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Wow, ok, well

lol

I've got a pretend dollar that says Carradice got off a role cop shot on Lift N1. I mean, people, Lift was *voting* Carradice EOD1.

What can I tell ya people

They can't all be zingers

If I get eliminated here, hopefully I left behind a little bit of work that can be used to win the game for Town
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yogsloth: I've got a pretend dollar that says Carradice got off a role cop shot on Lift N1. I mean, people, Lift was *voting* Carradice EOD1.
I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here.


By the way, the thing I wanted to check was this:

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yogsloth: Lift drove that carradice wagon... that wolf pelt belongs to him.
That's not exactly true. Lift joined the wagon and the push towards Carradice but it was originally ZFR's initiative, not Lift's.
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yogsloth: I've got a pretend dollar that says Carradice got off a role cop shot on Lift N1. I mean, people, Lift was *voting* Carradice EOD1.
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dedoporno: I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here.

By the way, the thing I wanted to check was this:

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yogsloth: Lift drove that carradice wagon... that wolf pelt belongs to him.
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dedoporno: That's not exactly true. Lift joined the wagon and the push towards Carradice but it was originally ZFR's initiative, not Lift's.
Carradice was role cop. EOD1 Lift was voting for him, nobody has role claimed, if you're scum role cop, who do you check? Why not the guy voting for you?

And I guess my impression was that Lift was pretty key is getting carradice lynched... *given that he was the only one voting for carradice EOD1 instead of lynching the townie* and then continued that case into Day 2

That doesn't mean Lift was the only guy who gets credit

But the above is a pretty good argument for the pelt

........


I'm not sure what I can do for myself here. For reasons I'll discuss later, I probably shouldn't have accepted the sub in, and obviously I haven't done my best at all here... but I'd highly encourage you to re-read my work Day 3.

I'm actually trying to emulate a player I know on MU called "Quick_Ben" that has a certain style... he frequently plays without tons of time to read every post in a game, and when he's Town, he just slices through the BS and analyzes vote counts and night actions targets and looks for who's acting like a Townie should act and who isn't. If you can't come up with a completely plausible reasons why you used your action the way you did, bang, he votes you and skips town. No pun intended.

Micro's vote record is terrible and his night actions don't make sense.

If he's Town, sorry, my bad, but I'm starting with him and Flocke before going for somebody that's eliminated a wolf.
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yogsloth: I've got a pretend dollar that says Carradice got off a role cop shot on Lift N1. I mean, people, Lift was *voting* Carradice EOD1.
So? Why shouldn't a scum role cop take an interest in a player who votes him? I can't follow your logic here. I mostly mentioned that possibility because Carradice said that he'd investigated me. Of course he was scum and so might have been lying. It doesn't really matter anyhow, since it is speculation. Unless, of course, you want to share whom Carradice investigated? ;-)
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yogsloth: Carradice was role cop. EOD1 Lift was voting for him, nobody has role claimed, if you're scum role cop, who do you check? Why not the guy voting for you?

And I guess my impression was that Lift was pretty key is getting carradice lynched... *given that he was the only one voting for carradice EOD1 instead of lynching the townie* and then continued that case into Day 2

That doesn't mean Lift was the only guy who gets credit

But the above is a pretty good argument for the pelt
I'm not trying to take his credit from being on that wagon away, I'm just pointing out that he wasn't the only and main driving force behind it like you mentioned.

That aside, sorry but I still don't get what this has to do with price of eggs. Is your point that Lift is so obviously Town that Town!Micro's track would have been clearly wasted on him so there is no way Micro is telling the truth about that?
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yogsloth: I've got a pretend dollar that says Carradice got off a role cop shot on Lift N1. I mean, people, Lift was *voting* Carradice EOD1.
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Lifthrasil: So? Why shouldn't a scum role cop take an interest in a player who votes him? I can't follow your logic here. I mostly mentioned that possibility because Carradice said that he'd investigated me. Of course he was scum and so might have been lying. It doesn't really matter anyhow, since it is speculation. Unless, of course, you want to share whom Carradice investigated? ;-)
What I'm saying is if you're a scum tracker needing to fake some claims, you've got to be able to have plausible deniability.

If you've been role-copped as something that doesn't move, you're a safe tracker target claim.
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Lifthrasil: So? Why shouldn't a scum role cop take an interest in a player who votes him? I can't follow your logic here. I mostly mentioned that possibility because Carradice said that he'd investigated me. Of course he was scum and so might have been lying. It doesn't really matter anyhow, since it is speculation. Unless, of course, you want to share whom Carradice investigated? ;-)
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yogsloth: What I'm saying is if you're a scum tracker needing to fake some claims, you've got to be able to have plausible deniability.

If you've been role-copped as something that doesn't move, you're a safe tracker target claim.
Ah, OK. I somehow got what you wrote backwards. Thanks for the clarification.
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yogsloth: What I'm saying is if you're a scum tracker needing to fake some claims, you've got to be able to have plausible deniability.

If you've been role-copped as something that doesn't move, you're a safe tracker target claim.
Ah, you aren't saying Micro isn't a Tracker. You're saying he's scum tracker.

Why does the scum tracker absolutely need a safe target? He can report an honest investigation and get even more corroboration like that by the target.
I swear both micro and Flocke have really townie tone though

Who am I giving a free pass to that I shouldn't be
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dedoporno: Ah, you aren't saying Micro isn't a Tracker. You're saying he's scum tracker.

Why does the scum tracker absolutely need a safe target? He can report an honest investigation and get even more corroboration like that by the target.
No, I'm saying that it could very well be a totally fake claim.
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yogsloth: No, I'm saying that it could very well be a totally fake claim.
I see. Well, if it is - good for him. That means he have leveled up greatly and is also very lucky which as a combination deserves a win.


All this aside aside, one of my biggest issues right now is that in no case I can place 2 remaining scum together. Obviously they can be doing a great job but I'm also starting to wonder if there is in fact three of them left. Considering they had one unrestricted investigative role, how much is an always-on scum chat worth?
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dedoporno: All this aside aside, one of my biggest issues right now is that in no case I can place 2 remaining scum together. Obviously they can be doing a great job but I'm also starting to wonder if there is in fact three of them left. Considering they had one unrestricted investigative role, how much is an always-on scum chat worth?
4 scum in a 13 player game? C'mon man. No way.

Trying to read

trent is actually my dark horse to be scum if I'm wrong on all the mechanics lol
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yogsloth: 4 scum in a 13 player game? C'mon man. No way.
Not 4, I'm asking about 2. As in 1 left. I find it highly unlikely but I really don't know how much the always-on chat is worth. I don't think I've ever been a part of one or at least I don't remember.
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yogsloth: 4 scum in a 13 player game? C'mon man. No way.
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dedoporno: Not 4, I'm asking about 2. As in 1 left. I find it highly unlikely but I really don't know how much the always-on chat is worth. I don't think I've ever been a part of one or at least I don't remember.
Ah.

Well, seems unlikely, especially given that the one scum flip we have is "role cop" in what seems to be a role-light sort of game. But even if it's so, it's not relevant, really. You'd only know if you kept killing townies and the game kept going.

So... nobody else has any thoughts at all about micro's target selections?

Nobody else cares about who voted for whom?

Wild man, wild
OK, I'm about to drop offline for a few hours, so if I die que sera sera

If that happens, please some Townie pick up post 1137 and keep comparing vote histories

I'd recommend a full role claim Tomorrow with all target choices and rationale for every decision

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