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Posted July 20, 2016
Another thing. I will be bold because one player must be lying.

Flubbucket basically just "revealed" himself to be a tracker. As in "I tracked Bookwyrm Noght 1, he visited no one. Now Bookwyrm is lying. Lynch all liars."

Problem: if Bookwyrm is lying, then he did so superb from the beginning - a long game. Flubbucket just gave a convenient piece of information without going more in any discussion whatsoever. Either flubbucket is lying and therefore, he belongs to a cult, or Bookwyrm is. We can't risk to lynch deprogrammer, and flubbucket can't be deprogrammer, because he wouldn't know if Bookwyrm visited anyone.

We must lynch flubbucket.

By the way, scum team from my perspective:

Docbear
Ixamyakxim
flubbucket

All three want to eliminate deprogrammer. What is wrong with them?
Posted July 20, 2016
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Dessimu:
@dess - didn't read your last post until after I submitted.

I've had Ixam as town since the beginning. Doesn't mean he could be converted. I'm starting to get a headache, need to call it a night. Will revisit this (and your latest) tomorrow. (Thanks for the bump).
Posted July 20, 2016
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cristigale:
We have a morning here. Goodnight :)

One proposal could be this:

Lynch flubbucket now. Flips tracker - Bookwyrm should be lynched next. Flips cultist - we move on to another suspect. Flips town - I don't know what to think.

Another proposal would be to lynch docbear, because I think she is either CL or cultist. Why is docbear still voting the deprogrammer based on "I think he was town, but is now recruited"? That assumption is rather curious and taken way too seriously, leading in the lynch of DP. And only cult should want to do so.

I will be voting docbear and I am perfectly fine on jumping on either flubbucket or Ixamyakxim as well.
Posted July 20, 2016
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Official vote count:

Bookwyrm: 2 - docbear, flubbucket
agentcarr: 1 - drealmer
docbear: 2 - Bookwyrm, Dessimu

It takes 5 to lynch. Bookwyrm and docbear are tied at L-3

Not voting: agent, cristi, Fantasy, Ixam
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Posted July 20, 2016
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cristigale: At least my heart was in the right place. :-)
I'm trying to remember where the road paved with good intentions leads to... Hmmm...
Posted July 20, 2016
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agentcarr16: I'm no longer suspicious of flubbucket because I have gleaned some information that indicates he's probably not a threat.
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cristigale: Are you planning to share this information? I am still suspicious of flubb, but the reasons are not very sound.
Yes, I am. The timing is tricky, though.
Posted July 20, 2016
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Dessimu: Another thing. I will be bold because one player must be lying.

Flubbucket basically just "revealed" himself to be a tracker. As in "I tracked Bookwyrm Noght 1, he visited no one. Now Bookwyrm is lying. Lynch all liars."

Problem: if Bookwyrm is lying, then he did so superb from the beginning - a long game. Flubbucket just gave a convenient piece of information without going more in any discussion whatsoever. Either flubbucket is lying and therefore, he belongs to a cult, or Bookwyrm is. We can't risk to lynch deprogrammer, and flubbucket can't be deprogrammer, because he wouldn't know if Bookwyrm visited anyone.

We must lynch flubbucket.

By the way, scum team from my perspective:

Docbear
Ixamyakxim
flubbucket

All three want to eliminate deprogrammer. What is wrong with them?
So Bookwyrm627 actually lying about his Night One actions more than once means nothing to you??

I have value as long as I'm protected by the deprogrammer each Night.

Why would you insist on lynching me??
Posted July 20, 2016
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flubbucket: So Bookwyrm627 actually lying about his Night One actions more than once means nothing to you??

I have value as long as I'm protected by the deprogrammer each Night.

Why would you insist on lynching me??
Because I do not trust you. Either you lie, or Bookwyrm does. There is no other way for me to know for sure other than get a flip. We lynch you and your flip shall be either proof of you lying or proof of Bookwyrm lying. Simple as that.

And if you are so certain of Bookwyrm lying, do you have any more info to share? Or just that one line?

And where exactly are those "more than once" lies? Can you provide them with quotes?
Posted July 20, 2016
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Dessimu: ....................

And if you are so certain of Bookwyrm lying, do you have any more info to share? Or just that one line?

And where exactly are those "more than once" lies? Can you provide them with quotes?
I have more but sharing is challenging at this moment. My targets would become WIFOM fodder and detract from the fact Bookwyrm is lying.

He stated more than once he made a Night One visit.

I know he didn't. If you want "quotes" then ISO Bookwyrm627.

I have no reason to lie, and am now fully exposed and dependent on the real deprogrammer to find the cult leader.
Posted July 20, 2016
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Dessimu: ....................

And if you are so certain of Bookwyrm lying, do you have any more info to share? Or just that one line?

And where exactly are those "more than once" lies? Can you provide them with quotes?
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flubbucket: I have more but sharing is challenging at this moment. My targets would become WIFOM fodder and detract from the fact Bookwyrm is lying.

He stated more than once he made a Night One visit.

I know he didn't. If you want "quotes" then ISO Bookwyrm627.

I have no reason to lie, and am now fully exposed and dependent on the real deprogrammer to find the cult leader.
But even so, you only say Bookwyrm did not visit anyone. Does that make him an enemy? A cultist? Why not a townie? If Bookwyrm was a cultist, wouldn't have the real DP deprogrammed him? Cultist-bookwyrm would have died. If Bookwyrm was CL, he would now be powerless. So we lynch you. If you are the tracker, Bookwyrm may very well be CL. It's a win win. We lynch Bookwyrm then.

By the way, are you the tracker or are you not? Because for now I only assume you are.
Posted July 20, 2016
I am the tracker.
Posted July 20, 2016
Another thing. If you now sort of claim to be a tracker, that may very well be true. The simplest thing - no one will challange you with "LAL - I am the real tracker!"

But here is a catch. You might have been recruited and whatever you found back then, now is worthless for town. In such a way, that your winning goal is same as of cult. And you can no longer track anyone. But you can expose yourself and even if your lie gets you lynched, CL lives another night.

We just have to lynch you now.
Posted July 20, 2016
If you reread THIS day's posts things will become clearer.
Posted July 20, 2016
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cristigale: my track record isn't much better - I killed two townie's thinking I was protecting them (Bookwyrm - were you the one who got their insides ripped out?). At least my heart was in the right place. :-)
Oh yeah, I forgot to list that one. Yes, I was the town cop that got his insides ripped out (because I slept with a clock that night, for comfort), a few Days after I got town to lynch the other town cop.

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flubbucket: So Bookwyrm627 actually lying about his Night One actions more than once means nothing to you??

I have value as long as I'm protected by the deprogrammer each Night.

Why would you insist on lynching me??
So you tracked me Night 1, see that I didn't go anywhere, and somehow think I haven't been lying until I actually say I went somewhere?

I don't know where your head is at, Flub. Awkward: I know you aren't a cultist, and I'm pretty sure you aren't the CL either.
Posted July 20, 2016
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Bookwyrm627: I don't know where your head is at, Flub. Awkward: I know you aren't a cultist, and I'm pretty sure you aren't the CL either.
How do you know that?
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