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Warhammer 40K: Sanctus Reach & Warhammer 40K: Armageddon are now available, DRM-free on GOG.com, for up to 75% off until February 27, 2PM UTC.
Welcome to Sanctus Reach. The bloodthirsty Orks have nearly wiped out humanity from the entire system. But the Space Wolves still stand fast. Push back the greenskins in hectic, 3D turn-based battles where every tactical choice can be fateful. Or side with the savage Orks in the Legacy of the Weirdboy DLC before you crash them again as Castellan Jakren Stein in the Sons of Cadia DLC.

Armageddon transports you to the Second War of Armageddon, where the Imperium must defend itself against the advancing Ork invaders. Hex-based, tactical combat, starring iconic characters and over 300 unit types, will pull you into this brutal universe for hundreds of hours. Keep playing with Untold Battles, the FREE DLC included in the base game, or challenge yourself further with the additional missions in Vulkan's Wrath, Angels of Death, Glory of Macragge, Ork Hunters, and Golgotha.

Or get the stand-alone expansion Da Orks, a tale of blood and wanton destruction, starring our favorite space-barbarians.

For a more comprehensive list of everything Warhammer 40K released today, go here.
It's not 40k but is a favourite of mine in the Warhammer games so I'd like to ask: Are we any nearer to Dark Omen's appearance, or is there a particular known reason EA are sitting on it still?
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DianamicAbrasi0n: It's not 40k but is a favourite of mine in the Warhammer games so I'd like to ask: Are we any nearer to Dark Omen's appearance, or is there a particular known reason EA are sitting on it still?
My understanding is that EA is reluctant to release anything unless they have the gold master disk or source code sitting in their hands. This was the primary reason it took so long for the Wing Commander expansions to get here.

It could be EA has neither (or it's in a box somewhere) and they would need a legal team to go over a bunch of contracts to be absolutely sure they own the rights to the game (which takes a long time, especially if it's low priority).
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bigblueogre: Thank the Emperor!
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drmike: The Emperor's dead no matter what folks are wishing:

https://spikeybits.com/2017/06/emperor-not-dead-8th-edition-fluff.html
Did you actually read the article or even just the URL?
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drmike: [The Emperor's dead]
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amcdermo: Did you actually read the article or even just the URL?
Hey, don't discount the possibility that some forumgoers are heretics. ;)


Potential Spoilers for the Warhammer 40,000 universe in general:
Having read the old rulebook (I couldn't tell you which edition) I'm pretty sure the emperor died way back when during the fight with Horus and the golden throne does nothing - other than to keep the empire believing there's still an emperor to guide them. Just saying...
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DianamicAbrasi0n: It's not 40k but is a favourite of mine in the Warhammer games so I'd like to ask: Are we any nearer to Dark Omen's appearance, or is there a particular known reason EA are sitting on it still?
There was big technical problems with Dark Omen on new Windows/DirectX versions. Very big problems, screen flickering for example. I think that these problems are the only thing that doesn't allow Dark Omen arrive at GOG.
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HeartsAndRainbows: Potential Spoilers for the Warhammer 40,000 universe in general:
Having read the old rulebook (I couldn't tell you which edition) I'm pretty sure the emperor died way back when during the fight with Horus and the golden throne does nothing - other than to keep the empire believing there's still an emperor to guide them. Just saying...
Nah, they redone fluff few times since then. Now Necrons is not soulless killing machines, but Tomb Kings style army in WH40K, Ultramarines Primarch is now alive and kicking, Space Marines is being replaced by new guys on the block - Primaris Marines. And Emperor is dying, but still alive - he is now working as a beacon for spaceship navigators.

And in old editions was many great things that now are completely lost: Primachs was less human-like, Chaos god was much more scary (anyone remember Pillar of Slanesh made from dead bodies making group sex? :) ) and there was five of them, Eldars was on the brink of extinction and many, many other things. Comparing to early grimdark editions new ones look like Equesterian fanfic. XD
Post edited February 24, 2018 by Andrey82
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drmike: The Emperor's dead no matter what folks are wishing:

https://spikeybits.com/2017/06/emperor-not-dead-8th-edition-fluff.html
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amcdermo: Did you actually read the article or even just the URL?
Yes, I actually read it.

It was included as a discussion about fans discussing if the Emperor was dead or not.

It gave some background on why some players of the game were thinking he was dead while another is saying he's not.

Do note I didn't link to yet another article discussing about how he may be reborn based on leaked text from one of the game manuals.

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HeartsAndRainbows: Potential Spoilers for the Warhammer 40,000 universe in general:
Having read the old rulebook (I couldn't tell you which edition) I'm pretty sure the emperor died way back when during the fight with Horus and the golden throne does nothing - other than to keep the empire believing there's still an emperor to guide them. Just saying...
I always thought that if he is still sending out the signal, something is still functioning up there in his head.

Of course it could be the throne sending out the signal and the body is just a rotting corpse that is somehow still there after all those thousands of years.
Post edited February 24, 2018 by drmike
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Andrey82: [...]. Comparing to early grimdark editions new ones look like Equesterian fanfic. XD
I'll have you know that Fallout: Equestria is pretty grimdark - just not all the time. ;)

But thanks for the update, Andrey82. Now I feel even more reassured that giving away my army was the right thing to do.
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Andrey82: Nah, they redone fluff few times since then. Now Necrons is not soulless killing machines, but Tomb Kings style army in WH40K, Ultramarines Primarch is now alive and kicking, Space Marines is being replaced by new guys on the block - Primaris Marines. And Emperor is dying, but still alive - he is now working as a beacon for spaceship navigators.

And in old editions was many great things that now are completely lost: Primachs was less human-like, Chaos god was much more scary (anyone remember Pillar of Slanesh made from dead bodies making group sex? :) ) and there was five of them, Eldars was on the brink of extinction and many, many other things. Comparing to early grimdark editions new ones look like Equesterian fanfic. XD
I admit that I'm quite interested in topic you've referred to (I know WH40k "lore" mostly from books and video games, where many things seems to be "constant" and not changed - emperor is nor dead nor alive, but "chained" to golden throne, eldars are fighting for survival (after birth of Slaanesh, when most of them died) etc. I was trying to find some comparison but I didn't succeed in finding some comparison of lore changes/evolution with next editions.

Could you please write something more about those changes (or link to pages which have something more in this topic)?
Hmm...i am really a fan of both WH-Settings and i played&loved most of the old games!
But....during the last years most WH-Titles where quite "cheap" and what i read&see(Reviews,Tests, Let's Play) about these two games seem to be titles that wan't to get some fast money from being a WH-game.
Post edited February 26, 2018 by DF1871
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muttly13: Does the gold or collectors edition add anything over the individual DLC other than the convenience of a single package?

Also, just to be absolutely certain, multiplayer is accessible via some 3rd party game servers correct? i wont buy it here and be unable to play anyone whos on Steam for example?

Edit - I mean specifically Sanctus Reach.
Sorry for the late replies I was out of the office last week.

We use our own servers for multiplayer and players from our site, Steam and GoG are all int eh same player pool.

The Gold versions are just bundled versions so you don't get anything extra and are not missing anything by buying the individual pieces.

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ValentB: Couldn't they release both as all-in-one complete pack? Pity that GOG allows this DLC mess for released games.
Sanctus Reach is still in development with more DLC's to come. We cant make a complete edition. We did a complete edition for Armageddon but then had more DLC as people wanted more so we;re reluctant to call things the complete edition unless we;re sure any more!

Panzer Corps has 17 DLC's and we never planned to make anywhere near that many when we started. It all depends on the popularity of the game. We can be making DLC for years after release. We also support for years post release.


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Siegor: I don't see my beloved Blood Angels on the DLC. Does anyone know if they are playable? Thanks in advance.
Armageddon has a DLC dedicated to the Blood Angles - Angels of Death.

The Sanctus Reach setting did not allow us to cover them but we'll looking at new settings for that game series in the future.
Post edited February 26, 2018 by IainMcNeil
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MartiusR: Could you please write something more about those changes (or link to pages which have something more in this topic)?
Well, it is a very big topic... Ok, I will try to give something to start, but if you really interested in that - read old codexes 1 and 2 editions. Here is some articles to start:

How Ultramarines changed since 2 edition: http://lotbieth.blogspot.ru/2014/01/punk-dark-imperium-looking-at-ultra.html

Whole race of space Dwarves which was removed from game (space Elves is still with us): https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Squat
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Andrey82: Whole race of space Dwarves which was removed from game (space Elves is still with us): https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Squat
I havent read your link yet, but i have heard of a return of the squats. As a guy who goes back to Rouge Trader on tabletop they and their ogre/rattling brethren really didnt fit into the more recent xenophob/mutant-phob Imperium. Even in the IG units. Even back then it kind of just felt like a way to force the WH races into WH40k. Not that I minded, I always enjoyed the old mole mortar!

Man, we could fill a forum on this topic. Remember when the orcs used to be fun loving miscreants pre-3rd edition? Ahh the gold old days.
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muttly13: I havent read your link yet, but i have heard of a return of the squats.
Yes, a few of them in new Necromunda game, not 40K.

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muttly13: Man, we could fill a forum on this topic. Remember when the orcs used to be fun loving miscreants pre-3rd edition? Ahh the gold old days.
Yes, it would be fun to compare fluff from different editions (we even have the soundtrack for this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7icNhOYXgA :) ). Yes, i remember that Orks was great back then. And I hate what they done to the Necrons: instead of Terminator-like unstoppable killers we got Tomb Kings In SPACE!!!
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amcdermo: Did you actually read the article or even just the URL?
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drmike: Yes, I actually read it.

It was included as a discussion about fans discussing if the Emperor was dead or not.

It gave some background on why some players of the game were thinking he was dead while another is saying he's not.

Do note I didn't link to yet another article discussing about how he may be reborn based on leaked text from one of the game manuals.

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HeartsAndRainbows: Potential Spoilers for the Warhammer 40,000 universe in general:
Having read the old rulebook (I couldn't tell you which edition) I'm pretty sure the emperor died way back when during the fight with Horus and the golden throne does nothing - other than to keep the empire believing there's still an emperor to guide them. Just saying...
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drmike: I always thought that if he is still sending out the signal, something is still functioning up there in his head.

Of course it could be the throne sending out the signal and the body is just a rotting corpse that is somehow still there after all those thousands of years.
There's a book (Dark Imperium) specifically saying Roboute Gulliman confirmed he was alive 100 years ago. He didn't get up and start dancing but his consciousness was alive. Nothing has officially changed so you can't just state he's dead and link to an article titled 'not dead' that also says in the article that he ain't dead. That's heresy and you know it!
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MartiusR: Could you please write something more about those changes (or link to pages which have something more in this topic)?
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Andrey82: Well, it is a very big topic... Ok, I will try to give something to start, but if you really interested in that - read old codexes 1 and 2 editions. Here is some articles to start:

How Ultramarines changed since 2 edition: http://lotbieth.blogspot.ru/2014/01/punk-dark-imperium-looking-at-ultra.html

Whole race of space Dwarves which was removed from game (space Elves is still with us): https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Squat
Thanks for those links! Article about ultramarines was great, Now I feel even more need to find and dig into those codexes from first editions.

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muttly13: I havent read your link yet, but i have heard of a return of the squats.
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Andrey82: Yes, a few of them in new Necromunda game, not 40K.

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muttly13: Man, we could fill a forum on this topic. Remember when the orcs used to be fun loving miscreants pre-3rd edition? Ahh the gold old days.
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Andrey82: Yes, it would be fun to compare fluff from different editions (we even have the soundtrack for this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7icNhOYXgA :) ). Yes, i remember that Orks was great back then. And I hate what they done to the Necrons: instead of Terminator-like unstoppable killers we got Tomb Kings In SPACE!!!
I'm a bit surprised with the part about orcs. Ok, I admit that I don't have contact with codexes, but in video games (based, from what I understanding, on later versions of codex) orks seems to have that feature as well - especially visible in DoW: Retribution (Orks campaign - it was one of the most funny and entertaining thing I've experienced in all games I've played so far - I genuinly can't understand, why so many people wish to see return of Gorgutz instead of Captain Bloodflag - Gorgutz is utterly boring)