NO, I'm not, Unlike you I don't cry when harsh words are used or foul language. You seem more butthurt by the fact I question GOG curation decision you seem to make more excuses that it's the other sides fault and that GOG is a saint.
You must be scared that GOG might go bankrupt which is more likely with their curation system driving people away with their selected hipster garbage.

FACT: Grimoire released exclusively on Steam Aug 4, 2017...
FACT: Cleve claims GoG has been hounding him about it for years to get it on their store...
FACT: Cleve didn't submit it to GOG until late last year at the earliest by his own admission...
FACT: Only 67% of Steam users rate it "Recommended"
FACT: That result puts it in the "Mixed" category and as one of the bottom third games on Steam...
FACT: 1 review in June for this year and a half old game; 4 in May; 3 in April
FACT: Of the "whopping" 8 reviews of this highly in demand game since April, 5 have been Positive and 3 have been Negative or 62.5% showing that this game has not really improved in people's eyes since it's release.

You seem to be incapable of distinguishing the difference between actual FACTS and your silly fiction.

Clearly this game is not worthy of GoG...

And tell me, moron. What does that have to do with just releasing the game here other than making excuses for GOG's rejection? Your whole argument is nothing more than an excuse for GOG's rejection, You're like the biggest apologist I seen here for them to reject a game. The whole point is getting the game here regardless of what Cleve said or did it's just about getting a game released and all your whining on about is this are these excuses cause you feel so while GOG has yet to give a valid reason for the rejection other than the same generic ''Too Niche'' which is what they did with a dozen games. You seem to have more personal things against Cleve than caring for a game to be released.

Your not the majority and neither do you speak for other users that want it released here. If you don't like it fine but don't make excuses for GOG why it's not released when they don't even make a statement about it.

Fact: your butthurt that people do wanna buy and play the game here.
Fact: GOG hasn't made one statement other than ''Too Niche''
FAct: sales and Ratings don't matter other than you don't like the game or have a personal vendetta against it
Fact: GOG sells, even more, lower type garbage games or even broken games but that seems to be ok
Fact: Your whole argument is about reviews while not everybody bothers to write those

And who cares when Cleve submitted it, in the end, he did so what does it matter what his personal opinions and views are when people just wanna buy a game.

Clearly you're biased as hell and a GOG apologist or else you wouldn't care in the first place if it did or did not get released here. Gotta love those corporate shills like you needing to defend a corp who is only in it for self-interest.

You can keep asking for it, but you're not going to get it for the following reasons:

A: Period wherein it should have made most of it sales has ended and it sold poorly.
B: Poor reviews despite a fanatical fanbase throughout its release, meaning that the fanbase is tiny and that buyers pulled in from outside of it don't like the game. That also means that the positive word of mouth effect you'd expect from a niche cult title is not happening and that you can't expect it to steadily turn you a profit over a longer period of time.

Those two are really bad by themselves. The killer, however, is C: Dev who goes public with disputes and openly lambasts you. That's where any possible deal is dead and buried; you're a lost cause if you need spelling out why that is.

Get over your obsession with this game already and move on. It was weird when the game was still the Codex in-joke for dumb noobs who didn't get that they were being laughed at instead of with, and it's weird now that the game has been out for years and not the Second Coming of Wizardry that the memes spoke of. And hey, if by some miracle it does show up, that's fine too. Unlike a lot of you hypocrites, I don't call for games that I don't care about to get rejected or removed. But if it doesn't, it's for these simple to understand reasons, no conspiracies required. Go buy Grimoire on Itch.io if you desperately want to avoid Steam.

You appear to be assuming that GOG got those games knowing that they would sell poorly here. Which doesn't make sense - GOG is after all a business, and would like a profit from games that they select. Logic suggests that GOG thought that they would sell more... and got it wrong. It happens.

Logic also suggests that if a game rates AND sells poorly on steam, it's not likely to be a smash hit here. GOG might get one if they judged that higher exposure in a smaller store could mean that the game was a sleeper hit, but I suspect that would only happen if they really like the game themselves. Again, it only makes sense if GOG thinks it will sell well.

So... this game has poor ratings and sales on steam? And GOG knows this, so they rejected it? Quelle surprise!

This dude gets it!

kai2, I may have had my differences with you (and have been a bit of an asshole to you) in another thread, but this is a pretty spot on summary of my current qualms regarding the "Grimoire on gog" situation.

But you apparently DON'T get it. The game has bombed. It's clearly a lost cause in terms of reviews and sales and just because GoG may have made some poor decisions on other games to release, that's a stupid excuse to waste their money on a game already proven to be a sales flop. Does that mean we need to take those other games that GoG recently rejected that sell their games for $0.99 on Steam too? All because GoG has let in a few poor-selling games, it's now time to accept any asset flips that get submitted?

Talk about people not "getting it"...

FACT: The Steam audience is not representative of the GOG audience. This has been pointed out to you time and time again, to no avail. I thought today was Father's Day, not Groundhog Day.

I'd be curious if you could find any game at all that is available on both Gog and Steam, that sold well on Gog but didn't sell well on Steam. I don't think such a game exists. In that sense, the Steam audience is perfectly representative of the gog audience.

I also find it hilarious that the same people who are clamouring for "Gog shouldn't reject a game just because the author is an untenable asshole!" (even though nobody made that argument at all- the argument made was that an untenable asshole isn't a good prospect for a company to get into business with, because there could be problems down the line), were the same people who were all for boycotting Fez for Phil Fish (before he pulled it himself).

In fact, Phil Fish is a perfect example of a guy who was too much go to work with, but if the situation was reversed, I'd be guessing that the same people here would be cheering gog's decision because they don't like the "filthy sjw".

I appreciate you bringing that up., Thank you. I was a bit easily offended as well. Water under the bridge.

uh what?
Not sure how me asking for a simple link morphed into a counter argument for me releasing any + all proof about why GOG really rejected Grimoire. How or why would I have access to any of that?

For three posts now, I've asked you to post or send me any kind of link to the statement where Cleve Blakemore explained why he was going back on his self-stated "no-discount price EVER promise". If no such statement or post exists online, just say that and I'll be 100% satisfied and stop asking you about it.

As I said previously in this thread, would buy Grimoire asap once the Grimoire Manual was updated to cover the version 2.0 changes/re-balances. Grimoire appears to be one of those old-school cRPGs where you absolutely MUST read the game manual or have no chance of getting anywhere in the game. Thoughts on this, dgnfly?

Why would anyone in their right mind want to sign a contract with someone that has serious mental health issues?

Sure, GOG *could* bend over backwards here, but why do you *expect* them to do that?

I'm asking the same of you what you ask from me proof from the other side considering your willing to call Cleve a lier for lack of proof but your willing to take GOG word for it. Hence why you keep asking the same thing while I said already your asking for something the man won't divulge but for some reason your too stupid to read that it seems.

So come on do the same I'm asking for you Like I said how can I get a statement if Cleve won't be upfront? considering you feel he needs to prove what he says I sure want you to proof GOG's side, I'm simply asking the same from you for the other side considering you seem to take GOG side on the matter when it comes to believability regardless of them stating nothing on the matter whatsoever. You sure seem to be more butthurt at what Cleve does as a person than just getting a game release and making excuses to spin around that fact?

Also saying one thing and doing another is a hallmark for people on the internet, I have little actual reason to believe your world on it.

THANK YOU, that's all I wanted to know.
Anyway, really hoping the V2 game manual comes out for Grimoire. Part of the awesomeness of old-school cRPGs was their super-thick manuals that laid out everything in details for new players.

Now please answer mine considering you feel the need to get non-existing replies and you seem to have a bone to pick with Cleve whining about a post back in 2017. whereas I couldn't give an ass what he does as long as he releases a game. considering you willing to judge him on what he said back then while demanding answers which he himself won't divulge or be clear about. So tell me why would you damnd a standard of Cleve but you won't question or demand the truth or directness from GOG when it comes to the game?