Well, Dungeon Siege is not the kind of game I´d not buy it paying the release price. Maybe one year later...

You do know you can turn off automatic updates for installed games, right?

yeah but it still wouldn't let me play till I patch it.

You can play singleplayer without patching just fine....if you try MP it autoupdates to keep users from using old versions to cheat, and also to prevent compatibility problems.

Downloading now. Hope it is at least somewhat entertaining. The feedback has not looked too positive.

*shrug* never worked that way for me.

Dungeon Siege was unique when it came out. Not very many RPG's had the same levelling scheme.

Dungeon Siege 2 is utter shit.

Dungeon Siege may have been unique, but that doesn't mean it was good. Personally I found the combat to be an awkward mix of hack&slash and tactical RPG that didn't work well at all.
Most people indeed felt Dungeon Siege 2 was a bad game when it came out.

So I wish people would stop saying Obsidian ruined DS. There was nothing to ruin, since it was a franchise killed by a bad sequel, like many others.

From what I've played of the demo, DS 3 seems like a standard Diablo-like with a consolized gameplay.
Not the kind of game I'm willing to spend 50$ on, even if Obsidian manages to give it a good story, which is 50/50 considering their track record.

How is Steam not an open platform for the consumer? You can go into game files, you can tweak games, it supports mods, it supports services with independent updates, it supports any and all controller options, etc. etc..

The way it is not an open platform is that is doesn't let people sell anything they want, but this is invisible to the consumer and does not effect the PC as a whole, you can still sell your game elsewhere or on your own site.

Don't get me wrong I dislike Steam for other reasons, mostly because they turn a boxed retail product purchase into a service contract (or attempt to anyway), but saying Steamworks games are not PC games? Saying Steamworks games are not on an open platform? Honestly, again, that is in the running for the dumbest thing I have ever read on the internet.

I couldn't agree more, i downloaded the demo last night. I was having a hard time with the controls, maybe im just an old fart. I might pick it up on a future steam sale.

played the demo, the controls are hard as hell, did not understand a thing in the game :O todays rpgs are either way too complex or crappy :X

Controls are definitely not to my liking. Looks visually dated too, especially compared to TW2.

I played it through last night also. It's a beautiful game, which Obsidian usually excels in. No bugs showed up, something they also excel in, but this is just a demo, after all.

The keystrokes for the abilities are very nonintuitive, though (hold space or shift then hit the number, hold space and double-right-click to dodge, etc, etc). If you can change the controls maybe they could be improved . . . if not, I'd end up making marcos on my G15 for them. The controls were really poorly designed.

The story is pretty ZZzzzz, and I'm coming to dislike these style of cutscenes. Isn't there any better way to illustrate them?

The swordsman is fine, and the Archon's flame abiities are pretty. Her combat is awkward, though - it looks like she's trying to do a dance move or ballet and not a real combat strike.

Does this game have a quest log or journal? Or a map? I couldn't access any of these in the demo.

I agree that this is really one game that Obsidian couldn't "ruin", as DS was pretty crap, anyway, IMO. I think they need to price this one right or it's gonna fail, but if sales are mediocre they'll have to do that anyway. Hopefully it'll be on sale for cheap fairly quickly.

were you able to change the controls? i could not find a option to do it, anyways probably wont be playing this game again

To people complain about controls I will say something again that I said earlier: this game needs to be played with a gamepad, preferably the 360 controller. It plays perfectly like that and was obviously designed for it. There is nothing evil about using a gamepad on the PC, it's been pretty common for 30 years now.

Also for those complaining about textures make sure to force 16xAF through your GPU's control panel. Despite having an AF toggle in-game it seems to do little, but with real AF forced on the game the textures look much better and more crisp, especially from afar.

I think the game is good and I'll be keeping my pre-order. They do need to put in keybind customizing for sure, but you should be playing with a controller anyway. Writing seems fine though maybe not up to Obsidian standards at times. Stempunk design is awesome.