dedoporno: On the other hand this is the first time I see you (or anyone for that matter) pointing out that someone neglected to list caveats.
Krypsyn: If I see someone making a a possibly unwarranted assumption, I call them on it and/or ask for elaboration. It could be innocent, or it could be a slip. I wouldn't want to assume either way without first getting all the data I can.
just wanna chip in here with a few quotes of yourself were you pointed out 4 scum was a reasonable estimate.
Krypsyn: I didn't refresh and missed this. In a 16 player game, 4 scum would be the number of scum assuming a basic game. The rule of thumb is that the square root of players should be on the scum team; in this case 4. Many factors can change this (such as neutral roles and handicapped town roles), which is why the figure might be lower. Three to four scum is actually a reasonable estimate for a 16 player game.
Krypsyn: As for the rest of it, even if he assumed the player count to be 14 (for whatever reason), 3-4 scum is still a good estimate assuming only one scum-team. (I would assume 5 scum if there are multiple scum-teams and 16 people).
Don't know why you now want yogs to list all the same caveats, you already did when he just made the same assumption. If we really always need to list every possibility so as not to look scummy, soon there'll be people with standardised disclaimers at the bottom of each post. For me a "probably" should suffice.
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Krypsyn: The trouble I have with yogsloth is that I want to believe he is town, and I did for much of the day yesterday. However, after I hinted that he may have had a restriction and thus claimed first thing so that the restriction might be lifted (so that, you know, he could actually investigate Night 1), he said I "don't know shit". So... if that isn't what was going on, then my most pro-town theory of what he was doing is out the window. I am at a loss for what he was actually doing, however, since that doesn't seem to be what was going on, by his own words (because, you know, I "don't know shit").
that's quite a stretch from what I read from you, you were never that much into believing yogs yesterday the way I read it:
yogsloth: The cabal of JMich, agent, and dedo all seem to possibly be hip to my groove.
Krypsyn: But not me? Perhaps I have been to subtle. I'll try again.
Sometimes, making bold statements gives meaning to potential. Occasionally, naming a thing with give it power. Jokers are wild, and I suspect you are playing with a deck of 54.
Are we there yet?
Krypsyn: Interesting. Perhaps I was mistaken then. Nothing for it:
Unvote: Krypsyn Vote: yogsloth adaliabooks: Considering the use of card analogies going on... is that your poker face? ;)
Krypsyn: Ahh... perhaps it was... in which case I should remove my vote. I am uncertain.
I had a theory about what he is doing, however, and it is really the only one that makes sense to me. He has indicated that he has no clue to what I am alluding, however, so that just leaves a player role-claiming without provocation. I find this extremely anti-town and worthy of a vote. last part bolded by me.
As for the thing about restrictions you didn't get it until it was spelled out for you:
Krypsyn: But, perhaps not, since I am going to switch my vote back to HijacK. I was planning to do so anyway, since it doesn't seem the adaliabooks wagon is going anywhere. This recent claim from HijacK makes me even more certain. I am just not buying his claim. It is too convenient; plausible, but unconfirmable until someone else dies.
Unvote: adaliabooks Vote: HijacK agentcarr16: So it's not visible to you, either. For me, HijacK's claim is basically the one way he could convince me he's Townie. Any other claim would be suspicious.
Krypsyn: Unlikely, because this isn't a pressure vote looking for a certain response this time. ;)
agentcarr16: Now I'm wondering if you're mafia. That's too simplistic for you.
I realize effort is difficult for you, Kryps, buddy ;) but you're capable of figuring out several great reasons that HijacK's claim is Townie. Think about yogsloth's claim.
unvote no-lynch No, I'm not changing my opinion about the viability of no-lynch, but now I've got a target.
Vo-o-o-ote... Krypsyn Not trying is scummy.
So I think I'll go with the deathwish of our poor deceased and confirmed town doctor and
unvote flubbucket vote Krypsyn ps: flubs you are not off the hook, but I think krypsyn is scummier right now. You just may be neutral
