Perhaps, yet it still seems to add up that Valve and Bethesda together are taking the lion's share... The value really should be inverted, where the mod-maker should get 75%-90% for their work.

But i'm sure my ideas of what's fair is old fashioned...

yay money money bloody money, give hungry bastards more money

With the slight difference that these skins (be it in CS:GO or TF2) are complete. They are done, finished products, sold in the official ingame store. I think this is a huge difference.

I've already seen a monetized Skyrim mod which isn't even finished yet. So what do we have now? Early Access mods, without a guarantee to work with my other mods. I think it says you have a 24 hour refund window. That's just not enough for what we are working with here, since many problems, depending on how severe they are, might occur later than that. This whole system is a filthy joke and I despise any modder who uses it. Donations are fine and they have worked before and they still do on Nexus. Should've stuck to that.

PS: 75% of the money goes to Valve/Bethesda anyway. It's ludicrous. I also doubt it's completely legal what the modders are doing if they use (for example) SKSE, which isn't their own work.

This is an absolutely horrible decision. The modding community for Bethesda games is an amazing, collaborative group, yet this attempt to monetize mods almost seems designed to bring out the worst in people. Many mods build off other mods, re-use arts assets (models/textures) modders have made, re-use scripts other modders have developed, and so on. When the mods were free none of this was much of an issue- there was the occasional ego flare-up, but most people took a very open, sharing attitude to everything. Add in a monetary component, though, and what has been standard and accepted behavior for the modding community could suddenly become quite ugly. This is what bothers me most about all this, not simply the charging for mods (it's easy enough for me to just say "fuck it" and not buy any mods), but the reckless potential of this decision to tear apart one of the most amazing modding communities gaming has ever seen.

The same could be said for 'pro' gaming, and the score of youtubers making a living off gaming these days. Monetization of gaming has been happening for a long time, and as a result, some people make careers out of their hobbies. That's not necessarily a bad thing.

This change however, it's going to be bad for a while before we see any possible good out of it probably. I'm hoping we do, though I have a hard time imagining mods worth buying for me. I wouldn't be surprised if the 'value' of mods is going to end up pretty close to the minimum for most mods.

FIXING BUGS IS EXPENSIVE, HARD WORK! LET'S CHARGE FOR PATCHES!

And this is why I don't believe any company is above doing something stupid.

Paying for mods? Come on...:/

Yes every now and then I see people commenting like this game is great, it have steam workshop!
I wonder if these people are happy now. Monopoly is always bad.

I hope this trend fail, because if it is profitable, I can see how companies will strive to shut down free mods sites like nexus and convert more paid mods. The excuse is easy, copyright infringement like what's happening to youtube.

This is the last straw on the horse's back for me, with Steam. From now on, if a dev doesn't sell their game DRM free, I will not be buying it.

Damn the mods pack are more expensive than the game itself

Let's not forget TB is the guy that came to the defence of Microsoft's original always-online DRM for the Xbox One, while everyone else was against it. Amidst the outcry against DRM and the killing of used game sales for consoles, TB came to the rescue of Don Mattrick, with the argument of used games hurting game companies, ignoring the fact that gamers use proceeds from used (previously played) games to buy newer games, and not taking the side of consumers. Once again, TB defends money and greed, which is no surprise to anyone.

TB isn't even a gamer. He's a tech-enthusiast and non-gaming casual that doesn't do reviews because god-forbid that would necessitate playing through a game, so he just does 'first impressions' where he can comment on menu sliders and talk about tech/graphics specs, then turn off that shit and go back to his real life.

It seems i will be using GOG a lot more often.

You didn't even watch his video I assume?

I suppose the days of trusting modders to fix the inherent bugs in TES and other large-and-buggy franchises for free is drawing to a close, then. Ugly stuff. If this is the way things are going to be, though, mod creators only getting 25% is disgusting. If people are going to pretend this is good for the little guys to help fund their efforts, they'd better walk the walk and go to bat for these people getting a more reasonable slice.