I was referring to non-steam games on GG, tho did not express this properly. So what really baffles me are the drm-free, non-steam games which are sold as direct downloads, there are some nice games in there which I think would be cool to have on GOG, but we don't have them. Nothing triple A, but nice games nonetheless. Take for example The Experiment 112, which would be cool, and then also pretty bad games like Mission in Asia. My problem there: Sometimes I really enjoy bad games :)

I was going to say Alpha Protocol, since it was available DRM-free there in the past, but apparantly it isn't any longer ...

In this regard, the popular Carpe Fulgur published games come to mind: Fortune Summoners, Recettear, Chantelise. Maybe for the games you mentioned they don't see much potential for sales, but I can't imagine that the Carpe Fulgur games wouldn't sell here.

Gamersgate switched to providing Steam keys instead of DRM-free installers for a lot of their games some time ago. They even went so far as to replace the DRM-free installers/keys with Steam keys in your library. One of the reasons I rarely even look at them anymore, although I'm not certain if they may have backtracked on that a bit.

In this case it seems like they lost the right to sell the game entirely though. From what I see they don't even have Steam keys.

I hadn't heard of DRM-free installers being replaced with Steam codes. Can you name games that were affected by this?

Unfortunately I can't. And it's entirely anecdotal and not from personal experience, so take it with a grain of salt. I'd kind of moved away from GG before this happened anyway, but reading about this replacement of Steam keys just solidified my decision to not much bother with them anymore. I'd long since DLed all my games from them and just never really bothered going back to shopping there. What I personally think really happened here though, was they just switched the games offered to Steam keys and no longer offered DRM-free versions for many of the games. The replacement in one's account was likely hyperbole. Either way though, I just decided I was done shopping there. Probably shouldn't have even mentioned it, since I don't know the full details. Sorry about that.

When I get home, I could log in and see if any of my games have Steam key replacements though. Might be worth it just out of curiosity (if I can find my login details...)

*edit8 You know what occurred to me? I seemed to remember reading about this here on the GOG forums. Found the thread in the archives: https://www.gog.com/forum/general_archive/gamersgate_wtf_is_going_on/page1

Seems it wasn't hyperbole after all. There are some forum members in that thread whom I trust that reported this happening to them. So I guess GG really did that.

*edit* Okay, last edit. I think we're both getting senile, Leroux, because we both posted multiple times in that thread! LOL.

I don;t see this mentioned so.... Steam also has thousands of games that are considered shovelware as it developers push them out as quickly as possible without giving much thought of the game.

Example article: https://www.polygon.com/2017/9/26/16368178/steam-shovelware-removed-asset-flipping

At least with GoG they list games that many gamers are wanting to play.

Personally, I'm not really interested in checking every single store to maybe save a dollar or two, so Steam sales are good enough for me.

As for devs, I'm only interested in supporting devs that give DRM-free versions, and since I also want to support GOG, the only devs I buy directly from are those rare cases where they don't have DRM on their games and yet couldn't get into GOG for some reason (most likely the ridiculous curation process).

I've had that happen to several of my games, but in their defence they only seem to do it when the developer has stopped supporting the DRM-free version while still providing updates for the Steam version, like Crusader Kings 2.

... Who are you again? XD

But... the site's called "Good Old Games". Real talk, GOG has a much smaller userbase than Steam does, that combined with the whole DRM-Free policy that they've got going keeps a lot of the big wigs from tossing their hats into the ring. Neither side gets substantial benefits from getting bigger games on GOG and publishers try to avoid DRM-Free gaming nowadays because they view it as easy access for pirates.

Fixed :)

As much as GOG wants to get rid of its old moniker, it will still haunt it for many years to come.

One pertinent issue is that most companies are discovering how lucrative having your own digital store-front is. Now you may ask, why release on Steam then? That's because that is where a massive majority of PC gamers are. But those who can, large publishers with confidence like EA for example, lock their games to their own store.

GOG has a nice-sized gamer base for an alternative store-front, but they are not near massive majority status yet, and thus this makes releasing here optional.

Not to worry, GOG on their own are doing their best to negotiate Triple AAA (and indie) releases to their store. In the "trip to the headquarters" thread, GOG mentioned that they doing well, but that their market-share needs to grow more for publishers/developers to want to release Triple AAA games on Day 1, for example.

So, one thing that can be done is to continue buying other games on GOG here when you can. It all adds up to seeing the Triple AAA releases you want here!

That isn't true at all (aside from GOG's market share being obviously smaller then Steam's). Here is some data from the "Trip to the HQ" thread. These are given by GOG themselves, late 2017.

To quote JMich:
1) Economy: Financially, CD Projekt Group is doing very well. GOG is not in any kind of danger and shouldn't be for the foreseeable future.
3) Market share: GOG is currently at a decent position (we did get numbers but we can't disclose them). They are not irrelevant but they also need to grow for more publishers to be invested in bringing DRM-free titles day 1 on GOG and assure updates the same time Steam is updated.

https://www.gog.com/forum/general/6_community_members_went_to_gog_hq

Even if GOG gets more "AAA" games it will likely be after they've been on the market a bit, like that knight one they just announced. Publishers are NOT willing to risk DRM free on day one, especially when they're getting good at delaying pirated copies being available.

I've said before DRM wouldn't bother me if they just patched it out once it was cracked, but no publisher does so.

Okay just to clarify something:

I wasn't saying GOG has no market share. I was saying that compared to the industry standard, which like it or not is Steam, GOG has a "pretty small market share"

Also I see people leaving the GOG forums over the years, and not as many people replacing them. The forum has a ton of lurkers, not a lot of original posters, and people posting in the wrong forums constantly. It makes it hard to judge just how popular GOG actually is.

Saying that, I would definitely say that it seems like GOG's got gas left in the tank, but that it missed some opportunity over the past couple of years. That's all I was trying to say previously.