@ ViolatorX I've never said Vitek is innocent and everyone else is guilty. At the moment Vitek is labeled town as he was against causing confusion.

Suspected Taleroth was town. But labeled him as mafia simply as a reminder he missed Thiev off his lych list. As I had this crazy idea both him and Thiev could be mafia.

it's only dangerous if the remainder of the town isn't intelligent enough to form their own opinions based on the argument and not forget to look at other people too.

Holy burst of activity, Batman!

I'm throwing this post in here to confirm that I'm not lurking, that it's in fact RL being a bitch again. Sorry about that, I know how annoying that is to other players (not to mention myself). I'll do one of those paper trail posts either later today or tomorrow, hard to say at the moment.

The nolynch deadline is pretty tight, if 8 people are to reach a consensus. At this point, we really should start forming wagons; I know how scummy that sounds, but I have some passive experience with last minute lynches now and they aren't pretty.

Taleroth? Or Typhoon?
I said nothing regarding Taleroth. And if you mean staying out of discussion between Rodzaju and nmillar - I have almost no knowledge of previous games. I didn't bother, as Ghost stated this one is supposed to be different. Apparently now I'll have to or I won't understand half of the referencing posts.

That no-lynch deadline might have a series of delays if I can't find a replacement for Typhoon soon.

Wow, I read some of the huge burst of activity last night but I went to bed instead of joining in. Upon catching up now I feel a little overwhelmed.

I'd say Rodzaju's made himself look a bit suspicious there but I dunno, his intentions might have been pure even if his arguments were stupid. :P

Well, Rodzaju appears to believe people should be lynched if they have what he considers bad arguing techniques, in fact it was the basis of his argument.

Mostly just pointing out that it's humourous, not that you should vote for him if you don't believe him to be scum.

I second this; I don't believe Rodzaju is mafia, but the basis of his argument against me is flawed. While my play style could be considered dangerous to town if I am mafia, the flip-side (which so far has been ignored) is that if I'm town, I pose the same danger to mafia ...

That's a good point, and I wish I'd thought about that myself. There was a lot of suspicion on me after the mis-lynch of GhostQlyph in Mafia #4; thankfully I did enough to stay alive and finish off ViolatorX at the end of that game. If it wasn't for the addition of the 'no night kills on consecutive nights' clause that Damnation inserted, I'd have a perfect record over the last two games!

Anyway, back to the game in hand. ViolatorX seems to have a more measured approach to his posts this time around, so I'm crossing him off my suspects list for the time-being.

Fixed.

=D

You beat me to it!

Scum like to 'fix' people, don't they? :P

As promised, I thought it wouldn't be a bad idea to state what my reads are.

ViolatorX/Taleroth:
I didn't like Taleroth's suggestion of lynching weak players first, nor the whole idea of "whoever votes for nmillar is scum", but on the whole a fairly solid town read. Helpful, eager to scumhunt, with a few oddities here or there that I think were Taleroth's idiosyncracies rather than scumtells. Nothing from Violator yet to change my mind.

Pazzer:
Tricky. Typical Pazzer play, which he'd presumably do as scum as well as town. Still, the "I volunteer for lynching" gambit would definitely be too ballsy, which is why I'm willing to believe he's town.

Nmillar:
Something off about him, can't quite put my finger on it. My own read of him corresponds with Robb's; there's something too forceful in his play this time around. If he is scum, the Rodzaju argument is a godsend for him, as it washes away a lot of suspicion.

Rodzaju:
No, I don't think he's mafia either, but he's kicked up a lot of sand that makes it really hard to see what's going on. If people were lynched for bad play, he'd deserve it more than anyone right now, but I can't find enough to hang him on in the actual content.

Vitek:
Complete mystery to me. I constantly find Vitek very hard to read, and this game is no exception.

TwilightBard:
A very solid town read. Focused on scumhunting, frowns upon everyone who's mudding up the game, and his arguments are quite consistently written from the perspective of a townie. Very little that has made me question him, so far.

Thiev:
Unfortunate choice of words in that semi-silly game. I very much read it as a honest rookie mistake, but one that has actually been quite helpful in opening a discussion. I'd be surprised if he turned out to be anything but town.

Orryyrro:
The international man of mystery. Seriously, I have a grand total of one note about him. And it's not very interesting, either.

Robbeasy:
I like his logic in this game quite a lot, but I am also very much aware that the mafia is capable of using good logic, too. Trust, but verify is my approach.

SirPrimalform:
One of my candidates for scum. Not for any particular reason, but his general approach to the game sounds a few alarms. I don't want to go into details quite yet.

Typhoon45:
I absolutely do not buy his weaseling out of that argument I've had with him near post 191. "I was making it all up" is nonsensical; townies should never ever lie, nor make up any fanciful claims just to get the game going. It is confirmed that one of Typhoon/Violator/Pazzer is a fragile role; my money is on Typhoon, and I'm almost certain about it. But I don't want to push this any further until he's replaced, as that would be quite ungentlemanly.

QuadrAlien:
Uncertain read. Likes to be the voice of reason, but anything can be hiding behind that.

Damnation:
My prime suspect, for several reasons, two of which are large enough to deserve special mention here. Reason number one is a detail that slipped by: his mention of Lovecraft in post #130. Ever since that sentence, I've been wondering where that came from, because I don't see anything particularly Lovecraftian in the flavour we have so far. There's Twin Peaks, alright, but the only thing hinting at anything else is the laughter in the woods, and that is not remotely enough to point specifically at Lovecraft -- it's a pretty common horror trope. And from this I conclude it probably comes from something in Damnation's PM, and being familiar with the work of H.P. Lovecraft, this makes me quite uneasy.
Reason number two: post #236. I just can't see the argument he's building in that post as written from a townie perspective. Sure, it can be read as Damnation covering all theoretical bases, but what on Earth does "Should Thiev be a town powerrole, he can easily become a liability to town" mean? Can anyone explain the townie reasoning behind the argument there, topped off with a vote for Thiev, no less? I honestly don't.

I know I said that we should build wagons now, but with the exception of the two votes currently going for nmillar, there isn't one I could honestly support myself. Situation isn't that desperate quite yet.

Therefore,

unvote
vote Damnation

Your first point I will address, the other I would actually like to hear others' opinion off.

Anyhow, the whole deal of my comment on it having a Lovecraftian twist to it is really rather simple. The flavour put forth by Ghost depicts a voice from the woods intending to sew chaos in a small town of people, it seeks to make the inhabitants fight and kill one another - that suits multiple lovecraftian deities. Hence, I see the game having a Lovecraftian twist. There really isn't much to it. If you don't see that as a Lovecraftian twist, hey, that's just how you perceive the flavour Ghost provides.

I'm going to unvote and think things over a bit. Several people are suspicious, but I need to read through the thread a bit.

Hmm... You know, Bazilisek, now that you mention it, there's another extremely odd choice of words in that post by Damnation - he refers to Thiev as the "most lynchable"... That does give me the impression of someone thinking "this person should be selected as the first mislynch" rather than "this person is acting suspiciously and should be pushed further"...

Vote Damnation