HypersomniacLive: @bler144, could you elaborate on why you're holding back on saying who it was you robbed? You have avoided answering any of my previous questions about this. Also wonder if you'd have come out and said it wasn't me, if I hadn't claimed the way I did.

trentonlf: I am seeing that, and it sure does make it fun too I think. Someone is lying their ass off right now and it's going to be fun to figure out who it is :)

drealmer7: actually if you're wolf you pretty much are going to have to eventually fake claim and there's 2 "better" ways to go about playing it depending on how things are:

1.) If you're a lone wolf, claim seer, and claim EARLY, before the true seer claims (if there is one - but you hope for the seer being in the 3-pile), because generally the 2nd seer claim is going to be more likely doubted by more people. You can also do this if you're not a lone wolf but it's not as "tight" of a play.

2.) wait as long as possible to claim and try to claim one of the 3-pile cards that the true seer didn't peek/can't refute (like if there are 2 villager cards in the 3-pile but they spied a player instead, etc.) - generally the later the claim the more fishy it looks, because this is a game ALL about laying out claims and parsing what is true v. what is lies v. what is thought to be true. obviously

You're right on track here. I see zeo being able to anticipate doing this move, not cristi, as I noted in my previous posting about wanting to get caught in the error. The problem with that as you say is most of us are new, BUT, I'm not, and I think zeo knows I'm not, he could very well be counting on me catching the slip, or not. Who knows. Safest bet is to hope we can pinpoint a true minion or werewolf otherwise - zeo is a backburner item now imo and we must sort all the rest (as I continue to read...)

adaliabooks: snip

bler144: I could tell you were eyeing me since the start, and I'm not entirely sure what that's about.

Hunter65536: Nice list!

zeogold: Also, welcome to Hunter. Would you care to join the villager train, or are you gonna give us a little excitement?

zeogold: Edit via post:
It's worth mentioning that Bler could be lying, too. He very well might not be a robber, considering I have no idea what the third unknown card was. He could also be lying about what he stole. Could very well have taken somebody's minion/tanner/werewolf card and be saying he's a villager. All he needs to do is wait for somebody to claim they're a villager and say he robbed them. Chances are that they won't deny it.

zeogold: He said that he robbed either Trent, Adalia, or Drealmer. He said that one of them was a villager. There are 3 villagers in the game, so if you pick 3 people out of ten, assuming all villagers in play (there's not 3, but nobody knew that until I revealed that I found one of them), chances are one of them will likely be a villager.
Let's assume, just for the sake of argument, that Trent is a villager and Drealmer is our werewolf. Bler robs Drealmer, then puts those 3 up saying he found a villager. Adalia goes "Nope, mason here." Trent comes out and says "Yeah, I'm a villager." Drealmer joins in and says "AWOOOO- ...I mean, uh, yeah, so am I!" Then Bler says "Well, I robbed Trent! So now he's a robber and I'm a villager and everything's hunky dory! Yay!" when in reality, he's now our werewolf.

It's a bit of a farfetched scenario, I'll admit, but take into consideration that he also could've robbed a tanner, minion, or hunter, meaning that pretty much anything he says after that is pure bait anyways.
As you've noted, I have a fair bit of experience with this game (although I'm certainly no pro), and I can tell you the one thing that I've learned the hard way and always forget:
Never take what the robber at face value. Bler could be telling the truth (and probably is), but I've seen way too many games where everybody gets duped because the robber confirms himself but lies about who he stole from. Pretty much the only way to clear him is to make him say who he robbed and what they are and have that person back him up on it, but it's a bit late for that considering that one of the 3 have already claimed villager.

adaliabooks: Got anything to add to it? ;)

zeogold: Um...how do you know that Bler robbed you and not Trent? o_O

zeogold: You haven't answered my question of why you think Bler robbed you and not Trent, though.

drealmer7: so, which is it? tanner or minion?

the thing about the robber is that GENERALLY if they drew wolf from a player they'll claim robber who DIDN'T SWITCH THEIR CARD, because the new robber thinks they are a wolf and then they can use that against them and get them lynched. if the robber draws a villager role (except hunter), they claim it True: seer, troublemaker, mason, or villager. As a new player, I don't think bler would have spoken up so soon if he drew tanner, minion, or wolf, but he might. Because the safest claim as we all know is plain vanillager because it is where the baddies hide!

zeogold: Ah, I didn't see your edit...
Um...we're allowed to make edits? o_O
Ok...
I'm curious as to what makes you immediately go for me. You don't seem to be suspicious of Cristi in the least or even so much as admit she could be lying. Just me.
I'm not saying there's a partnership here, but I would like to hear your reasoning. Just because I made the first claim...?

drealmer7: HSL lone wolf who peeked troublemaker from the 3-pile
zeo minion to HSL

Hunter65536:

zeogold: Still waiting for a claim from you. It would not only be helpful, but add to the general madness, which makes things way more fun.

drealmer7: I don't! I was being hopeful, and because of what he said about what I said in the signup thread.

Hunter65536: I am not who you think I am; I am not who I think I am; I am who I think you think I am