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Hey umm..recently started using linux and like it except the limitations for games and programmes etc available for it compared to windows,

Basically wondering... the old dos based games on here are pre set up to run on modern systems using dosbox, right?

I also know old windows games can run on linux via dosbox as it emulates the necessary environment....(although using dosbox in windows is so much easier and straightforward , I'm still trying to figure it out in linux)

So....is there any way to make games like the KQ series on here to run on linux even if they are listed as windows only by accessing and changing the dosbox commands used? Or...no?
Post edited October 19, 2019 by Winterborn
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Winterborn: Basically wondering... the old dos based games on here are pre set up to run on modern systems using dosbox, right?
Correct

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Winterborn: I also know old windows games can run on linux via dosbox as it emulates the necessary environment....(although using dosbox in windows is so much easier and straightforward , I'm still trying to figure it out in linux)
Not really correct unless you mean Windows 3.11 or older. For running games made for Windows, you want Wine and possibly other programs as well like DXVK.

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Winterborn: So....is there any way to make games like the KQ series on here to run on linux even if they are listed as windows only by accessing and changing the dosbox commands used? Or...no?
Yes, two ways but both demand that you have some understanding on how DOSBox works. Read up here: https://www.dosbox.com/DOSBoxManual.html

So the two (or three) ways would be either unpacking the Windows installer with Innoextract or, less neat, installing it in Wine in Linux and then moving it to where you want ( like /home) or just playing it in Wine.
Post edited October 19, 2019 by Themken
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Winterborn: Basically wondering... the old dos based games on here are pre set up to run on modern systems using dosbox, right?
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Themken: Correct

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Winterborn: I also know old windows games can run on linux via dosbox as it emulates the necessary environment....(although using dosbox in windows is so much easier and straightforward , I'm still trying to figure it out in linux)
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Themken: Not really correct unless you mean Windows 3.11 or older. For running games made for Windows, you want Wine and possibly other programs as well like DXVK.

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Winterborn: So....is there any way to make games like the KQ series on here to run on linux even if they are listed as windows only by accessing and changing the dosbox commands used? Or...no?
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Themken: Yes, two ways but both demand that you have some understanding on how DOSBox works. Read up here: https://www.dosbox.com/DOSBoxManual.html

So the two (or three) ways would be either unpacking the Windows installer with Innoextract or, less neat, installing it in Wine in Linux and then moving it to where you want ( like /home) or just playing it in Wine.
Ok, will take a look, thankyou for the help and info. :)
Any benchmarks to test gaming capability on Linux? I know some games come with in-game benchmarks and guess they are just perfect. Just cannot remember other games than Firestarter but that one is a bit too old as does it really matter if it runs at 300 or 400 F/s?
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Themken: Any benchmarks to test gaming capability on Linux? I know some games come with in-game benchmarks and guess they are just perfect. Just cannot remember other games than Firestarter but that one is a bit too old as does it really matter if it runs at 300 or 400 F/s?
I use GALLIUM_HUD, VK_LAYER_MESA_overlay and DXVK_HUD for that purpose.
Post edited October 20, 2019 by shmerl
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shmerl: I use GALLIUM_HUD, VK_LAYER_MESA_overlay and DXVK_HUD for that purpose.
Thanks! Will see if I can manage to install these. Just curious what kind of a bump in performance I am getting.
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Themken: Thanks! Will see if I can manage to install these. Just curious what kind of a bump in performance I am getting.
Just to clarify, you don't need to install them. GALLIUM_HUD, VK_LAYER_MESA_overlay are part of Mesa, and DXVK_HUD is built in feature in dxvk. So it should be available out of the box for AMD users at least.

Nvidia users have harder time, at least with OpenGL, due to them not being part of Gallium3D. VK_LAYER_MESA_overlay and DXVK_HUD will work for Nvidia blob as well though.

Some references:

* VK_LAYER_MESA_overlay.
* DXVK_HUD (works both for dxvk and d9vk).
* GALLIUM_HUD
Post edited October 23, 2019 by shmerl
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shmerl:
Oh I see. I did not use Linux much on my desktop, mainly on laptops without graphics cards. Now I have a lot to learn.
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AndrewMartin: Sorry if this has been covered in one of the previous 71 pages, but I'm finding that I can play all the games I want to play through wine if I run the installer every time, and click "launch game" after the installation. So really, I'm quite happy with that situation, as it's a fairly minor inconvenience, but I can't work out how to make the games work though wine without re-installing.

Does anyone have tip on this specific case? I've tried copying the important params from the desktop link and the launcher in the installation directory, but I've had no luck so far.

(FWIW, here are the games I currently have installed Banished, 'Interstate 76', 'Lands Of Lore', 'Legend of Kyrandia - Hand of Fate', LIMBO, 'Might and Magic 7', 'Mini Metro', 'Monkey Island 1 SE', 'Space Quest 4', 'Space Quest 5,' 'Torchlight 2', 'Ultima Underworld')
and totally separate the game+dependencies from the software of your base system just doesn't work that well in practice. Which is not so much a problem as long as the base systems are still relatively similar. But since you specifically asked about long-term preservation, like 15 years, I still believe the form of packaging doesn't really solve that issue.
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Post edited October 23, 2019 by JANCYBEN
Why did GOG make their folder "GOG Games" with a space in them?! Grr! I admit, it is a tiny thing but still.
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Themken: Why did GOG make their folder "GOG Games" with a space in them?! Grr! I admit, it is a tiny thing but still.
Yeah, I never use their default location anyway. Everything goes in $HOME/games/some_game. No spaces naturally, all lower case.
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shmerl:
I tried getting it to work with "" marks but no, it still faults when it does not read past /GOG.

EDIT: Guess I can tell that I got my games working by removing all spaces. Some distros do not like spaces in path names, be it folders or file names with them in.
Post edited October 27, 2019 by Themken
Is there somewhere a list of games which may (at least for some people) work under Linux without them having an officially supported Linux version?

I know there is a list here https://www.gog.com/forum/general/adamhms_linux_wine_wrappers_news_faq_discussion/post3 but this looks rather like a "sure to run" list and its rather short compared to the number of games on GOG now.
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SStefania: You can find more answers and technical help in our General Linux Troubleshooting FAQ!
The link doesnt work for me. It redirects to https://support.gog.com/hc/en-us instead.


Edit: And I get the impression that Mint support has been dropped. Where can I find some updated information about GOG vs Linux?
Post edited October 31, 2019 by Zrevnur
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Zrevnur:
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/the_judas_does_this_run_in_wine_thread_v1173

Official Linux support on GOG.com is minimal.
Post edited October 31, 2019 by Themken
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Themken: Thanks! Will see if I can manage to install these. Just curious what kind of a bump in performance I am getting.
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shmerl: Just to clarify, you don't need to install them. GALLIUM_HUD, VK_LAYER_MESA_overlay are part of Mesa, and DXVK_HUD is built in feature in dxvk. So it should be available out of the box for AMD users at least.

Nvidia users have harder time, at least with OpenGL, due to them not being part of Gallium3D. VK_LAYER_MESA_overlay and DXVK_HUD will work for Nvidia blob as well though.

Some references:

* VK_LAYER_MESA_overlay.
* DXVK_HUD (works both for dxvk and d9vk).
* GALLIUM_HUD
About the bolded part: Is this a general thing that Nvidia is bad on a Linux gaming machine? Probably due to no open source drivers? What kind of gfx card do I optimally get? My priorities are in this order:
1. Reliability - it should last as long as possible not have a 50% chance to drop dead after 1 year of gaming
2. Compatibility (GOG games mostly)
3. Performance
Thx.
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Themken: Official Linux support on GOG.com is minimal.
Anybody made a ticket or sth to complain about this? At least they should update the stickied post here...
Post edited October 31, 2019 by Zrevnur