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my name is sadde catte: You don't have to vote for someone if you actually do want to abstain by the way, in case it wasn't clear all you have to do to abstain is unvote. You were already abstaining before you voted for present or abstain.
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GymHenson: This is true......not voting in like a NL vote....
It's not. If it were true, it would be Day over now.
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ZFR: If not, let's not make it a topic. We can do it later - the mathematical advantage of doing it toDay is tiny.
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GymHenson: Wait, didn't you say on D1 that the math said it was better to do it asap?
Yes I did. Where do you see any contradiction?
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bucktoothgamer: Lift and nmillar ganging up on pooka about not putting himself in his list of "potential other scum" seems like a real straw grasping
I like your contributions for the most part. But please do me the favour and read the exchanges and explanations before criticizing something. I didn't 'gang up on pooka' for not putting himself in the list of 'potential other scum'! I criticized him for not including himself in the 'did not vote trent' group. The diffrerence between these two has already been discussed.

I see that Joppo is collecting votes and I agree that there is something off with his posts. Micro also gives me sightly scummy vibes and I still think that Pooka is slightly leaning scum. But unfortunately, even on going back, I still have no solid scum leads. My top choice at the moment would be Joppo ... but I don't want to put him on L-2 yet. Just in case that he is town after all and there are no scum yet on his wagon.
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bucktoothgamer: Lift and nmillar ganging up on pooka about not putting himself in his list of "potential other scum" seems like a real straw grasping attempt at trying to find seedy behavior, it seems the issue has been put to rest for now but that just stuck out to me that 2 different people found that worthy of mention when people are obviously either going to put themselves as town, or make some corny joke about them possibly being scum.
I'm not sure "ganging up" is the appropriate phrase here. I simply disagreed about excluding yourself from town / scum read lists. As mentioned previously, for completeness sake, I will always include myself in such lists. Only I know my alignment, so anybody who is town aligned should consider me as a potential suspect.

Pooka excluding himself from this list, gives a small, "I'm not on this list because I'm clearly town." vibe, but not enough to put him immediately on any scum list.

Again, this is personal preference for such lists rather than anything remotely resembling a scum tell.

Cue discussion about how Lift and I are clearly backtracking and must be the scum team.
OK, given all of this back and forth, I'm more or less calling it.

From the "they who lynched Trent" group, Lift is my top pick. He is still giving me scum Lift vibes, so there's that.

From the "they who didn't lynch Trent" group, Joppo is the top candidate. I've been reading his exchanges with others and...I dunno, it seems everything he's saying is just too convenient to be true, and when caught on his slip, he's been trying whatever he could to save his skin. I like the effort, but don't think it's ringing the right bells with me.

Now to be fair, Lift has been nitpicky as Town just the same. While he is giving me scum vibes, I don't want to fire at him too early, as maybe I am misjudging him, so I'm more likely to vote for Joppo today. I'd also save the NL for a later day, when the player count shrinks.

Anyway
Vote joppo

More thoughts: I think Micro is Town. Dunno why exactly, but he's not giving me scum vibes from his overall behavior. Also, I'd argue that "if a scum player tries to lynch another player than that player is Town" is not just flawed logic, but it also gives scum a lot of leeway to bus their buddy tomorrow at the very least and ride off that logic to victory. So I wouldn't count too much on it.
Votecount the Ninth - "Is it snowing??"

Microfish 1 - nmillar (#337)
Joppo 4 - ZFR (#359), dedoporno (#382), bucktoothgamer (#399), Pookina (#410)
nmillar 1 - Microfish (#401)

Not voting 4 - GymHenson, Lifthrasil, JaiSpohpere, joppo

With 10 players 6 votes are required for lunch.

Joppo is closest to lunch at L-2.

Please check your vote (or lack thereof) and make sure I have counted it correctly.
Post edited December 06, 2020 by my name is sadde catte
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Microfish_1: [something about no lynch]
I'd be willing to do it today if no one starts hopping up and down screaming "I'm a tunafish!"
explain this.
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Microfish_1: [something about no lynch]
I'd be willing to do it today if no one starts hopping up and down screaming "I'm a tunafish!"
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JoeSapphire: explain this.
Oh, Joe, have you just outed yourself?
Uh oh.
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JoeSapphire: explain this.
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nmillar: Oh, Joe, have you just outed yourself?
I've ordered an explanation. One only microfish can provide, so let him speak.
high rated
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nmillar: Oh, Joe, have you just outed yourself?
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JoeSapphire: I've ordered an explanation. One only microfish can provide, so let him speak.
Shall I make popcorn?
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JoeSapphire: explain this.
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nmillar: Oh, Joe, have you just outed yourself?
Why would he have outed himself? What is your line of reasoning leading to this question?


Actually I think Joe might have a catch! Micro writes in post 387:
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Microfish_1: 1. good question, it makes sense. ofc, you could be scum brainwashing us dumb tunabeefs into thinking you aren't a tunafish, but i do like your reasoning. also, i think wagoneers is a word, or maybe it is wagoner?
I had read that as a micro picking up on my question to joppo in post 385 and the suspicion implied therein. But he wrote in 387 that he had caught up to 360. So he can't have been inspired by my post 385 ... and the tunafish doesn't make sense there.
@Micro: why do you write that this game is tunabeef against tunafish? Are scum actually called tunafish in this game? And how do you know that? Or where did the fish come from?
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nmillar: Oh, Joe, have you just outed yourself?
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Lifthrasil: Why would he have outed himself? What is your line of reasoning leading to this question?

Actually I think Joe might have a catch! Micro writes in post 387:
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Microfish_1: 1. good question, it makes sense. ofc, you could be scum brainwashing us dumb tunabeefs into thinking you aren't a tunafish, but i do like your reasoning. also, i think wagoneers is a word, or maybe it is wagoner?
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Lifthrasil: I had read that as a micro picking up on my question to joppo in post 385 and the suspicion implied therein. But he wrote in 387 that he had caught up to 360. So he can't have been inspired by my post 385 ... and the tunafish doesn't make sense there.
@Micro: why do you write that this game is tunabeef against tunafish? Are scum actually called tunafish in this game? And how do you know that? Or where did the fish come from?
how right you are.

but why didn't you mention this sooner?

vote microfish
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ZFR: Uh oh.
explain this.
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ZFR: Uh oh.
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JoeSapphire: explain this.
For me Micro's post seemed clear: I'm willing to NL now, unless someone does a "hi, I'm tunafish".

The fact that you didn't get it made me think you completely missed your PM and outed yourself.