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Posted March 28, 2020
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Squirline: Why not? I like people who just write this is bad that is bad ,but never elaborate.
Usually the complaints against 2016 I see on "old school PC" sites are about the arena design and the glory kills. I get that to some degree but everything else was so well done I was fine with it. The issue with Eternal is they doubled-down on all the bad stuff.
Posted March 28, 2020
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Squirline: Why not? I like people who just write this is bad that is bad ,but never elaborate.
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StingingVelvet: Usually the complaints against 2016 I see on "old school PC" sites are about the arena design and the glory kills. I get that to some degree but everything else was so well done I was fine with it. The issue with Eternal is they doubled-down on all the bad stuff.
I have to agree with this. Stinging velvet seems perceptive to some degree......
Posted March 28, 2020
Tried it on Ultra-Violence (of course, because I'm a cool gamer) and get myself killed 2 times on a first level ;)

This game is all about glory kills, chainsaw small enemies for ammo and flame small enemies for extra armor. I don't know what to think of this game yet, only 2 levels were finished so far, but every time I see a cacodemon I "have to" shove a grenade/sticky bomb into its mouth, a spiderdemon - use sticky bomb for its cannon and NO OTHER approach.

Platforming, exploring and secret gates are nice though. The game overall is beautiful, the music is also fine. But I prefer Doom (2016) because I can actually shoot guns there, in Doom Eternal I always on low ammo, no, not always, constantly.

I hope the game will be more difficult after that, because I died only 20 times already.
Post edited March 28, 2020 by Cadaver747
Posted March 29, 2020
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Cadaver747: I hope the game will be more difficult after that, because I died only 20 times already.
Why not lower the difficulty then?

As for me, I used whatever I wanted on enemies, BUT I used cover to good effect(i.e. hiding like a coward :D).
Posted March 29, 2020
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Levsus: I was super excited and hyped for this game. The extra several months they took to design it, made me feel it was going to be what I needed to get back into the FPS genre.

I streamed some on twitch and did not enjoy myself. I ended up having to calm down with Animal Crossing because I was so geeked out and not in a good way.

I'm not very far in, but for me personally, I do not like the fact that DE takes all the elements of shooters I dislike and force feeds them to me. I was expecting evolvement of 2016. What I got was Super Doomrio with about the same amount of weapons, or at least that's what it feels like.

I used part of my work bonus for this and then immediately had to take self quarantine the next day because I started having symptoms. My money could have gone to better use, like toilet paper or water. I do not personally care for this game and probably never will. Like stinging, I'm probably just going to crank it down to the easiest difficulty and burn through the story to attempt to get my money's worth.

As it is a gamestop purchase, there is no refund for pc games via gamestop. If I'd be patient and gotten it on steam, I could have refunded it. I guess I got taught a lesson the hard way.

At least ESO is still fun...
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nightcraw1er.488: What I can say, after getting four levels in is that it does get a bit better. It is still very much doomrio, no getting away from bouncy platforms and swingy pipes. But you do get a bit more ammo (with the upgrades) and the maps are quite big and complex. Had to lower the difficult one level though as getting mangled by everything at every encounter was not fun, playing on lowest setting now and still a challenge. Chainsaw mechanic is just a pile of crap, who thought of that should be told to FCK off back to fortnite or whatever trash he normally plays. I mean what are the demons doing, eating it!
Also, it was a great tool against pink beast, which is now a “looky I fly over your head and shoot your tail” encounter, ala crouching pink beast flying doom guy.
All in all it’s about the same as 2016 version, much more of the worse bits. I recommend getting brutal doom or project brutal off moddb and playing that, far better FPS in every right.
Cheers. I appreciate the feedback!
Posted March 29, 2020
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GameRager: Why not lower the difficulty then?

As for me, I used whatever I wanted on enemies, BUT I used cover to good effect(i.e. hiding like a coward :D).
Because for me there would be no honor in winning on lowered difficulty. Especially after so many stream players (maybe not so many) playing this game on Nightmare.
Posted March 29, 2020
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Squirline: Why not? I like people who just write this is bad that is bad ,but never elaborate.
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StingingVelvet: Usually the complaints against 2016 I see on "old school PC" sites are about the arena design and the glory kills. I get that to some degree but everything else was so well done I was fine with it. The issue with Eternal is they doubled-down on all the bad stuff.
I think this is what it is. If they'd doubled down on the good stuff and increased the pace by 50% it would have been fine. Every time I play it I feel like I'm playing a life or death slot machine with QTE that I have to glory kill after just the right sequence for my "payout" of health and the chainsaw with my "payout" of ammo.

This is in my opinion not a well designed game, though the devs from NewBlood seem pretty keen on it. I think I'm going to uninstall it. And I truly regret buying it from gamestop where I cannot get a refund.

This game is enjoyable for the visual dopamine people, but for me, I have enough dopamine as it is, so I don't like it. No offense to those who enjoyed it, but I'm done with this one for now.
Posted March 29, 2020
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Cadaver747: Because for me there would be no honor in winning on lowered difficulty. Especially after so many stream players (maybe not so many) playing this game on Nightmare.
I love the challenge and feeling of accomplishment from beating a game I love on the hardest setting. If I'm not into it that much though, I feel no shame lowering it.
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Cadaver747: Because for me there would be no honor in winning on lowered difficulty. Especially after so many stream players (maybe not so many) playing this game on Nightmare.
Yes, but it IS just a game.....beating it & having fun should be what matters, not what difficulty one plays it at...right? :)

(Also with games like this, the easiest difficulties are more like normal difficulty or harder on other games, so lowering it a bit might not mean one is "wimping out" as much as with other games)
Posted March 29, 2020
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GameRager:
Not a shame really, more like a challenge which was accepted soon after I hit "Start". The only FPS game where I considered to lower the difficulty was Descent and I don't want to discuss it ;)
No worries, I have my fun so far and the difficulty level is just right for me. The problem is I can't play Doom Eternal at the moment since I'm not at my place.

P.S. I was wrong: it's more effective to shot the spider's cannon using sniper mod.
Posted March 29, 2020
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Cadaver747: Not a shame really, more like a challenge which was accepted soon after I hit "Start". The only FPS game where I considered to lower the difficulty was Descent and I don't want to discuss it ;)
What I meant is challenge is good but having fun should come first....not how hard a game is. :)

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Cadaver747: No worries, I have my fun so far and the difficulty level is just right for me. The problem is I can't play Doom Eternal at the moment since I'm not at my place.
Well as long as yer having fun. :)

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Cadaver747: P.S. I was wrong: it's more effective to shot the spider's cannon using sniper mod.
I just shot it with anything or hid and body shotted the enemies from behind stuff(if there is stuff to hide behind). o.0
Posted March 29, 2020
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Cadaver747: P.S. I was wrong: it's more effective to shot the spider's cannon using sniper mod.
Yeah, that's easier. With mouse aim anyway. Later in the game you get a chaingun which is good for headshots/weak points as well, plus it has an alt fire which can mow down anything very quickly.
Posted March 29, 2020
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Squirline: Does this game worth 50euros or should I just get the Doom for 5?

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Crevurre: Both 2016 and Eternal are bad, for different reasons. People should not be praising 2016.
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Squirline: Why not? I like people who just write this is bad that is bad ,but never elaborate.
It was ruined by its save system. The glory kills were useless and dire.
Posted March 29, 2020
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Crevurre: This thread should be in the sub-forum. Everyone who thinks Doom is bad report it.
1. GOG doesn't sell this game so it shouldn't go in that sub forum, imo.

2. Shuddup
(To others, clip is looney tunes video clip with sound and SFW)
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psadler: It was ruined by its save system. The glory kills were useless and dire.
The glory kills are still fun enough.

Also I dunno about others but I could pull them off easily enough(plus there was enough ammo-health on lower skill levels to not need to do it all the time).

As for the save system.....aren't the old school doom fans used to checkpoint saves or worse(like passwords for every level start)?

Eh, maybe everyone(including me) is getting too old for that sort of thing. :D
Post edited March 29, 2020 by GameRager
Posted March 29, 2020
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Didn't like how 2017 Doom locked you into rooms during certain fights (usually gore nest fights).
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