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nmillar: However, n0x0ss' latest post is scummy as hell. He won't reveal who else he thinks is mafia because he wants the people he'd potentially be accusing to help him lynch me ... Surely if I and the other suspects are mafia, they're not going to support the lynch anyway?
This.
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N0x0ss: For god's sake ! Being townies doesn't mean being a blind goat that has to say EVERYTHING that's on his mind !

It's part of a townie's role to outsmart the mafia !

What's the point in outsmarting them If I constantly have to reveal 24h/24 what's on my mind ?

I mean, you people have the wrong Idea that townies must always be 100 per cent transparent, otherwise they're most probably mafia !

Would a mafia really risk saying he is hiding something ?
Mafia would probably play dumb, or say something clear, but probably wrong.

If I say that I think X, Y and Z are scums, I'll probably never get X & Y support if they turn out to be townies and I am wrong.
You do get my way of thinking, don't you ?
By acting scummy(Through your multiple accusations of NMillar and longwinded posts on that subject, etc.) you are doing yourself & your fellow town(If you are in fact a townie.) no favors and if you are town you should try to keep from getting wrongly lynched and costing us the game. If you are scum, then please keep going as you are now, so more can become suspicious of you and lynch you(Thus helping us to win the game.).
how am I costing you the game when Nmillar want me to reveal whom I think are his buddies thus creating tension between us and for me to lose any legitimity whatsoever to accuse him ?

He/She always jumps on the occasion to say "Now That's very scummy! "

Is it ? Are townies suppose to remain as sheeps ? Should I say every time "Beeeeh" when I post a message or is it what you want me to do :-) ?
Seriously, people?! You are all around to respond?! Meh, I will read it later, Witcher is of more importance right now.

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N0x0ss: Is it ? Are townies suppose to remain as sheeps ? Should I say every time "Beeeeh" when I post a message or is it what you want me to do :-) ?
In game 8, xyem, mafia goon, had restriction to post "baaaa" in each of his post otherwise the mafia kill would fail. ;-)
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N0x0ss: how am I costing you the game when Nmillar want me to reveal whom I think are his buddies thus creating tension between us and for me to lose any legitimity whatsoever to accuse him ?
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He/She always jumps on the occasion to say "Now That's very scummy! "
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Is it ? Are townies suppose to remain as sheeps ? Should I say every time "Beeeeh" when I post a message or is it what you want me to do :-) ?
You are costing us the game(If you are town) by acting scummy through your constant want/need to lynch NMillar & the way you've gone about telling us of it.

As for accusing the ones you think are scum, well a good strategy(If you are town.) would be to accuse all you think to be scum so it doesn't seem like you're a scum trying to get us targeted on one person(Which is how it seems now with you focusing on NMillar.) so we'll kill them. Tell us ALL your reads, scum and town....not just to make you seem less scummy(to others here, not just me perse.), but also so we can use your reads to possibly help form/adjust our own and get the game moving along even more.
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This is a good tactic to use in game for various reasons.....it doesn't necessarily mean someone using it is scummy.
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Town should question everything and everyone, and help the other town players by posting reads/their random thoughts on the game/etc to help the other town form their own reads and to keep the game moving. :)
As far as I know, every single one of you guys can be mafias :)
So don't expect me to share whatever opinion or strategy I have with you.

As for you GameRager, you deceive me...

Anyway, I dare you guys to go on and lynch me :). We'll see who'll feel smart once i'm dead.
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N0x0ss: As far as I know, every single one of you guys can be mafias :)
So don't expect me to share whatever opinion or strategy I have with you.
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As for you GameRager, you deceive me...
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Anyway, I dare you guys to go on and lynch me :). We'll see who'll feel smart once i'm dead.
I hardly think some simple reads(Short of anything that might outright suggest you have a power role.) would (If you are town.) have much of an effect on whether the scum of the game see you as a threat or not & try to off you, or cause you to lose support for your current cause(If it's convincing enough.). If anything some reads from your side might get you more support(Even from some you accuse, possibly.) for your current cause, and as I said before it might help you look less scummy.
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How? Because I don't stay allied with someone when they act like they might be scum? That's just how the game goes, my friend.
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Well if you're scum(As I think you might be[Dunno for certain yet.].) then this would actually be a blessing as it'd help the town win. You could be scum and you're possibly trying reverse psychology here to draw attention from you by saying this...I dunno for sure though.

If you're town, though, I dunno if losing you due to your scummy actions here lately would be a hit we could take after two town losses. If you are town, then start acting town....post some reads, or just lay off going so hard after(Don't stop it if you feel NMillar is scum, just be less vocal about it.) NMillar. If they are scum then post convincing proof and get people to join you, but don't just point fingers so much/so "loudly" without much proof or reasons why you're doing so.
My oh my ... Seems like you chose to align yourself with Vitek, my dear Gamerage...

Yet you were following my lead before..

At least now I know where you stand.

--->Useless vote against planeshaper ---->No lynch ----> Vote against Violator.

Here's a link to your actions :
http://www.gog.com/en/forum/general/gog_forum_mafia_12_taumarumarutanga_o_twhiritike/post56
http://www.gog.com/en/forum/general/gog_forum_mafia_12_taumarumarutanga_o_twhiritike/post103
http://www.gog.com/en/forum/general/gog_forum_mafia_12_taumarumarutanga_o_twhiritike/post419


Not accusing you of anything, just trying to study your pattern.
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N0x0ss: My oh my ... Seems like you chose to align yourself with Vitek, my dear Gamerage...

Yet you were following my lead before..
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At least now I know where you stand.

--->Useless vote against planeshaper ---->No lynch ----> Vote against Violator.

Here's a link to your actions :
http://www.gog.com/en/forum/general/gog_forum_mafia_12_taumarumarutanga_o_twhiritike/post56
http://www.gog.com/en/forum/general/gog_forum_mafia_12_taumarumarutanga_o_twhiritike/post103
http://www.gog.com/en/forum/general/gog_forum_mafia_12_taumarumarutanga_o_twhiritike/post419
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Not accusing you of anything, just trying to study your pattern.
I haven't aligned myself with Vitek. (For now)I just agree with one of his actions, is all.

And I "followed your lead" because at that time your actions/words made the most sense given how I was trying/how I wanted to play the game, and we didn't have much to go on yet. (Oh, and to be nice to a fellow player.)
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I voted for Planeshaper purely randomly, using the method I mentioned before. I did this mainly as not many had voted yet and not much had taken place, and I wanted to get the game moving. Plus, I felt like being silly att.

Then I moved to nolynch because you advocated it and I felt that the risk was too great to hit two townies on Day One by choosing to lynch someone.

I'm currently on ViolatorX unless I see a bigger suspect pop their scummy little head above water.
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Well at least you posted something. :)
Votecount the Fifth

ViolatorX: 3 votes (L-3). Voted by Vitek (#417), GameRager (#419) and nmillar (#452).
nmillar: 1 vote (L-5). Voted by IronStar (#366).
N0x0ss: 1 vote (L-5). Voted by boct1584 (#438).
matti1996: 1 vote (L-5). Voted by ViolatorX (#448).

Not voting: Gazoinks, matti1996, aylien, N0x0ss. With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

The deadline is in 73 hours.

Unless someone is lynched by the deadline, the player with the most votes will be modkilled (if there are more players with the same number of votes, I will pick one of them via random.org).

I am likely to be without internet connection until Friday evening European time, so even if you do lynch someone, twilight will not occur earlier than that.

Carry on.
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bazilisek: Votecount the Fifth

ViolatorX: 3 votes (L-3). Voted by Vitek (#417), GameRager (#419) and nmillar (#452).
nmillar: 1 vote (L-5). Voted by IronStar (#366).
N0x0ss: 1 vote (L-5). Voted by boct1584 (#438).
matti1996: 1 vote (L-5). Voted by ViolatorX (#448).

Not voting: Gazoinks, matti1996, aylien, N0x0ss. With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

The deadline is in 73 hours.

Unless someone is lynched by the deadline, the player with the most votes will be modkilled (if there are more players with the same number of votes, I will pick one of them via random.org).

I am likely to be without internet connection until Friday evening European time, so even if you do lynch someone, twilight will not occur earlier than that.

Carry on.
What about the inactive players in matti and alyien who havent posted in a week?
Trying to get them modkilled?
Do we really want ViolatorX to be lynched ?

I for one won't have his blood on my hands.
Not for this round at least.. Doesn't seem scummy to me.
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Vitek: You first mentioned in that post here:



Then you only put him under scummy pile and at the end you said you think he is scum.

Where is the reasoning for him being scum?
My search indicates you haven't mentioned his name ever until post no. 398. You even left him out of your reads list.
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ViolatorX: Either your dumb or trying to prevoke me, try reading it and you'll see it.

But I'll type it out as your being rather slow.

Ironstars voting seems very weak and he doesnt post anything of substance and Matti has said nothing of substance apart from a singular defense of Ironstar.

THAT seemed unusual, in 2 months the only thing of substance Matti has said is to defend a player I think is scum. Hes said he not even able to play and as Baz is doing nothing about it im voting him. Surely logic would imply to vote a scummy player not even contributing to the game.

I think a scum Nmillar would have targeted Noxoss and his erattic playstyle and convinced some of the other players to get him lynched.
Boy ! It's exactly what's happening right now :O
You, sir, are a Seer !
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N0x0ss: Do we really want ViolatorX to be lynched ?

I for one won't have his blood on my hands.
Not for this round at least.. Doesn't seem scummy to me.
But you'll gladly have NMillar's blood on your hands for what seem like flimsy reasons at best?