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Posted June 27, 2015
Not to mention they get worse as they go from one movie to another. On a positive note, I actually managed to enjoy watching Transformers 3 earlier this year when I was sick and felt utterly abysmal. Don't get me wrong. The film is still utter tripe, but it was just mindless enough glitz and whizbang to get my mind off of things.
Posted June 27, 2015
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mistermumbles: Not to mention they get worse as they go from one movie to another. On a positive note, I actually managed to enjoy watching Transformers 3 earlier this year when I was sick and felt utterly abysmal. Don't get me wrong. The film is still utter tripe, but it was just mindless enough glitz and whizbang to get my mind off of things.
Now that's a good review! Usually a swift kick to the junk would get my mind off of things, but you've been through so much it only took that movie to do it.
Posted June 27, 2015
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JDelekto: Snarf was to the Thundercats like JarJar was to StarWars. WTF did people thing they needed some annoying little crap in our already perfect cartoons?
for "humor" never mind if thats funny or not
and to rope in the younger kids by giving them a character they can latch on to

for transformers its the human identifying character

but i never watched transformers to be enthralled by spike or daniel and their "adventures" but to see giant robot aliens knocking the hell out of each other
even as a kid i hated daniel
Posted June 27, 2015
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JDelekto: Snarf was to the Thundercats like JarJar was to StarWars. WTF did people thing they needed some annoying little crap in our already perfect cartoons?
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snowkatt: for "humor" never mind if thats funny or not
and to rope in the younger kids by giving them a character they can latch on to

for transformers its the human identifying character

but i never watched transformers to be enthralled by spike or daniel and their "adventures" but to see giant robot aliens knocking the hell out of each other
even as a kid i hated daniel
You've explained a few sequels now, like when they introduced that kid into Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.

BTW, did you ever see the movie "The Explorers"?
Posted June 27, 2015
They take away from the movie, and in the case of Bayformers, litter the movie with useless trash.
Posted June 27, 2015
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Darvond: They take away from the movie, and in the case of Bayformers, litter the movie with useless trash.
Seriously, how many movies have you seen these days where all the best parts are actually in the trailers?
Posted June 27, 2015
There are a lot of things wrong with the transformer movies and the human characters are not a big deal in comparison.

*Stupid transformers as side characters
*Incredibly bad cinematography during fightscenes
*There is actually no redeeming qualities in the second one

TBH I haven't seen 3 (I think) and 4 (certain) after the trainwreck that was the second one. I did like the first one a bit but the cinematography of the fightscenes really really disappointed me.
Posted June 27, 2015
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xxxIndyxxx: There are a lot of things wrong with the transformer movies and the human characters are not a big deal in comparison.

*Stupid transformers as side characters
*Incredibly bad cinematography during fightscenes
*There is actually no redeeming qualities in the second one

TBH I haven't seen 3 (I think) and 4 (certain) after the trainwreck that was the second one. I did like the first one a bit but the cinematography of the fightscenes really really disappointed me.
a perfect recipe for a potboiler to make money off of prior success and/or failure... and?
Posted June 27, 2015
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xxxIndyxxx: *There is actually no redeeming qualities in the second one
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great special effects
and the movie handeld the pretenders right http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Pretenders

...not saying much

in my opinion 4 is the best but its still not exactly a great movie its just the least worst
Posted June 27, 2015
I saw the topic title and I just knew this would be a Fongo topic.
Posted June 27, 2015
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mechmouse: Yep the movies where about the "human" story of a world that has the Transformers in it.

The last movie was beyond awful. They just gave up on figuting out the transformation sequence and replaced it with lots of shiney cubes.
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snowkatt: that only happend with "galvatron"
and that transformation sequence has precedent

in the G2 comic th transformation was portrayed as a flash with a lot of loose parts
and in beast machine the transformation was also done in a light flash
It happened with all the Human created transformers, and the whole transformium plot line is horrible. In the first movie they decided against mass shifting because it looked daft, they took great care in the detail of the transformation and robot design. You could see the origin of the parts of the robot forms. Even then they had no continuity on how they transformed, and flanged parts coming from no-where.

Number four, they just didn't bother. The parts that made Prime's curved samuri design had little reflection on his Truck form. Same for all the new transformers they added. The metal became much more rubbery and flesh like.

And they killed off all my Favourite transformers (Jazz, JetFire and Wheeljack (renamed IQ for the film).

Yes I remember "The Explorers". Saw it on netflix recently, will have to watch it again when I get some time.

Number 2 did handle the Prentenders well, would have liked to see more of that being used.

A big issue I had with the first film was it was so Human orientated, most of the robot fight scenes where shot at human level. Big robot fighting was reduced to seeing a pair of robot feet run past. At least the other films had the camera high enough to see the robots.
Post edited June 27, 2015 by mechmouse
Posted June 27, 2015
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tinyE: Because those human characters are played by people like Shia LaBeouf and Megan Fox. :P It's like they got together and thought, "How many self righteous pricks can we fit into one movie?" :P
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Gandos: Honestly, I think Shia LaBeouf gets a lot more flak than he deserves. It isn't really his fault that he often ends up being in controversial movies with terrible scripts (though it is kind of odd how often he's been selected to play in revivals/sequels to old movie series). When he has had something good to work with, he's actually proven himself to be a genuinely talented actor.
Harrison Ford did call him, and I'm quoting here, "A fucking idiot."

The death blow for me came when he announced he was tired of being famous and tired of the spotlight, and then showed up at a red carpet event in a tux with a paper bag on his head that said 'Don't take my picture'. Way to remove yourself from the spotlight. :P
Posted June 27, 2015
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Smannesman: I saw the topic title and I just knew this would be a Fongo topic.
What can I say I am trying to compete with TinyE
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hedwards: Because it's called "transformers" not "Puny Humans."

I refused to watch any of the movies after the first one turned out to be a BS movie about humans that just happened to have some transformers. Apart from the last 30 minutes that were just transformers, the rest of the movie was terrible.
Did you watch the old cartoons I mentioned?
Post edited June 27, 2015 by Elmofongo
Posted June 27, 2015
Mostly because 70% of these overlong shitfests is god-awful comedy with unlikeable characters and only 30% is actually about Transformers. Admittedly, those last 30% also suck, since the action scenes are terrible.

The problem isn't that they do the same thing as the old versions, but that they do it very, very poorly.
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tinyE: The death blow for me came when he announced he was tired of being famous and tired of the spotlight, and then showed up at a red carpet event in a tux with a paper bag on his head that said 'Don't take my picture'. Way to remove yourself from the spotlight. :P
Didn't the paper bag say "I'm not famous anymore", or did he pull that shit twice?
Post edited June 27, 2015 by InfraSuperman
Posted June 27, 2015
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InfraSuperman: Mostly because 70% of these overlong shitfests is god-awful comedy with unlikeable characters and only 30% is actually about Transformers. Admittedly, those last 30% also suck, since the action scenes are terrible.

The problem isn't that they do the same thing as the old versions, but that they do it very, very poorly.
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tinyE: The death blow for me came when he announced he was tired of being famous and tired of the spotlight, and then showed up at a red carpet event in a tux with a paper bag on his head that said 'Don't take my picture'. Way to remove yourself from the spotlight. :P
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InfraSuperman: Didn't the paper bag say "I'm not famous anymore", or did he pull that shit twice?
Maybe that's what it said. :P Also if he shows up one more time the week after his movie tanks and says, "I knew while we were filming that this was going to be terrible" I'm gonna fucking kill him. :P
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