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Posted June 07, 2011
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hedwards: You kind of have to admit that they earned their poor reputation. It's not like they're trying their best, they deliberately set up their rules in such a way that gives the consumer basically no recourse if they decide they want to take the games away other than piracy.
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PoSSeSSeDCoW: You mean the way every single company sets up their service? It's not like Steam's some special case. If you have a game downloaded you can crack it (not piracy). If you don't and they revoke your account, then, yeah, you're SOL. But it's the same if you use GOG. You're in the clear if you have the installers backed up, but if you don't, it's piracy or nothing.
No, it's not the same. I'm not aware of any other gaming service that will take an entire account away from somebody because of a CC transaction error.

Plus, you can't back them up and use them later on. For a few games you can do that, but for most you can't.

As for GOG, I'm not sure what service out there wouldn't require you to download the materials before your account is terminated. That's to be assumed, I'm not sure how a service would operate otherwise.
Posted June 07, 2011
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PoSSeSSeDCoW: You mean the way every single company sets up their service? It's not like Steam's some special case. If you have a game downloaded you can crack it (not piracy). If you don't and they revoke your account, then, yeah, you're SOL. But it's the same if you use GOG. You're in the clear if you have the installers backed up, but if you don't, it's piracy or nothing.
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hedwards: No, it's not the same. I'm not aware of any other gaming service that will take an entire account away from somebody because of a CC transaction error.

Plus, you can't back them up and use them later on. For a few games you can do that, but for most you can't.

As for GOG, I'm not sure what service out there wouldn't require you to download the materials before your account is terminated. That's to be assumed, I'm not sure how a service would operate otherwise.
I'm not having this discussion again.
Posted June 07, 2011
$50 to rent this game? Ill skip it.
Posted June 07, 2011
Ah, it wouldn't be a GoG Forum thread without:

1) Steam bashing; and
2) Regional Restriction QQ

Your work is complete, everyone, well done.
Posted June 07, 2011
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PoSSeSSeDCoW: I'm not having this discussion again.
Well, you kind of started it. I'm not sure why you bothered to post that at all.
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Metro09: Ah, it wouldn't be a GoG Forum thread without:

1) Steam bashing; and
2) Regional Restriction QQ

Your work is complete, everyone, well done.
It's traditional.
Post edited June 07, 2011 by hedwards
Posted June 07, 2011
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Metro09: The game is consolized but it doesn't show that badly because it is an ARPG. Combat is decent, graphics are decent, music is good, voice acting is decent, itemization seems good, talents/specialization seem okay.

The bad? Horrible camera. Mouse and Keyboard controls are awkward (surprise surprise). Annoying linear level design. I don't expect a huge amount of freedom in an ARPG but being forced to run along a narrow little track with maybe two or three dead end branches is pretty lame.

If this were a $20 digital download title I'd say it isn't bad. For a $50/$60 full title release I'd say it's a rip off.
The game seems good, but the whole linear argument is BS because that's almost basically how the first(and to a second extent the second game) played out.....go from point A to point B, maybe a bit of sidetracking tacked on but that's about it.
Posted June 08, 2011
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El_Caz: Kinda funny how demos nowadays PUSH PEOPLE AWAY instead of convincing them to buy the game. No wonder some games don't bother with them anymore.
The only reason the demo is pushing people away is because they are being childish. Yog already admitted he hates just about every game invented after 1980, so ignore him.
Posted June 08, 2011
I am drenched after all this circlejerking.
Posted June 08, 2011
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Metro09: The game is consolized but it doesn't show that badly because it is an ARPG. Combat is decent, graphics are decent, music is good, voice acting is decent, itemization seems good, talents/specialization seem okay.

The bad? Horrible camera. Mouse and Keyboard controls are awkward (surprise surprise). Annoying linear level design. I don't expect a huge amount of freedom in an ARPG but being forced to run along a narrow little track with maybe two or three dead end branches is pretty lame.

If this were a $20 digital download title I'd say it isn't bad. For a $50/$60 full title release I'd say it's a rip off.
I fully agree , played it for the length of the demo.
- Controls feel unnatural
- treasurehunting is rather overrated
- extremely dodgy camera view (certainly adds to the perception if you played the witcher)
- I get the feeling wanting to zoom out all of the time because the 'sov' is to narrow and to big.

i wont be buying this in the near future
Post edited June 08, 2011 by CyPhErIoN
Posted June 08, 2011
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Metro09: 2) Regional Restriction QQ
There are not complaints about regional restrictions. The game is NOT restricted. However, there is a huge fuck up by Valve right now where there's a problem with incorrect release dates showing and a missing purchase button preventing people from pre-ordering despite the game being sold in their region.

So far that issue has been confirmed in the UK, Australia and now Japan. If Valve actually managed their store with the same level of professionalism they put into their games, this issue wouldn't exist and people wouldn't have to complain about it.

I'll also point out that I pre-ordered this game on Steam months ago and can't wait to play it.
Posted June 08, 2011
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El_Caz: Kinda funny how demos nowadays PUSH PEOPLE AWAY instead of convincing them to buy the game. No wonder some games don't bother with them anymore.
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overread: Has anyone actually tried the demo yet? I think about two people have - the rest are whining about Steam ;)

Honestly when I saw the trailers I knew it wasn't going to be Dungeon Siege really - it looked very much like another game heading down the Diablo formula line. Heck we saw this start in Dungeon Siege 2 with its 4 person party size and now we are down to what I think is 1 person and maybe 1 more (I've not played the demo as yet).

If they can pull off a good hack and slash RPG it will be ok - not an insta buy, but maybe something to tide us over as we wait for Diablo3. The problem I find though, is that so many hack and slash RPGs have poor quests (Sacred I'm looking at you here!) a very very linear map and game play, with very little if no randomising; and sadly a lack of atmosphere (linear it was but the original Dungeon siege managed linear well for its age).

Most are "ok" but few really live up to the simple fun that was Diablo 2.
Yeah, I've played it twice on my 360, screw Steam.
Posted June 08, 2011
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El_Caz: Kinda funny how demos nowadays PUSH PEOPLE AWAY instead of convincing them to buy the game. No wonder some games don't bother with them anymore.
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lukipela: The only reason the demo is pushing people away is because they are being childish. Yog already admitted he hates just about every game invented after 1980, so ignore him.
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... right here buddy.
Posted June 08, 2011
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lukipela: The only reason the demo is pushing people away is because they are being childish. Yog already admitted he hates just about every game invented after 1980, so ignore him.
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Sogi-Ya: _|_ (^.^) _|_

... right here buddy.
Hehe. No hate intended. I just dont want someone to base their opinion on something on your opinion, since you do hate everything. Have you played Crysis 2 yet?
Posted June 08, 2011
nope, neither that or the first one(s). I would have, and actually wen't so far as to look into buying the Crysis 1 / warhead combo, but it's got Secu-rom so I'm holding off to see if the "EA origin" (I can't believe they are defiling that name ...the motherfuckers) version still has it or not. (I'm guessing it does).

I also repeatedly stated that I liked Dungeon Siege 2, but I'm guessing that you didn't read the whole thread before posting. for the record it's only "low quality" games that I despise, and as a further clarification on that it's the effort that goes into it that determines it's quality, not the game's marketing budget.
Posted June 08, 2011
hate to break it to you but you never actually own a game no matter where or how you purchase it. all you ever purchase is a licence.

so if this is your problem and the reason you refuse to accept Steam, you might as well stop playing pc games althogether.

besides, being a gamer should be about playing games. which games exactly are you still playing if you refuse the various DRM solutions employed nowadays? call yourself a PC gamer and don't play Valve games? L.O.L.
Post edited June 08, 2011 by Fred_DM
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