative phase? (With Lift's generic instructions in place, all of the votes are in, but Lift's replacement might want to change the vote?

I'd say advance to the nex legislation, and hope Lift gets better.