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General discussionGOG Mafia #26: S.T.A.L.K.E.R - The Dangers of the Zone(1131 posts)(1131 posts)
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Posted March 10, 2015
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flubbucket: You seem quite confident you'll be alive for Day Two.

Fascinating.
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HijacK: Don't you remember the curse?
Everyday....but I'm guessing you're referring to something in the game.
Posted March 10, 2015
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HijacK: Don't you remember the curse?
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flubbucket: Everyday....but I'm guessing you're referring to something in the game.
Oh, no! I'm just confident scum think I have too big of a mouth to be worthwhile NKing. I could totally be wrong and that could be only wishful thinking on my part if I hit the jackpot with my suspect list, but there are just too many unknowns for me to make a call. I'm not saying I will survive, I'm just confident about it. I've been NK'd only once in so many games.
Posted March 10, 2015
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HijacK:
Let's just say my childhood is not one I would wish on anyone, and your question personal or not was offensive. Any form of harm to a person is wrong, but outright abuse is not a subject I wish to discuss in any form especially aimed at me. I understand your question was not personal, but is was uncalled for. Keep questions related to the game not to outside forces.

You see my motto of Loving Life, I love life and all those who have one deserve every chance to love theirs. I'm getting overly emotional again over it so I'll just let it go. Just drop it and all will be fine and forgiven.
Posted March 10, 2015
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Robbeasy: unvote Ixamyakxim
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adaliabooks: Interesting.

May I ask why? Do you buy his claim? (or lack of)
Or do you just think with further reading and evidence that he may not be scum?

I'm particularly interested as I'm kind of leaning that way myself, but my concern is that Night might be falling any minute now and we may have no lynch... which I think at this point isn't going to be good for us as it leaves us little to analyse tomorrow and one less townie as well.
Im aware night is fast coming upon us. Ix has said enough to convince me he is town. I dont like the oither wagon going (rWarehall) so I'm going against nearly everything I believe in a Mafia game and heading towards no-lynch.

If I had to pick out scum now I would go with -

Hijack and Jmich - been at it all day, but it really smacks to me of the pair of them having lots of fun. Conyinually picking fault with each others posts, but not really going anywhere with it.

Adaliabooks - a combination of what Ix has said and done has me convinced. The only people who could possibly not see it by now are scum, therefore you are on the list.

Flubb - lots of tiny little posts with no substance. Taking part, without taking part. Can come back with 'thats just my playstyle' , but that playstyle does nothing to help, therefore is scummy behaviour.


With Night drawing so close, is it not a good idea for us all to share our main suspects, so that if any of us don't survive the night we at least have something to go on?
Posted March 10, 2015
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trentonlf: Let's just say my childhood is not one I would wish on anyone, and your question personal or not was offensive. Any form of harm to a person is wrong, but outright abuse is not a subject I wish to discuss in any form especially aimed at me. I understand your question was not personal, but is was uncalled for. Keep questions related to the game not to outside forces.
Fair enough. I'm sorry to hear you had a rough childhood. I myself went through some really tough and hard times when I was a kid along with my family, so I understand what you are saying. Let's forget it happened and let bygones be bygones.

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trentonlf: You see my motto of Loving Life, I love life and all those who have one deserve every chance to love theirs. I'm getting overly emotional again over it so I'll just let it go. Just drop it and all will be fine and forgiven.
Already did. I'm not looking to harm anyone. Life is truly unique.
Posted March 10, 2015
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Robbeasy: With Night drawing so close, is it not a good idea for us all to share our main suspects, so that if any of us don't survive the night we at least have something to go on?
I agree with this, however keep in mind that scum can also NK someone to frame maybe the people on his/her list.
However, a lost of suspects should be shared with people just in case. We can distinguish whether someone on the list or off the list could have been responsible for NK through analyzing day 1 interactions.
Posted March 10, 2015
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HijacK: Love your reading comprehension even more. Does the word "now" mean nothing to you, as in what people are actually complaining of?
Now is an indication of time, not subject. So what you said meant "People had a day one role claim fest, and are complaining about it at this time". Not to mention that in post 350 you do confirm that game #23 was the game with the day one role fest, as a direct answer to my question.

But lovely to know that you do get rattled if people keep pushing you.


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HijacK: Oh, but I have. I have clearly explained the whole PM looks like a template that only has names and alignments changed. And interesting how you call me one of the scummiest now.
Funny, that would require you to have read at least two PMs. And I'm not sure if there is the same template for everyone, or even the same number of paragraphs. Either way, yes, the word loyalist isn't necessarily a tell for either faction.


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Robbeasy: Hijack and Jmich - been at it all day, but it really smacks to me of the pair of them having lots of fun. Conyinually picking fault with each others posts, but not really going anywhere with it.
Ship asylum, me and Vitek. Do you recall said situation? I am reminded of that one, though it is possible I'm mistaken.
Posted March 10, 2015
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HijacK: I have clearly explained the whole PM looks like a template that only has names and alignments changed.
OK, I know Trent asked to not go there, bud but I just can't help it. If there is something my PM doesn't look like that's a template with names and alignments changed. It features a very specific "good" theme that I highly doubt is present in the scum/anti-town factions.

Also, this

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HijacK: I will state it one last time, so you could understand, and if not, next time it will simply be an instant vote on you as a response.
Vote threatening?


I will use your wording, since you got that spot on:

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HijacK: Congratulations! You have solidified your position as my #1 suspect for a very long time.
My views on Ix have been somewhat shaken lately yet I stuck with him since, unlike Robbeasy, I'm not entirely persuaded and I'm against no-lynching.We seem to be getting there, so let's try something else.


unvote Ixamyakxim

vote HijacK
Posted March 10, 2015
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dedoporno: OK, I know Trent asked to not go there, bud but I just can't help it. If there is something my PM doesn't look like that's a template with names and alignments changed. It features a very specific "good" theme that I highly doubt is present in the scum/anti-town factions.
And apple trees grow pears and watermelons are actually vegetables.

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dedoporno: Vote threatening?
Got a problem with that?

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dedoporno: My views on Ix have been somewhat shaken lately yet I stuck with him since, unlike Robbeasy, I'm not entirely persuaded and I'm against no-lynching.We seem to be getting there, so let's try something else.

unvote Ixamyakxim

vote HijacK
Congratulations! We are officially the same! Vote splitters. Call me when you have something interesting for me. This is lackluster.
Posted March 10, 2015
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Robbeasy: With Night drawing so close, is it not a good idea for us all to share our main suspects, so that if any of us don't survive the night we at least have something to go on?
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HijacK: I agree with this, however keep in mind that scum can also NK someone to frame maybe the people on his/her list.
However, a lost of suspects should be shared with people just in case. We can distinguish whether someone on the list or off the list could have been responsible for NK through analyzing day 1 interactions.
If you agree, and especially as we have an unknown amount of time left, could we have a list of suspects then please?

Everyone else just going to ignore the question?
Posted March 10, 2015
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HijacK: I agree with this, however keep in mind that scum can also NK someone to frame maybe the people on his/her list.
However, a lost of suspects should be shared with people just in case. We can distinguish whether someone on the list or off the list could have been responsible for NK through analyzing day 1 interactions.
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Robbeasy: If you agree, and especially as we have an unknown amount of time left, could we have a list of suspects then please?

Everyone else just going to ignore the question?
I believe I already listed my suspects, but instead I have a better idea.

I will give a ranking of the players as I see them. Top as towniest (but not necessarily leaning town in a heavily manner), while the bottom are the scummiest.

CSPVG - A lot more invested in this game than before. I see the 48 hour thing and time uncertainty does wonders.
Sage103082 - Sage has made some very pro town remarks so far. In spite of me not always agreeing with her, she does a wonderful job at contributing.
TwilightBard - Twilight is kinda in the meh zone. Slightly leaning town, but just a gut feeling. Nothing solid on him.
Krypsyn - Kryps has been playing in a way I've never seen him do and so far his actions brought results, thus he is slightly leaning town.
Robbeasy - Robb was at one point the 4th or 5th on my scum suspect list, but he seems more invested in acquiring info than going head first into a lynch. Whether it is genuine town concern or a scum move it is unknown, thus he is pretty much neutral.
Ixamyakxim - Ix looked slightly suspicious at one point, and while I don't get his explanations or thought pattern he does have a genuine town play. Moved him to neutral for now.
adaliabooks - Books is kinda in the meh neutral zone. Pretty much got nothing on him.
flubbucket - Flubby is treated the same. He always seems to point out the things that raise his brow, but that's could go for both alignments. Waiting to see him more invested.
HypersomniacLive - Not nearly as interesting as last game. His analysis hasn't been around much either. While I don't agree with lynching lurkers, he does seem to have a postphobia this time.
JMich - Contributes with absolutely nothing. Became so boring I started ignoring him. If behavior continues, I'll move him to suspect list on account of not helping.
dedoporno - Town tell was weak. The "good" adjective to describe his PM is weak. I explained in some pretty old post by now, one that I posted when dedo just made his 'brilliant' clue known, that PMs look like they have same structure, different names, roles, alignments, and flavor. Your PM has a "good" theme? Well, duh! The flavor is changed, like what the hell? Plus, I don't buy this "My PM has a 'good' theme thing" as him being town. Everybody can say this. Somewhat leaning scum.
Bookwyrm627 - His early posts were fairly brutal. I didn't like advocating lynching lurkers. It's an argument to be had in later days, but day one? Oh, boy. If that were the case CSPVG would have been day 1 lynch all previous games. Somewhat leaning scum.
trentonlf - Repeats the same arguments after I explain them and constantly pushes them. I dislike repeating the same thing only to get the same argument thrown in my face or a paraphrased version of it at best. Leans scum.
RWarehall - Argumentting one player's scumminess and unvoting that player then voting for someone who has a wagon on him just to move it, combined with a 24 hour late "reason", if you could call it like that, for that said vote just does it for me. No way that's town play.
Posted March 10, 2015
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Robbeasy: Im aware night is fast coming upon us. Ix has said enough to convince me he is town. I dont like the oither wagon going (rWarehall) so I'm going against nearly everything I believe in a Mafia game and heading towards no-lynch.

If I had to pick out scum now I would go with -

Hijack and Jmich - been at it all day, but it really smacks to me of the pair of them having lots of fun. Conyinually picking fault with each others posts, but not really going anywhere with it.

Adaliabooks - a combination of what Ix has said and done has me convinced. The only people who could possibly not see it by now are scum, therefore you are on the list.

Flubb - lots of tiny little posts with no substance. Taking part, without taking part. Can come back with 'thats just my playstyle' , but that playstyle does nothing to help, therefore is scummy behaviour.

With Night drawing so close, is it not a good idea for us all to share our main suspects, so that if any of us don't survive the night we at least have something to go on?
I can understand how you would see that my continued presence on Ix's wagon might be seen as scummy, and no doubt this will too:

Unvote Ixamyakxim

But like you I'm not sure I buy it any more, and while no lynch is certainly a danger it doesn't look like my vote on Ix would help prevent that. I believe we have been barking up the wrong tree.

As for my list of scummiest players:

Hijack - up until now I'd written Hijack off as just doing what Hijack does, but he seems determined to push (what I see as) faulty arguments. I think there is something off there.

Sage - seems to be lurking a bit and not too involved, reminds me of the last couple of games where she has been neutral or scum and not saying much to try not give anything away.

Krypsyn - he's come across a bit less scummy in the last few (real) days but I'm still thinking his behaviour earlier was scummy enough to keep him on my list.
Posted March 10, 2015
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HijacK: JMich - Contributes with absolutely nothing. Became so boring I started ignoring him. If behavior continues, I'll move him to suspect list on account of not helping.
So rattling someone's cage and catching them in logical fallacies is absolutely nothing and boring, and reason for OMGUS.

Gotcha.

You do realize that your analysis becomes meaningless if you can't even defend your own posts, right?
Posted March 10, 2015
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Robbeasy: If you agree, and especially as we have an unknown amount of time left, could we have a list of suspects then please?

Everyone else just going to ignore the question?
1. HijacK
2. Krypsyn
3. TwilightBard

I may go back to Ixamyakxim's wagon if my vote is the only one needed for securing a lynch (sorry, Ix, I just can't accept no-lynch if I can help it), but I no longer see that happening.
Posted March 10, 2015
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Robbeasy: With Night drawing so close, is it not a good idea for us all to share our main suspects, so that if any of us don't survive the night we at least have something to go on?
HypersomniacLive
TwilightBard
JMich
Bookwyrm627
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General discussionGOG Mafia #26: S.T.A.L.K.E.R - The Dangers of the Zone(1131 posts)(1131 posts)
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