I have no action, and no knowledge of any action been directed towards me. I'm trying to piece together the night action timeline, and waiting for confirmation of the existence of a doctor, before attempting to read more into the various roles.

Well, seemingly we'd have no way to prove or disprove your first statement. But in theory either it means you're town, or you were the NK action. It would be a bold claim if were uncertain about the presence of protection left on the table, at least.

The game would be simpler if you were the lone night killer. Alas, I'm not convinced the game is simple.

On the latter point, I'm at least curious how long you're inclined to wait considering we waited all through D3, and probably don't want to wait until there's a deadline to proceed in D4. So you might just want to lay out what your read is if there isn't one, and what your read is if there is as separate theories.

And then we'll have to weigh on which is the better course and hope we guess right.

There are currently 3 people who cannot have done the murders. CSPVG, QuadrAlien and bler. All 3 of those had night actions, that at least one other person can verify.
That leaves 4 people. Me, HijacK, Bookwyrm and Leonard. If there is indeed a doctor, then that would possibly clear at least one more person from said list.

Now, HijacK has already mentioned he has powers, and multiple of those, and that they are related to strength. Now, if we also accept QuadrAlien's claim as true, that also clears bookwyrm. While I do accept the possibility of an agile fighter, a cop that steals items doesn't sit that well with me.

So, current thoughts, pending extra data, is that I will be willing to go after HijacK and/or Leonard, with bookwyrm being my third vote option. At least one of those 3 has killed, unless of course you assume that I am the one that has been doing the killings.

So, again, has there been any other protections since the one Lift claimed to have received, or was that claim a bogus one to help lynch trent?

Where did Hijack do that? I totally missed it.

I will add two things:
1) For me the vote today comes down to JMich vs. Hijack
2) Thinking it was Wyrm OR JMich, I visited Wyrm last night.

I undervalued the strongman possibility until after I'd submitted my action. And unlike Vitek, Yog doesn't seem to accept backsies. Given how much effort he puts into writing the story, I can't blame him.

I'm not entirely sure to make of what I found, but for now I'd really rather not say, and if Wyrm is town, I'd rather HE not say for now what I would have found either. There's an obvious conclusion and a more devious conclusion, but either way I'm reasonably certain he's not the NK. I'd like town to indulge me on that. So I can't clear Wyrm, but I don't think he's today's target or that his role sheds much light on who today's target should be.

Personally I'd like JMich, Hijack, and Leonard to go ahead and full claim (race class stats role flavor), and would give Wyrm a pass for now. If Hijack did tease actions, I'd be somewhat inclined to lean that way but will evaluate after we see those 3 claims.

I'd also say that, since hijack was investigated N1 if he is scum he's had what, 2-3 weeks of real time to come up with a bluff, so I think there's reason to take whatever he says with a grain of salt, but I think we need to see it anyway.

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Hmmm...clearly I need to read today's posts much closer. That is a pretty big whopper I just skimmed over - both the mention of his own talents and his follow-up to throw shade on Leonard.

I'll blame it on being caught up in the implications of QA's post and providing childcare. ;)

Any chance you'll go ahead and claim while we wait for Hijack?

Sure. I'm Totesevil Nastinez, Demonic Hellspawn (TOWN VANILLA) STR 8 / AGI 8 / CHR 3 / INT 5. Make of that what you will.

Ummm...Is that fer serious? What's your flavor there, Hellspawn McEvil?

There's no McEvil there ;) Paraphrasing, Demon with a heart of gold, disappointment to parents, try to keep quite and help when I can. Excellent fighter, nil on the powers department.
I'm stepping off the podium now, time for others to speak.

You don't seem phased by a sorcerer who can't cast for squat, you don't seem bothered by an archer with the agility of a 2 year old, you don't blink at telekinesis, no word about the intelligence-loving painful-mind/aura-reading orc, but you stumble on a kleptomaniac cop?

Other notes:
-Yes, I had my pack searched twice last night.

-If Hijack is scum, he can't have done all of the NK's unless we either have another role blocker or someone wants to counter claim being role blocked on Night 2. I strongly doubt Flub would have held off on Night 2 after having used his ability on Night 1.

-I'm extra interested in JMich's claim now, since exactly two vanilla seems odd. I'm not sure what to make of it if Leonard and JMich both claim vanilla.

-I guess I'm claiming last, then? Or am I going to sit and chill while remaining unclaimed for today? o.O

-If anyone somehow gets the odd idea that No Lynch is a good idea, I request that you instead vote for yogsloth; I expect it will have roughly the same effect, but it would test a theory. I do realize I'm probably being too paranoid after some reading I've done.

1) Did it really take me 30 minutes to put that post together? Ugh.

2) Ninjas freaking everywhere; I really need to remember to refresh before posting.

3) You are claiming to be a good aligned HELL SPAWN, and you're complaining about a cop who likes to steal "evidence"?

Yes, and yes. Flavor wise taking stuff from backpacks fits a role cop or flavor cop more than a normal one, and they are usually mafia aligned. I don't say it's impossible, I just say that while QuadrAlien is in the clear for now (he can't have done any of the 3 night kills), his claim will have to be reevaluated later on, assuming we do make it that far.

I don't know what to do.
Are we sure that there are three mafia out there right now? I guess there would have to be for game balance.

Well, at the end of yesterday I was assuming 2 & 2. Something about Wyrm makes me re-evaluate that. I won't say what yet, and I think we do need to talk about @Wyrm before the day is out. But he's almost certainly not the killer. So I'd really prefer he not claim now, personally. But I'm back to assuming it's 3. If it's two we're in luck but the goal today either way is to find the primary killer.

Right now the pool of possibles is, again, JMich, Leonard, and Hijack (strongman). I think that's where the focus needs to be at least until a direction for today starts to take shape. And that means all 3 of you need to claim. JMich has, so that leave you and Hijack.

Last game JMich established that he's averse to town ever bluffing, so I can see where he could see telling the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, consistent with his credo. We're different players, since my view is that sometimes town should bluff.

And at least on that name, man, he should have bluffed. I can see Yog having some fun with 2 demons on the table, one of whom is guilty and one who isn't, but dear god - bluff that name shit! :)


Unrelated:

@QA - any chance you'll explain why you chose Wyrm last night? I know I chose the same target, but I really want to know what your selection process was.

I'm sorry, but I do object to that. Without concrete evidence that he can't be the one, clearing any person could mean that we lose the game. So no, don't ask us to take it on faith. wyrm remains in the pool of suspects, and I would like him to claim as well. After all, if we mislynch, we lose, claim or no claim. So better to have his claim than not.