PoSSeSSeDCoW: You mean the way every single company sets up their service? It's not like Steam's some special case. If you have a game downloaded you can crack it (not piracy). If you don't and they revoke your account, then, yeah, you're SOL. But it's the same if you use GOG. You're in the clear if you have the installers backed up, but if you don't, it's piracy or nothing.

hedwards: No, it's not the same. I'm not aware of any other gaming service that will take an entire account away from somebody because of a CC transaction error.

Plus, you can't back them up and use them later on. For a few games you can do that, but for most you can't.

As for GOG, I'm not sure what service out there wouldn't require you to download the materials before your account is terminated. That's to be assumed, I'm not sure how a service would operate otherwise.

PoSSeSSeDCoW: I'm not having this discussion again.

Metro09: Ah, it wouldn't be a GoG Forum thread without:

1) Steam bashing; and
2) Regional Restriction QQ

Your work is complete, everyone, well done.

Metro09: The game is consolized but it doesn't show that badly because it is an ARPG. Combat is decent, graphics are decent, music is good, voice acting is decent, itemization seems good, talents/specialization seem okay.

The bad? Horrible camera. Mouse and Keyboard controls are awkward (surprise surprise). Annoying linear level design. I don't expect a huge amount of freedom in an ARPG but being forced to run along a narrow little track with maybe two or three dead end branches is pretty lame.

If this were a $20 digital download title I'd say it isn't bad. For a $50/$60 full title release I'd say it's a rip off.

El_Caz: Kinda funny how demos nowadays PUSH PEOPLE AWAY instead of convincing them to buy the game. No wonder some games don't bother with them anymore.

Metro09: The game is consolized but it doesn't show that badly because it is an ARPG. Combat is decent, graphics are decent, music is good, voice acting is decent, itemization seems good, talents/specialization seem okay.

The bad? Horrible camera. Mouse and Keyboard controls are awkward (surprise surprise). Annoying linear level design. I don't expect a huge amount of freedom in an ARPG but being forced to run along a narrow little track with maybe two or three dead end branches is pretty lame.

If this were a $20 digital download title I'd say it isn't bad. For a $50/$60 full title release I'd say it's a rip off.

Metro09: 2) Regional Restriction QQ

overread: Has anyone actually tried the demo yet? I think about two people have - the rest are whining about Steam ;)

Honestly when I saw the trailers I knew it wasn't going to be Dungeon Siege really - it looked very much like another game heading down the Diablo formula line. Heck we saw this start in Dungeon Siege 2 with its 4 person party size and now we are down to what I think is 1 person and maybe 1 more (I've not played the demo as yet).

If they can pull off a good hack and slash RPG it will be ok - not an insta buy, but maybe something to tide us over as we wait for Diablo3. The problem I find though, is that so many hack and slash RPGs have poor quests (Sacred I'm looking at you here!) a very very linear map and game play, with very little if no randomising; and sadly a lack of atmosphere (linear it was but the original Dungeon siege managed linear well for its age).

Most are "ok" but few really live up to the simple fun that was Diablo 2.

lukipela: The only reason the demo is pushing people away is because they are being childish. Yog already admitted he hates just about every game invented after 1980, so ignore him.