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dedoporno: Right now I'm thinking we can hold off on that NL one more day.
But didn't you say or infer that we do it sooner rather than later in a recent post?

As such, I am confuzzled a bit.

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dedoporno: I'm not a fan of NL Today, but I support it before the time for it runs out.

I'm going to

vote Joppo
Tbh Joppo is a viable vote choice for me....but i'll only vote for them if a wagon picks up steam. If not, i'm likely going to go for a NL vote(UNLESS someone appears highly suspect sometime "today"[d2] before EOD, or Joppo's wagon shows promise, that is).

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(No need to bump...will take me awhile to write replies)
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ZFR: I won't oppose it: if the majority do want it, I'll happily vote it. From what I see though, we don't have the majority for it.
I am onboard for it any "day"...heck i'm sorta doing it right now in a way(as I haven't voted yet). If enough people seem to be going for NL, and Joppo(as said to dedo) doesn't get enough votes & no one else seems suspect enough to vote for by EOD....well then I will probably vote NL at some point.

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ZFR: If not, let's not make it a topic. We can do it later - the mathematical advantage of doing it toDay is tiny.
Wait, didn't you say on D1 that the math said it was better to do it asap?

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(More replies to come after a quick break...no need to bump)
EBWOP to the above 2 posts: I am also willing to vote for Micro if they get high enough of a wagon.

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nmillar: Are you sure you want to head down that particular rabbit hole again? ;)
Depends on if you're scum or not....but seeing as no one but "ded" players are confirmed, and I suspect all unconfirmed players to some degree in general: I might, rabbit....I might.

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nmillar: But yes, fair enough, I absolutely would say exactly the same thing as scum. Calling myself out for lurking would indeed be a smart scum move, but that implies I'm smart in the first place.
You're smarter than me in this game at some ways, so you're smart enough. :)

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Lifthrasil: I understand that it appears to be nit-picking. But I saw something that stuck out and I pushed to see what Pooka's response was.
Fair enough

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Lifthrasil: I didn't ask you to check capitalization. I just asked, because our task is to eliminate all things un-beef. So if you were just tuna, that statement could have been a slip. (before you then, hypothetically, checked the sample PM, prompted by my question to do so). You may be right that tuna is a word play on town. But this game might as well be tuna-beef against tuna.

In any case, there is something fishy about your tuna!

And dedo is right. Not reading 'the rest of trent's post' looks strange too. As does your premature celebration.
Good points here.

To myself: hmm, what to do...what to do(re voting).

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Lifthrasil: By the way, I think that statements like 'Oh, I was so expecting to be nightkilled' are quite LAMIST.
To be fair, Micro(due to not posting as much as some) would be an easy low info NK if he's town....so if he is town then that sort of statement makes some sense.
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joppo: I would advise against it, as I'm Tuna and your vote would be better used if placed on scum.

I admit I made a mistake. Never denied it. But that doesn't make me scum. The mishap you're so concentrated on? It's NAI. Sure I could have done it as scum, but it would be the exact same mistake I did while being Town.
This seems a bit LAMIST to me, tbh.

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joppo: Why are you asking me? I'm someone who DID NOT see Trent as scum before EoD and thus DID NOT vote him.
This as well.

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joppo: Right now it's irrelevant because I'm not being shrewd.
Not even as a shrewd town? o.0 :)
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ZFR: I explained why I let it go:

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ZFR: OK. If it's going to cause a decrease of anyone's enjoyment of the game for whatever reason, I retract my D1 NL request. I won't ask for it again.
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ZFR: I'm no longer actively seeking it because I don't want people to not enjoy the game because of it.

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Microfish_1: What are the odds if we do it on D2 vs D3 or D4?
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ZFR: I don't want to enter into exact calculations (maybe post game if you're interested), but it's around of few percentage points difference.
Okay, thank you. I appreciate it.

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joppo: Why are you asking me? I'm someone who DID NOT see Trent as scum before EoD and thus DID NOT vote him.
(Well technically I did see a tinge of scum in Trent in all his anger at the argument with ZFR but still the players you should be asking are ZFR, Dedo, Lift, Nmillar and Gym.)
My vote matches my scumreads. They are not the reason I am under the spotlight.

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Microfish_1: interesting. Joppo is quite shrewd as scum. I can see this being a thing.
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joppo: First I hear of it, but okay. I'll take that as a compliment outside the game thread. Right now it's irrelevant because I'm not being shrewd.

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Microfish_1: through this post I haven't seen Joppo explain himself well.
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joppo: Keep reading then. I explained myself at least three times already and I provided plenty details. I can only explain the same thing with different words so many times before I start repeating myself.
1. Er... you're right? I misremembered. Apologies.

2. I was quite impressed with/by you in your first scum game.

3. noted. I read your explanation, I think? I'll have to reread it.

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Lifthrasil: I just asked, because our task is to eliminate all things un-beef. So if you were just tuna, that statement could have been a slip. (before you then, hypothetically, checked the sample PM, prompted by my question to do so). You may be right that tuna is a word play on town. But this game might as well be tuna-beef against tuna.

In any case, there is something fishy about your tuna!

And dedo is right. Not reading 'the rest of trent's post' looks strange too. As does your premature celebration.

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Microfish_1: vote present
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Lifthrasil: What? What do you mean by this vote?
By the way, I think that statements like 'Oh, I was so expecting to be nightkilled' are quite LAMIST.
I love the puns!
They might be, but in this case they are quite true....
You didn't call my hinting at a PR LAMIST, though, so I am wondering what you thought of them.... Is your scum-dar gone wonky again?
:)
I'm voting "present" the way they do in congress when they don't want to take a stand but want it to be known they are there. I could also vote to abstain?

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GymHenson: As such, I am confuzzled a bit.
Give GH some un-fuzzle potions

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GymHenson: Wait, didn't you say on D1 that the math said it was better to do it asap?
he did, he did, he did. I do, however, appreciate his desire to not go all meta on us.
Votecount the Eight and a Halfth - "Maybe"

Microfish 2 - nmillar (#337), Microfish (#387)
Joppo 2 - ZFR (#359), dedoporno (#382)

Not voting 6 - pookina, bucktoothgamer, GymHenson, Lifthrasil, JaiSpohpere, joppo

With 10 players 6 votes are required for lunch.

Micro and Joppo are closest to lunch at L-4.

Please check your vote (or lack thereof) and make sure I have counted it correctly.
Post edited 5 hours ago by my name is sadde catte
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my name is sadde catte: Votecount the Eight and a Halfth - "Maybe"

Microfish 1 - nmillar (#337), Microfish (#387)
Joppo 1 - ZFR (#359), dedoporno (#382)

Not voting 6 - pookina, bucktoothgamer, GymHenson, Lifthrasil, JaiSpohpere, joppo

With 10 players 6 votes are required for lunch.

Micro and Joppo are closest to lunch at L-4.

Please check your vote (or lack thereof) and make sure I have counted it correctly.
waytaminnite? why did you put me on myself?

vote: abstain
Sorry for my absence, I didnt even realize my last post was 2 days ago. Some things I wanted to give my input on:

Lift and nmillar ganging up on pooka about not putting himself in his list of "potential other scum" seems like a real straw grasping attempt at trying to find seedy behavior, it seems the issue has been put to rest for now but that just stuck out to me that 2 different people found that worthy of mention when people are obviously either going to put themselves as town, or make some corny joke about them possibly being scum.

Also, lift seems to carry quite a bit of influence with his actions. With nmillar following lockstep with the above mentioned pooka grilling, and on D1 lift and joppo voted for me back to back. I wont dare mention again the chance of there being any more than 2 scum, but if it turns out that the team is Lift and joppo/nmillar I would be less than shocked.

I know I have already touched on the joppo "fool me again" debate, but if he truly overlooked part of that post, its seems to be rough luck that it happened to be one that contained four lines of text...

Micros "im alive?" comment: I can see where people are getting lamist feeling from and his present vote is a little strange(which at the time of writing catte is assuming as a selfvote?), but between the two early game lurky-turkeys im more skeptical of millar than i am micro.

Speaking of nmillar: pointing out their own lurkiness then going straight to voting micro for the same characteristic seems real opportunistic, as if feeling the need to jump on micro before the opposite could happen.

taking into account my mental town-to-scum slider of remaining players cross-referenced with the current wagons, ill throw my vote in the ring:

vote joppo

feels a little bad, as he gave me a bunch of townie points a couple pages back
Votecount the Eight and Three-Quartersth - "Yeah, ok."

Microfish 2 - nmillar (#337), Microfish (#387)
Joppo 3 - ZFR (#359), dedoporno (#382), bucktoothgamer (#399)

Not voting 5 - pookina, , GymHenson, Lifthrasil, JaiSpohpere, joppo

With 10 players 6 votes are required for lunch.

Joppo is closest to lunch at L-3.

Please check your vote (or lack thereof) and make sure I have counted it correctly.



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Microfish_1: waytaminnite? why did you put me on myself?

vote: abstain
If someone makes a typo (e.g. trentonalf) I will do my best to interpret the intentions of the voter. However if there is no obvious target for the vote I will treat it as a self-vote. Please only vote for either living players or no-lynch, anything else will be counted as a self vote. That includes voting for "abstain".

If you wish to abstain, I suggest you do it rather than vote for it. ;)
Post edited 3 hours ago by my name is sadde catte
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my name is sadde catte: Votecount the Eight and Three-Quartersth - "Yeah, ok."

Microfish 2 - nmillar (#337), Microfish (#387)
Joppo 3 - ZFR (#359), dedoporno (#382), bucktoothgamer (#399)

Not voting 5 - pookina, , GymHenson, Lifthrasil, JaiSpohpere, joppo

With 10 players 6 votes are required for lunch.

Micro and Joppo are closest to lunch at L-4.

Please check your vote (or lack thereof) and make sure I have counted it correctly.

              & emsp ;                  & amp; emsp;          

If someone makes a typo (e.g. trentonalf) I will do my best to interpret the intentions of the voter. However if there is no obvious target for the vote I will treat it as a self-vote. Please only vote for either living players or no-lynch, anything else will be counted as a self vote. That includes voting for "abstain".

If you wish to abstain, I suggest you do it rather than voting for it. ;)
I see. Does the self-vote count towards my lunch total?

vote nmillar
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Microfish_1: I see. Does the self-vote count towards my lunch total?

vote nmillar
Yes, but only now that it's been properly explained.

You don't have to vote for someone if you actually do want to abstain by the way, in case it wasn't clear all you have to do to abstain is unvote. You were already abstaining before you voted for present or abstain.

However, your current vote is noted and will appear on the next votecount (unless you change it before that happens of course).
Post edited 5 hours ago by my name is sadde catte
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Microfish_1: What are the odds if we do it on D2 vs D3 or D4?
I'd be willing to do it today if no one starts hopping up and down screaming "I'm a tunafish!"
Akshually.....Joppo didn't "hop", but they essentially said they are Tuna in a prior post. Also NMillar made a LAMIST sounding post or two.

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Microfish_1: Give GH some un-fuzzle potions
Finally!

*GH pops one open and takes a whiff*

"Mmm, catnip flavor...my favoritez!"

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Microfish_1: waytaminnite? why did you put me on myself?

vote: abstain
Going with NL?

GH thinks to self: Hmm, what to do....should I join in, I wonder?

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my name is sadde catte: Microfish 2 - nmillar (#337), Microfish (#387)
Joppo 3 - ZFR (#359), dedoporno (#382), bucktoothgamer (#399)

Not voting 5 - pookina, , GymHenson, Lifthrasil, JaiSpohpere, joppo

With 10 players 6 votes are required for lunch.

Micro and Joppo are closest to lunch at L-4.
(Underlining mine)

Plz note the vote counts in this vote count( 2 and 3), and then read the underlined bit above slowly. ;)

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my name is sadde catte: If someone makes a typo (e.g. trentonalf) I will do my best to interpret the intentions of the voter. However if there is no obvious target for the vote I will treat it as a self-vote. Please only vote for either living players or no-lynch, anything else will be counted as a self vote. That includes voting for "abstain".

If you wish to abstain, I suggest you do it rather than vote for it. ;)
A stickler eh?

Note to self: If I ever host, must remember to leave a stickly prickly pear in Catte's Catte bed. ;D

(The above is a joke, in case anyone didn't get that :))

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my name is sadde catte: You don't have to vote for someone if you actually do want to abstain by the way, in case it wasn't clear all you have to do to abstain is unvote. You were already abstaining before you voted for present or abstain.
This is true......not voting in like a NL vote....but the kewl kiddoz(Tm and patent pending) vote NL to make it official. :)