What was wrong with Armada, excluding the Human kids? I grew up with the show.

I like the more modernized designs of the Transformers. I feel Armada is reletively faithful to the original 80s cartoon.

the fucking human kids
the human kids
the human kids

the pokemon mindset
the fact that the mini cons cant talk and are no real characters of their own

and why should armada be faithfull to the 80's cartoon ?

each transformers iteration is its own thing
armada is standalone
and so is G1

and the G1 cartoon isnt exactly top quality either

Yes, the kids. If it wasn't for the who vehicle of shows people (kids) love to watch in order to convey commercials to them (and now more than ever on an internet that *used* to be ad-free), there might not be some really cool shows shown to the masses.

Why do you think they have channels called "Children's Programming Network"?

At least the designs of the Transformers were cool.

Megatron as tank is much more fitting than Luger Megatron :P
You know from what I realized based on Snowkatts opinion.

The whole Transformers franchise has always been shit :P

With the sole exception to Beast Wars :)

I rented a movie called Transformers and the plot could scarcely have had less to do with transformers. I've watched transformers cartoons, and they were generally about transformers.

Yeah, Thundercats were awesome... you couldn't get any less beast than that.

However, when it comes to vehicular transformation robot things, I think Voltron had them all beat. Not only was it several vehicles (the lions were my favorite) controlled by 'humans', but they turned into one giant ass-kicking robot with five brains.

Power Rangers was always the series with best transformations. I think that's undisputable.

what exactly has that got to do with what i said ?

a repurposed go lion toy
and the tv series was go lion and dairuggerXV edited together
megatron as a tank is from G2
and he has been a gun ( a walther pk not a luger ) in G1

and i am a tranformers fan
i just dont like most of the cartoons

i generally lean more to the comics

oh and http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Ruined_FOREVER

transformers fans are never ever EVER happy
nor wil they EVER agree

Yes, some, even if I've never been a super fan.
It probably was one of the best western animated series in the 80', but.. there weren't exactly masterpieces.
Anime was starting to kick ass :P

western animated ?
the studios that did the animation were located in japan taiwan and phillipines

Oh really?? LOL, then the western television cartoons really had no chance XD
(ok well, excluding Disney's shorts)

Everything ever done good in books and comics has never, ever been done justifiably in the eyes of moviegoers who have read/seen them. At least Peter Jackson (also of "Bad Taste" fame) managed to pull off a very palatable first run on "Lord of the Rings".

BTW, if you can wash the afflecktion out of your mouth, the series of Daredevil they have on Netflix (without Ben Affleck) is an awesome watch.

I also saw a preview of a show called "Mr. Robot" which is going to be freaking awesome.
I pulled Disney's shorts down in High School. J/K. :)
Yeah, they showed animated films over here in the west (cartoons) while interspersing them with subliminal advertisement (subliminal to the parents) targeting breakfast cereal and children's toys to those watching the cartoons. We used to get those cereals and toys until the parents caught onto their ruse.

the series was produced and written in the usa but the actual animation is done by japanese ( toei toky movie shinsa ) a phillipino studio and south korea not taiwan ( akom)
the transformers cartoons movies and comics are usually stand alone
all they have in common are the fact that they are called transformers and have transformers in them

thats all
none of them are an adaption of each other
they are all stand alone continuities

..mostly anyway

explaining it more will make your head spin

Not really, the US has had the longest and most distinguished history of animation. The foreign stuff is mostly of lower quality.

Even the "low quality" stuff like Hana Barbera is better than most of the foreign stuff. And that's not even countng the really good stuff like what the Warner Brothers was releasing during the golden age.

As far as the studios go, those are more recent and usually it's not accurate to call them Japanese, Taiwanese or Philipino as they're being directed by foreigners.

^ http://tfwiki.net/wiki/AKOM

and
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Tokyo_Movie_Shinsha

and

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Toei

toei and akom are repsonsible for the G1 cartoon animation

we can blame studio a-cat and actas inc for energons "animation"
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Studio_A-CAT

oh and i didnt pull the phillipino studio out of my arse
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unknown_Filipino_animation_studio

we just dont know who they are or if they for that matter exist >.>