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Cool bundle. Shame it's all "The code was already used. " and can't be claimed. Le sigh.
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Daimones: I am not trying to offend anyone on either side of the debate but I genuinely wish to understand why the above question is not front and center.
If no one reacts as if something is the actual thing they are angry about... they are probably not actually angry about it.

It's all pretense, everyone is upset that their access to porn games is being threatened and setting up a very very badly constructed smokescreen. Its not about censorship per se that's just the propaganda... it's about barriers to this very specific thing that did not use to be a proliferated as it is now.

It really does not matter how it happened, it's addicts in fear of not getting their fix.... either currently or in the future. So they pretend it's about something larger and try to paint it as a noble crusade.... the same way a drunkard drinks for liberty.
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Catventurer: Also I think that Ikenfell, which I already own, would have been a nicer option than the DLC infested House Party because censorship isn't going to stop with porn and violence. If you're not familiar with the game, Ikenfell is an RPG about gay witches with themes of acceptance and friendship.... and I may or may not bought the game for no reason other than you access the save feature by petting a cat.
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Cavalary: Well, if the devs are interested, they could always contact GOG. The campaign page says

Want to gift a game as part of the protest? Contact us.
join@freedomtobuy.games
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Cavalary:
I was thinking more that having this bundle be entirely games that would be NSFW, either due to adult content or violence, seems like a bit of a mistake. They really should have had more variety in terms of games that will be targeted for removal - maybe not immediately, but they will be eventually.

Like what if the bundle included...

1) Stardew Valley because it has a gay marriage option. You're not required to, but it's one of those things where some people are bothered by gay people even existing so they cannot tolerate a game that validates their existence.

2) Literally any game based on DND because I just checked reddit and yes, people that really do believe that DND is Satanic still exist. They think that playing DND is sinful and would be happy to see DND and everything based on it go away forever. They're just protecting your eternal soul.

3) Diablo because of it's name. Look I've played this game lots of times and am well aware that Diablo is *SPOILERS* the end boss. I'm saying that there are people that will look at the title and cover art and say that game has more Satanic activity than a single DND sourcebook. They're not going to care that the player character is there to resolve Tristram's demon issues.

4) Civilization 4 because Civ6 has been accused of containing "historically unimportant female leaders." Why would Civ4 be any safer? The folks going after your porn now really are all about controlling women in terms of what is/isn't acceptable and ruling nations is not on the list of acceptable activities.

5) Sticky Business because even though you can make a sexually suggestive sticker with the banana and apple, people only get angry about the pride flags because I don't know, just not using them is way too hard for some people.

6) Dorfromantik because there are people that want to stamp out absolutely all games to the extent that even a game about building landscapes isn't safe. I ran into these types personally twice.

You really should feel like the only games that are safe are the ones you own and have backed up.
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Syphon72: You realize this issue goes beyond just porn games. It's testing the waters to see what they can control and stop people from buying things with our own money. This is not only about video games..

If people don't stand against this it will open a door to even worse restrictions..
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rambo919: They already have demonstrated they can do it.... this just happens to be the one issue that hurts the same people that previously cheered when they did it.

And they have done it to do ACTUALLY harmful censorship where individuals were being threatened with poverty, starvation and losing their homes because they lost their ability to transact because they attended the wrong protest action that made the wrong politician look bad.... this is just a sideshow in a teacup.

This thread largely is just an exercise of "because it touches me personally I HAVE to make it a crisis for everyone else as well". Just rank narcissistic hypocrisy.

Nowhere is there either real mention of how perhaps the things being censored should never have been done in the first place.... at best it's mentioned in passing followed by "I still stand against this on principle". Pushing something in someone's face, demanding he swallow it and then crying "censorship" because after he attempted being polite and that did not work he is forcing it out of his mouth is just plain dishonest.

Whatever anyone's intentions.... if porn is a hill you are prepared to die pretending it's about freedom of speech but you ignore other speech being shut down because it made you uncomfortable.... freedom of speech is about idea's.... not sex...

Up next "protest action where thousands of people have an orgy in the city centre because they are upset at being prevented from having sex in public, they say it's a freedom of speech issue".
Ok I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you are not just a troll.
First you are doing Whataboutism and mudding the waters, intentionally probably. No one forces you to join GoG or anyone on this Just because it iss happening doesn't mean there is no fight against censorship in other places.
Also with the mention of the Antivax ABC hating game. I'm gonna assume you are an "alt" Righter, you dudes consequentially misunderstand freedom of speech.
Freedom of speech means you can say what you want without legal consequences, not without(societal) consequences at all.
I'll let you speak whatever hate you want, but I don't need to engage or deal with you in any way.
It does also not mean GoG has to sell any game they don't want to for any reason. That is not censorship. GoG does not have close to any monopoly and you don't rely on them to sell your game.
(The Desire ? game situation was shitty from GoG, I give you that, but maybe they bettered themselves).

Freedom of speech is probably even the wrong word here anyways, afaik, the pressure came from payment providers not the Government. The Problem is that this market is basically monopolized and monopolies, or duolopies here, should not exist and if they do they should not be able to decide whom to do business with as long as it is legal.
If the payment processor and CC market would be broader the problem would not really be as you(Itch/Steam/etc.) could just add a new one or change it.
Post edited August 03, 2025 by Reaper9988
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Gawgstopo: Bruh, no need to defend your pron stash this much :D
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MarkoH01: House Party isn't even what you would call "a porn game" and I don't need to defend myself for what I like to play at all - why should I? I am defending good devs who developed a unique game and who were always fair to their customers - treating GOGers the same as anybody else.

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InsufficientLight: I would love to hear from GOG about why they censored Tokyo Clanpool, a VITA game originally, while claiming to oppose censorship...
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MarkoH01: They didn't. The game was released censored on PC by the devs to GOG because of Nintendo. There has not been an uncensored version of the game yet. The devs are creating an uncensor patch right now which is not finished yet. They are planning to make it an offsite patch. The interesting qustion would be if GOG would be willing to host it when it is finished.
Eastasiasoft have been pretty clear that GOG told them they would not host the patch or the uncensored game. That is the very reason the patch has to be off-site to begin with. To quote them:

"Some content was rejected by GOG"
"GOG allowed the content adjusted version only"
"While we can't share details due to NDAs, the answer we received has been very clear"

Keep in mind GOG has Moero Chronicle, a far more risque game from Compile Heart, with not only the same type of content GOG demanded removed from Tokyo Clanpool, but is far more in your face with it to the point the game almost revolves around it, compared to Tokyo Clanpool where it's simply a side attraction. So not only are they censoring a console game seemingly just because it's too anime and Japanese, but they're still hosting the same content they're refusing from this game uncensored on their store elsewhere. No matter what way you look at it, this game's censorship is absurd, the worst of any console game in recent memory, and GOG is absolutely to blame here, as well as Steam and Nintendo. This game has seemingly been the target of a coordinated deplatforming campaign, and frankly I'm very, very bitter over it. I love Compa games, and I loathe what the industry has done and is doing to them. They're now likely teetering on the edge of bankruptcy because of things like this.
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clarry: Cool bundle. Shame it's all "The code was already used. " and can't be claimed. Le sigh.
Have you tried the workaround posted by Palestine?

Worked for me.
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tfishell: ^
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Gawgstopo: Imagine throwing one's lot in with the forum stalker...shiggydiggydoo
You really should stop stalking this forum. It will help you in the end.

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Gawgstopo: Imagine throwing one's lot in with the forum stalker...shiggydiggydoo
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tfishell: Stop hiding behind alts and just stick with one account. I'm not going to take a new account that has strong anti-GOG opinions / beefs with GOG from the get-go seriously.
This is the problem. He can't. He is permanently banned and isn't allowed to post here anymore. Next month we will see his next account. If he keeps doing so GOG will terminate his account. He posted pictures where GOG staff said this.

He is throwing away an account with 600+ games just to post in here. It is insane. It's not worth it.
Post edited August 03, 2025 by foad01
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Reaper9988: The Problem is that this market is basically monopolized and monopolies, or duolopies here, should not exist and if they do they should not be able to decide whom to do business with as long as it is legal.
If the payment processor and CC market would be broader the problem would not really be as you(Itch/Steam/etc.) could just add a new one or change it .
Not in this thread or maybe even this discussion forum, but people do know this, and talk about exactly this. Japanese government also focuses on this issue. People who clog VISA and MasterCard phone lines also don't just say "gimme my porn" but rather complain about being prevented from buying legal goods.

Most YouTube videos on this topic I've seen always talked about the broader picture. And it makes sense, we need to wake up people who don't care or even hate adult content, so that they see this is NOT about adult content, ultimately.

"Stop censoring games" is mostly just a chant for people to rally behind more easily.

Also, Itch has already said they are in the talks with other payment processors. Steam probably does the same, and so do many others.

One step we should all take is to use alternate payment processors whenever possible to help them grow, while simultaneously helping VISA and MasterCard shrink. Easily said than done though, I know. I don't think my bank even offers any alternative, and nobody here accepts crypto in brick and mortar stores. I might try going cash-only... but that would only work if we all do it, and we won't.

Using something like GooglePay is probably still helping VISA and MasterCard in some form. I mean, they can bully even PayPal apparently.
Post edited August 03, 2025 by ElDoRado1239
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Reaper9988: The Problem is that this market is basically monopolized and monopolies, or duolopies here, should not exist and if they do they should not be able to decide whom to do business with as long as it is legal.
If the payment processor and CC market would be broader the problem would not really be as you(Itch/Steam/etc.) could just add a new one or change it .
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ElDoRado1239: Not in this thread or maybe even this discussion forum, but people do know this, and talk about exactly this. Japanese government also focuses on this issue. People who clog VISA and MasterCard phone lines also don't just say "gimme my porn" but rather complain about being prevented from buying legal goods.

Most YouTube videos on this topic I've seen always talked about the broader picture. And it makes sense, we need to wake up people who don't care or even hate adult content, so that they see this is NOT about adult content, ultimately.

"Stop censoring games" is mostly just a chant for people to rally behind more easily.

Also, Itch has already said they are in the talks with other payment processors. Steam probably does the same, and so do many others.

One step we should all take is to use alternate payment processors whenever possible to help them grow, while simultaneously helping VISA and MasterCard shrink. Easily said than done though, I know. I don't think my bank even offers any alternative, and nobody here accepts crypto in brick and mortar stores. I might try going cash-only... but that would only work if we all do it, and we won't.

Using something like GooglePay is probably still helping VISA and MasterCard in some form. I mean, they can bully even PayPal apparently.
I personally switched to Amex, for the most part, they have their own problems but it's a competitor. Completely getting rid of Paypal/MC/Visa is nearly impossible though atm as you say.

I use Crypto sometimes. The main problem is that if you want to do small transactions below 200 - 300 Bucks the added costs are insane.
And I don't want to keep 300€ in a wallet with a currency that is still pretty volatile. Otherwise I'd use it more. Also it's still not easy to get into if you are not computer savy.
But yeah whoever can should switch away from these Stripe/Paypal/MC/Visa as much as possible,
Post edited August 03, 2025 by Reaper9988
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rambo919: You seem to have difficulty distinguishing between what people say a thing is about and what it really is about.... no wonder you cannot understand logic.
Could it be that the alt account LegionKIND is one of your creations?

I wouldn't be surprised after your posts in this thread. It is somehow a strange coincidence that the alt account came back when you started posting your drivel in this thread.
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Reaper9988: Freedom of speech means you can say what you want without legal consequences, not without(societal) consequences at all.
I'll let you speak whatever hate you want, but I don't need to engage or deal with you in any way.
It does also not mean GoG has to sell any game they don't want to for any reason. That is not censorship. GoG does not have close to any monopoly and you don't rely on them to sell your game.
(The Desire ? game situation was shitty from GoG, I give you that, but maybe they bettered themselves).

Freedom of speech is probably even the wrong word here anyways, afaik, the pressure came from payment providers not the Government. The Problem is that this market is basically monopolized and monopolies, or duolopies here, should not exist and if they do they should not be able to decide whom to do business with as long as it is legal.
If the payment processor and CC market would be broader the problem would not really be as you(Itch/Steam/etc.) could just add a new one or change it .
Adding in here, that freedom of speech is a US concept that the GOVERMENT of the USA can't attack you because of what you are saying as a US citizen. (Except extreme cases).

This concept does not include private owned companies to the point, that those companies can use the freedom pf speech idea that their freedom of speech is violated, when they have to host every bullshit.
Their place, their rules.

For most other countries it is very often more a freedom of expression (in the German constitution that is exactly the word used - in the english translation), that can be limited by other laws.

And because GoG is a company from Poland, arguing with US ideas is at best something to amuse yourself.

But you are right, payment processors using their monopolistic (or duopolistic) power to throw others out of the marked should hurt a lot of laws. If not US laws, EU laws for sure.
But US based companies got this habit to ignore laws of other countries they use for their trades, until those laws bite them in their ass though.
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clarry: Cool bundle. Shame it's all "The code was already used. " and can't be claimed. Le sigh.
Try again, they were broken but were reenabled a bit ago! I claimed the two games I wanted with these.
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randomuser.833: Adding in here, that freedom of speech is a US concept that the GOVERMENT of the USA can't attack you because of what you are saying as a US citizen. (Except extreme cases).

This concept does not include private owned companies to the point, that those companies can use the freedom pf speech idea that their freedom of speech is violated, when they have to host every bullshit.
Their place, their rules.
These things always get dumbed down to the point they stop being true, basically, but we would probably never be able to assemble and support or fight something in a somewhat coordinated manner if we insisted on 100% correctness.

I don't like this, I would prefer 100% correctness, but that's how humans work in this day and age.

When Google really hated a new EU regulation that did something to the extent of preventing them from stealing traffic from journalists (I don't remember the exact specifics off the top of my head), they gathered a huge crowd of young internet users under the warcry "EU wants to kill memes." It was successfull, the internet was full of this for a while, even though EU went ahead unphased I believe (because it had nothing to do with memes, and it wasn't really an evil regulation either AFAIK, so it didn't attract attention of those who could stop it).

And the lowest layer of the wave we now try to maintain is built on "freedom of expression" and "game censorship," but the upper layers carry more deeply invested people who know and care about the deeper issues, and the top layer carries politicians and businesspeople who are the ones able to influence the scene the most.

In Google's case, it was used for their own selfish purposes, but here it's used for a good cause. Again, I'm not exactly happy about this system, but if you know how to create the core layer that keeps the entire thing going without a certain level of oversimplification, I'll be happy to hear it.
Post edited August 03, 2025 by ElDoRado1239
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"In 24 hours, one million people have claimed the FreedomToBuy games and shown their support. ..."

https://x.com/GOGcom/status/1951999439024869715
this reminds me of the push to have CC processors deny gun & gun related purchases in the US several year ago. That just switched a lot of people to using cash, and it never happened.

This whole idea of the cc processor ban is funny to me.

I remember when GTA San Andreas got an AO rating because of the hot coffee mod. I immediately ran out to Media Play (no-one else would sell AO games) and bought a copy. I haven't liked GTA since 2. I still have that disk that has the "M" rating on it.

I find it funny Agony would be a banned game, I got it from GOG and on my Switch.

Really surprised about itch.io too. They were super pro-lgbt stuff. Never any interest in it, but man, for itch.io to just nuke it all is pretty impressively bad. That seemed to be a majority of their stuff.

From their page about this: https://itch.io/updates/update-on-nsfw-content

"If you previously purchased or received a download key for one of these pages, the downloadable files are still available in your library, assuming the creator has not taken down the page or removed the files themselves."

So on itch you can loose your stuff if you didn't have a current download & the uploader didn't remove it yet.

I don't see any good from this. It'll start here, then go to anything else a group goes against. I remember the push against Alex Jones NWO Wars. Steam didn't budge on that one, but I'm betting stuff like that will be gone eventuatly.