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u2jedi: By all indications this will be the end of what passes as Rocksteady studios. Another one bites the dust.
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kai2: Yeah, the reviews are Savage.
Just sayin, i'm looking at the steam page right now . . .

One of the negative pre - reviews

[i]5.5/10

The writing and story is mediocre at best and disrespectful to source material at worst.

The combat is good, the movement needs tweaking, but otherwise it's a fun arcade-y third person looter shooter.

Gameplay loop is repetitive and tedious. Go here, escort/kill/protect/destroy, cutscene, repeat - sometimes they throw in modifiers like "grenades only" or "crit damage only)

The graphics are good, the music is good, the performances are really good despite the bad writing given to them.

Another money grab live service game, not worth the 70-100+usd price tag. You can buy better looter shooters for half the price[/i]

one negative review

runs like complete tits and ass.. I love the combat and the story is entertaining but I have been playing for 8 hours straight and the real challenge is the fps. The optimization on release is SO bad.. the fps is absolutely awful and every single graphics setting will not fix it.. I just wanna enjoy the game without it only being a stable 36 fps! The worst part is there are micro transactions in this 70 DOLLAR game. With the option to spend 100 DOLLARS for some random items that are not even worth it.. Why do I have to continue spending money to get all the content even though I payed full price and extra??! I love rocksteady with my life because the arkham series was absolutely amazing. I love that we get to play as multiple characters in this game that is my favorite and what brought me in. But this is completely different than what everyone was expecting.. This game runs worse that gotham knights and this game works alot like gotham knights! With the elements and upgrades with the weapons and gadgets. Not like the normal upgrading like in the arkham games where it was kept minimal and not the whole entire game. But this game has ALOT of upgrades. I like the skill tree's abilities with the flashy effects and stuff because It adds alot of style to the combat and I enjoy that. This game can definitely better and rocksteady can do better. I love them so much and everyone was right that another arkham game would of been the best choice. But I do love playing as harley so maybe this was good enough?


another one

[i]The most disappointing game I've played in the last couple years..

Gameplay got repetitive only a few hours in

The boss fights were an absolute joke

Battlepass and insanely overpriced cosmetics in a $70 game

PC port is terribly optimized, I have a Ryzen 5600x and a 4070TI but still couldn't get stable 60 fps on any settings (meanwhile I played both Cyberpunk and Alan Wake 2 maxed out with Path tracing no problem)

and the writing... my god they dropped the ball hard. To their credit the story had a somewhat interesting start, and the cast did an excellent job with the voice acting throughout the game, but the constant jokes every 2 seconds and the way the writers treated the justice league had me so incredibly dumbfounded I have no idea who thought this was a good idea..

Can't believe Rocksteady made this game[/i]


and to end , another pre release

[i]From the creators of Batman: Arkham, Suicide Squad: Kill the Arkhamverse is a genre-conforming third-person action shooter where the ultimate band of 4 useless douchebags must do the impossible: Kill the beloved franchise.

The following story section contains SPOILERS

Truth be told, the caption was for the purpose of memeifying, IYKYK. It became highly controversial in a short span of time, and perhaps didn't born under a bright star in the first place. In no way would I think the late Kevin Conroy is disrespected. It's a retrospective thinking given his unfortunate passing. He had volition, and he accepted the role, imaginably knowing the script beforehand. I respect his autonomy and his ultimate decision, but I still do think it was a character assassination to Bruce Wayne. Getting killed off by a juggalo groupie before listening to a morale lecture from Harley Quinn, who can never have a moral high ground over the symbol of sheer will. You might want to read that scene about more 'winning' than morals though. Still, there is a clear tonal dissonance between the previous Arkham Trilogy/Franchise and Suicide Squad. Unlike Arkham, there's not much morale or gravitas. It's your typical 'beloved superheroes gone mad/bad' bs which is not something I am fond of. A lot of trouble could have been easily avoided if they switched the roles of WW and Batman. I am pretty sure Rocksteady knew Batman would have fixation set on him after we played almost a decade with him. SS does not only dissapoint Batman but all the members of the JL, perhaps the slight exclusion of Wonder Woman, who was the only one uncorrupt at that time, killing them off in uncreative, anticlimactic ways. In all fairness, I do get SS are a bunch of trash persons, and certainly, the game is self-aware. All the voice actors did an incredible job. They are portrayed faithful to their comic book counterparts (albeit probably a bit closer to DCEU), and they are incredibly self-centered. They even try to run off before inevitably failing to do so. While the game tries to give a backstory to each character, especially by creating a personal beef between them and the members of JL, it ultimately fails. The story is overcooked with bunch of armor plots and plot devices, and winks to the multiverse, another pain in the ass concept. It's a way to reintroduce Joker and the upcoming chars, but don't get surprised if JL is back (ehm, datamined voice lines) or the story is changed up to a point where it'd be almost recognizable or simply retconned. I don't like the idea of progressing the story with each season. It's a risky decision to take. The game might die as well soon enough therefore the plans get shelved. Btw, the game also disservices its own protagonist; Deadshot. He's still a serviceable character. But introducing him as the 'real' Deadshot not only ♥♥♥♥♥ with all the people who loved the representation of the his alleged doppelganger by turning him into a goof but also made the Clown Prince of Crime look like a dork. Arkhamverse's Joker is extremely intelligent; wouldn't you think under the Black Mask moniker he already ran an extensive background research on the very assassins he hired himself? The story is often undeniably lame-ass. The humor is sometimes on point and just nails it, and sometimes it's at best on MCU level and comes off as unnecessarily edgy. The suspense is usually hard to keep. That is why this should have been completely an Elseworlds story given the fact each season will be adding one after all.



Gameplay & Traversal

For some people, this will be the ultimate factor that truly matters. Traversal is GOATed in this game. It's akin to Sunset Overdrive and allows you to lose yourself in flow. Each character is quite agile and has unique aspects to them. Traversal not only plays a huge factor in exploration but also in moment-to-moment gameplay as it lets you create unique chains of combos and not lose any momentarily heat from action. Solid pacing. You can switch your character at will almost instantly and some characters will be psyched up meaning if you play certain missions with them you'll be granted with bonus exp and loot, a great way to encourage player to test out & play as the other characters. You can pause the game at pretty much any given time. Offline play is desperetely needed sometime soon.

Gunplay is not the absolute beast but is solid and competent enough compared to ones like Borderlands or Outriders. You have traversal attacks that play like your 'ultimate.' These attacks aid you in clearing large groups efficiently and look pretty cool. Some attacks need to be countered, requiring you to time your attack and a shield system precisely aim at certain points (e.g. legs) & melee to break shield and harvest. The game's reliance on shields heavily reminds me of Borderlands, as you are quite fragile without them. There are shield mods, a variety of weapons, etc., to be found, and while it follows the traditional looter-shooter formula, it rewards you legendary stuff rather quickly. Yes, you'll keep grinding for better gear; however, it doesn't make it overly painful, which is a rare sight to behold. At the end of the day, it's still an engagement-based product; however, it is more pro-consumer. Battle passes do not expire, and you can work on whichever you like the best, even aftera season's end. Bad marketing of the game caused lots of confusion, I'd suggest to keep up with the Q&A team on Discord.

Mission & World Design

Missions are apples and oranges. Bunch of them are your generic open-world activities that you must bear through to progress the story, highly repetitive in nature while the others are actual story missions with top notch cinematic story presentation. Open-world activities and side stuff consist of generic tasks like holding off enemies in waves or killing X number of enemies, and so forth. However, since the gameplay loop is often addictive, you are most likely not going to mind doing these. Yet, it still fells flat and leave a lot to be desired.

Metropolis is dead. I mean, how could it not be? Invaded, turned into the goons of Brainiac, if not vaporized. Might not be the most vivid and alive version of Metropolis you could ever have, but Arkham was not too different, being mostly occupied by mobsters and thugs. The map is highly vertical, much like the Arkham games. You'll be running through walls of buildings and jumping off from rooftops for the most of time.



lol server overload. . . sorry gog
Post edited February 03, 2024 by Zimerius
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amok: i really dont care.... the game looks good, it is clear, the characters are distinct, it is colorful, it is fluid.
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Hurricane0440: Does it really look good, though? Even if I judge it on its own merit, I still find the graphics and visual style lacking. The colors used are often bland, there is very little detail in many of the environments and the UI is extremely cluttered to the point it's annoying.
yes, yes it is.

as already mentioned, the UI is cluttered, nd tthe amout of numbers on the screen is at time ludicrious. so leaving that asaide.

but the city is welll defined, long draw distance, good details, colourful grpahics. characters are detailed, good animations. The characters have good recognisable silhouettes and are well defined. The visual effects are good and reflecting the actions. and so on

what is lacking is personality in creature design, but that is due to a lack of variation.

edit - there is soooo many points to criticise this game on, I do not think graphics is one of them, though. but its like - everything has to be bad!

edit 2 - keep also in mind that "good graphics" =/= hyper-realism. the thing to judge graphics on is fit for purpose. if not, then all games would just look the same
Post edited February 03, 2024 by amok
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rtcvb32: I'll say Gaming peaked about 10 years ago.
Sounds about right. If I had to pick between never playing games from before 2015 or after 2015 it would be absolutely no contest.
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amok: edit - there is soooo many points to criticise this game on, I do not think graphics is one of them, though. but its like - everything has to be bad!

edit 2 - keep also in mind that "good graphics" =/= hyper-realism. the thing to judge graphics on is fit for purpose. if not, then all games would just look the same
Please don't assume that I am criticizing the game just for the sake of doing so. I understand that you like how it looks, but I don't. After all, how good a game looks is something very subjective and can vary for each person.

I had an issue with it ever since I saw the launch trailer and, although it has considerably improved since then, it still fails to appeal to me visually after watching quite a few reviews and gameplay footage. Let's just agree to disagree instead.
Post edited February 03, 2024 by Hurricane0440
Falcon from Gameranx has a good video on whay is wrong with this game - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=josS7aug2Ek
Post edited February 03, 2024 by amok
I've been keeping out of the modern game controversy, but who in their right mind would voluntarily name their company Sweet Baby Inc? That name drips paedophilia, child trafficking, etc.
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mk47at: who in their right mind would voluntarily name their company Sweet Baby Inc?
That name drips paedophilia, child trafficking, etc.
Maybe for you...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6AHjroSkfM&ab_channel=StanleyClarkeVEVO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeiSE9Jn9wE&ab_channel=MacyGrayVEVO

https://www.grillardor.de/Sweet-Baby-Rays-Sweetn-Spicy

https://www.kleverhof.de/Tomatensaatgut-Sweet-Baby/SW11296

https://sweetbaby-shop.de/de/
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BreOl72: […]
A shop for baby stuff is something completely different. And there are very weird songs, so that does not make it any better, e.g. Sweet Caroline which is repeated ad nauseam in England which seems very questionable with the “touching you” since it is supposed to be about Caroline Kennedy as a 9 year old girl.
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mk47at: I've been keeping out of the modern game controversy, but who in their right mind would voluntarily name their company Sweet Baby Inc? That name drips paedophilia, child trafficking, etc.
Probably the same type of company that would call their company Daddy Go or something. (Webhosting).
... and the people who think "Baby, it's cold outside" is about the man trying to rape the woman.
There's always people seeing potential ghosts.
(and Diamond gave to very different explanations for who the song was based on. It could as well be that one was misinterpreted and was only about the name)

Anyway, to the original thread question: The game is some service garbage I am not interested in.
Post edited February 03, 2024 by neumi5694
This game should be a HARD PASS for everyone who likes Batman.

Harley killing Batman in the most disrespectful way and then her picking up Batman, hauling him over her shoulder and carrying him is completely outrageous.

The four proteges of Batman could not take him but these four idiots from suicide squad defeat him without a scratch ??

King Shark kills green lantern and then just wears his super powered ring ?? Doesn't the ring fly off once the owner is killed to find another WORTHY and NOBLE person.

Big middle finger to Rocksteady and their woke writers who butchered the DC lore.
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sasuke12: This game should be a HARD PASS for everyone who likes Batman.

Harley killing Batman in the most disrespectful way and then her picking up Batman, hauling him over her shoulder and carrying him is completely outrageous.

The four proteges of Batman could not take him but these four idiots from suicide squad defeat him without a scratch ??

King Shark kills green lantern and then just wears his super powered ring ?? Doesn't the ring fly off once the owner is killed to find another WORTHY and NOBLE person.
Remember that time Green Arrow, you know, a goddamn hero, used a green lantern ring to make and shoot a single arrow and it hurt him like hell and exhausted him almost completely? So yeah, lets have a dumb C-tier villain go mad with power using it no problem. **** this ****.

It's downright fascinating the choices they made in this game. I mean the scenario of playing villains killing the League could at least have had some sense if they went with villains the calibre of Luthor, Sinestro, Black Adam, like that old trailer for DCU Online. When that thing hit, people not only weren't upset, they were applauding it, demanding it be turned into a whole movie.

And now this game made pretty much every imaginable wrong choice to tell that story. It's almost like they did it on purpose, like it's impossible to get every single thing quite so wrong without meticulously planning it out.
Post edited February 04, 2024 by Breja
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amok: i really dont care.... the game looks good, it is clear, the characters are distinct, it is colorful, it is fluid.
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Hurricane0440: Does it really look good, though? Even if I judge it on its own merit, I still find the graphics and visual style lacking. The colors used are often bland, there is very little detail in many of the environments and the UI is extremely cluttered to the point it's annoying.
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kai2: Guess that Superman game will probably never release
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Hurricane0440: According to what I heard, Suicide Squad was the game they were working on from the start. There never was any other Superman game.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/rocksteady-never-worked-on-a-superman-game-according-to-report/1100-6520319/
Too bad. That was the one thing from Rocksteady that I would have wanted to play.
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Breja: And now this game made pretty much every imaginable wrong choice to tell that story. It's almost like they did it on purpose...
They did.
Post edited February 04, 2024 by kai2
I like it for the most part. The game mechanics are pretty fun. Metropolis is really well done. Kinda makes me salty about not having a Superman game. It's a third person shooter which is a genre I am into.

The game's biggest problem is with the story. The enemy should have been anything that wasn't the Justice League. Have you played Injustice 2? The story is comparable to that, if you want a ball park estimate of what it's like. The likes of Harley, Deadshot, or Captain Boomerang being able to take down Superman irks me. I was willing to put that aside for Injustice 2, as it had the excuse of being a competitive fighting game.

It also has some anti-cheat thing before the game boots up. There's no PvP or competition of any sort, so I don't see what the point of that is.
woke shit and gaas.

rocksteady it's not the same.