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ZFR: OK. Please be aware that this is not a roleplay game though. You should play as the player, the characters Zephyr, Koro Koro and the rest are just flavour to make the game a bit interesting to read. You can roleplay if you wish, many auers do, but the objective is to figure out which faction the player, not the character, belongs to.

(Don't mean to sound belligerent, but we got a tough D2 ahead of us if we end up voting Fran)
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Korotan: If this is not a roleplay why did then Saphhire RP and gave each of us a RP character?
Think of it like a football game where just for the fun of it we decide to dress up as dwarves and orcs. You may paint your skin green and write "Gortak" on your jersey, but remember the goal of the game is still to kick the ball between the goalposts, and not to capture Khaz Modan.
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HypersomniacLive: [emphasis added]

Do you think this is a new approach from scum!supplementscene in order not to repeat mistakes from the past?
Since he's not a new player to a number of us, he should know that we keep an eye on him, and that his play this game has attracted as much attention as his previous ones. What do you make of the fact that he doesn't seem (particularly?) concerned about all this?

[emphasis added]

I assume that you don't see their attitude the way dedoporno and I do, yes? I understand that you're pretty hard locked on supplementscene, but from what we've seen so far, do you expect Fran67 to start playing D2 and onwards? I mean, play for real, engage others and do some game solving?

I'd appreciate a bump.
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trentonlf: I find it interesting with Scene that once I started pointing out that he was not invested and his posts up to that point had been very blasé that he became a lot more active and started giving analysis. He used the excuse that he needed the day to progress before he could give any real analysis, and that excuse stinks IMO. My guess is he was trying to lay low at the start of the game and realized it was causing him to look bad. I could be wrong, but he feels off this game. I also had to laugh when he said “It’s been awhile since I played mafia, it takes 7 to lynch right?” Maybe he doesn’t know how to do math anymore to figure out what a majority vote is? Looks like to me that he’s trying to appear “unsure” of things to try and garner some sympathy.

No, I actually agree with you and Dedo about Fran. I just wish we could get more info from their lynch if they are not scum because it’s an easy wagon to be on without looking bad.
Below is the sign up thread for a game of Secret Hitler I'm organising. It is higher priority as a responsibility than this game as 8 other players were relying on me.

Note I don't post on tha thread it all week until yesterday, much like I didn't post on this thread much until yesterday:

https://discordapp.com/channels/489183631693053952/489198819205054464

P*ookaLast Wednesday at 19:29
SUPPLEMENTSCENE DED

I shouldn't really have to provide proof of out of game activity but it's clearly there.
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trentonlf: I find it interesting with Scene that once I started pointing out that he was not invested and his posts up to that point had been very blasé that he became a lot more active and started giving analysis. He used the excuse that he needed the day to progress before he could give any real analysis, and that excuse stinks IMO. My guess is he was trying to lay low at the start of the game and realized it was causing him to look bad. I could be wrong, but he feels off this game. I also had to laugh when he said “It’s been awhile since I played mafia, it takes 7 to lynch right?” Maybe he doesn’t know how to do math anymore to figure out what a majority vote is? Looks like to me that he’s trying to appear “unsure” of things to try and garner some sympathy.

No, I actually agree with you and Dedo about Fran. I just wish we could get more info from their lynch if they are not scum because it’s an easy wagon to be on without looking bad.
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supplementscene: Below is the sign up thread for a game of Secret Hitler I'm organising. It is higher priority as a responsibility than this game as 8 other players were relying on me.

Note I don't post on tha thread it all week until yesterday, much like I didn't post on this thread much until yesterday:

https://discordapp.com/channels/489183631693053952/489198819205054464

P*ookaLast Wednesday at 19:29
SUPPLEMENTSCENE DED

I shouldn't really have to provide proof of out of game activity but it's clearly there.
LOL. So you’re hosting a game elsewhere, my heart hurts for you. I work Monday through Friday 8-5, I spend as much free time as I possibly can to support my daughter while she’s going through cancer, I don’t have a ton of free time to analyze and post. Shall we continue the sob stories outside of this game or just focus on this game and move on. I think we should focus on this game and move on, if you can’t do that I suggest you find a replacement because I could care less about some other game you are running.
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supplementscene: Below is the sign up thread for a game of Secret Hitler I'm organising. It is higher priority as a responsibility than this game as 8 other players were relying on me.

Note I don't post on tha thread it all week until yesterday, much like I didn't post on this thread much until yesterday:

https://discordapp.com/channels/489183631693053952/489198819205054464

P*ookaLast Wednesday at 19:29
SUPPLEMENTSCENE DED

I shouldn't really have to provide proof of out of game activity but it's clearly there.
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trentonlf: LOL. So you’re hosting a game elsewhere, my heart hurts for you. I work Monday through Friday 8-5, I spend as much free time as I possibly can to support my daughter while she’s going through cancer, I don’t have a ton of free time to analyze and post. Shall we continue the sob stories outside of this game or just focus on this game and move on. I think we should focus on this game and move on, if you can’t do that I suggest you find a replacement because I *could care less about some other game you are running.
*couldn't
@Trent, I'm so sorry to hear about your daughter. I hope things go in the best way possible for her and your whole family. Let me know if you ever want to talk about it (or just chat like we used to do when we had more time on our hands). All the best, my friend!
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trentonlf: LOL. So you’re hosting a game elsewhere, my heart hurts for you. I work Monday through Friday 8-5, I spend as much free time as I possibly can to support my daughter while she’s going through cancer, I don’t have a ton of free time to analyze and post. Shall we continue the sob stories outside of this game or just focus on this game and move on. I think we should focus on this game and move on, if you can’t do that I suggest you find a replacement because I *could care less about some other game you are running.
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supplementscene: *couldn't
Really, you want to correct my grammar now? You can piss off because that’s being a petty rude ass. I so wish I had the ability to kill you in this game because I sure as hell would. Don’t talk to me anymore in or out of this game.
Sorry, got interrupted and called away.


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supplementscene: TLDR I'm happy to lynch: Trent, HSL Pooka, SPF. And I'm willing to lynch: ZFR, Dedoporno, Blotunga. [...]
I've gone over your posts up to this one twice now. Still don't see why you'd be happy to lynch PookaMustard.


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supplementscene: [...] have preferred to play secrethitler.io in my leisure time. [...]
I must say that I expected, or at least hoped, for more than this. While I can understand that one can't be in mafia_state_of_mind all the time, I'm rather disappointed to see this as part of the reason for your absence. At the very least, you could have popped in to say you're not in the right state of mind.


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supplementscene: [...] So @HypersomniacLive and ZFR have both accussed me of 'buddying' upto none other than Blotunga. Well this is suprising. Because I actually voted for Blotunga in the form of a shot because I thought Blotunga's analysis of either ZFR or Lift was insincere (I forget which). Where is the buddying HSL and ZFR? Please highlight it. [...]
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supplementscene: [...] I await Hypers explanation to my 'buddying'. I'd move him to 'would lynch' now. 1 tactic Mafia will use is labelling players as a smear to form an excuse to lynch. I think he did that with his 'buddying' accusation but he could of meant something else so I await his response. [...]
Putting aside the fact that I never made a concrete accusation (you only have to (re?)read my posts), there's something about your early exchanges with blotunga (starting from post #67) that made me wonder if there isn't some sort of buddying up going on. Like neither of you were seriously squinting at the other one? They read to me sort of bantering, those "vote" exchanges between the two of you, along with the whole referencing of OMGUS-ing from past games included, i.e. they never even counted as votes in my eyes, let alone as serious ones.

And frankly, even now that you defend yours as a serious vote, I'm still wondering about those early exchanges.


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supplementscene: [...] What do you think of Hypers sensitivity to the voting commands? Is writing Shoot Player X instead of Vote Player X really the big deal he makes it out to be?
It's not some personal oversensitivity on my part, votes need to be clear and not open to interpretation and/or retroactive enforcement for all the reasons others have already stated. That you don't think this is a serious matter, and have to ask, raises my eyebrow.


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supplementscene: [...] @joesapphire hopefully you can get the night phase quickly coordinated so we get back to playing ASAP
[emphasis added]

Heh.


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supplementscene: Below is the sign up thread for a game of Secret Hitler I'm organising. It is higher priority as a responsibility than this game as 8 other players were relying on me. [...]
[emphasis added]

Dude, is this for real? After how your play has been received this far, you're telling us that another game - let me repeat that, a game - is of higher priority to you than the commitment you made when you signed up for this one?

Seriously? Are you trying to compete with Fran67 for the most careless player place?

If you've lost your interest in this game, can't handle all your commitments or whatever else and want out, ask for a replacement, don't screw over our game.



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trentonlf: I find it interesting with Scene that once I started pointing out that he was not invested and his posts up to that point had been very blasé that he became a lot more active and started giving analysis. He used the excuse that he needed the day to progress before he could give any real analysis, and that excuse stinks IMO. My guess is he was trying to lay low at the start of the game and realized it was causing him to look bad. I could be wrong, but he feels off this game. I also had to laugh when he said “It’s been awhile since I played mafia, it takes 7 to lynch right?” Maybe he doesn’t know how to do math anymore to figure out what a majority vote is? Looks like to me that he’s trying to appear “unsure” of things to try and garner some sympathy. [...]
I was going to say that it is indeed interesting, yet that it doesn't answer my question of what you think of the fact that he doesn't seem to be concerned (tone in his latest posts still reads blasé), but after refreshing and reading his post #257, I may have gotten my answer.
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dedoporno: @Trent, I'm so sorry to hear about your daughter. I hope things go in the best way possible for her and your whole family. Let me know if you ever want to talk about it (or just chat like we used to do when we had more time on our hands). All the best, my friend!
Thank you, I appreciate that.


I apologize to everyone for my reaction to Scene, even if it’s warranted IMO. Today is the 25 year anniversary of my father passing away and that on top of my daughter having to extend her treatments and I’m on edge. I know it’s a poor excuse, and it will not happen again.


That being said, Scene I still have no interest in talking with you outside of this game or anything that’s not game related in the game.
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HypersomniacLive: And speaking of health issues affecting people's participation, I can't help but get back to SirPrimalform. Again, I sympathise with his condition, but I wonder if there isn't more to him.

In post #192 he said [emphasis added]:
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SirPrimalform: [...] I hope we can get a deadline extension so that they (and I) can get up to speed.
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HypersomniacLive: Then in post #200 [emphasis added]:
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SirPrimalform: [...] As in, "today's posts seem to be mostly about voting mechanics". I'm sorry, I haven't yet gone back and read a lot of what I missed.
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HypersomniacLive: That was two days ago according to the forum timestamps, yet in post #215, more than a day later (again according to timestamps at the moment of this writing) [emphasis added]:
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SirPrimalform: Doesn't seem like anything spectacular or game changing has happened since last night's post.[...]
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HypersomniacLive: Followed by post #236 made a few hours earlier today:
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SirPrimalform: Will hammer Fran('s mask off) to avoid no-unmasking, but only as a last resort as I don't feel especially qualified to make any real judgements right now. [...]
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HypersomniacLive: I get that he wasn't doing so hot for the past week, but looking at this series of posts, it seems a tad too convenient that, besides Fran67 and Korotan (who seems to have gravely misunderstood the nature of the game), he's ending D1 with no record of any sort of meaningful comment, scum-hunting and/or (even tentative) suspect(s) of any sort. Because he's not caught up with the thread in spite multiple references of intention to do so. The only thing we have is a watered down FoS at PookaMustard due to the disclaimer that even that vote would be to avoid No-Lynch.

Going to get some lunch to take my meds, then get to supplementscene.
I was a tad optimistic in those earlier posts in that I was hoping/assuming that I didn't have several more days of headache (migraine?) ahead of me. I ended up skimming the posts since my last post but couldn't face reading the several days worth of posts I'd missed earlier. While my normal MO is lurky, it's lurking in the sense that I read but often don't post. In this instance I'm sorry but I just haven't been able to keep up with the thread. I'll have to read during the night.

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dedoporno: Are you in some sort of a hurry?
Quite the opposite, Joe stole 25 minutes from us if that post is to be believed!
With it being more than 4 hours since Joe's 4 hours post and only 15 minutes away from being 10 hours after his 10 hours post, I'm going to call it.

Vote Fran67
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HypersomniacLive: Sorry, got interrupted and called away.

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supplementscene: TLDR I'm happy to lynch: Trent, HSL Pooka, SPF. And I'm willing to lynch: ZFR, Dedoporno, Blotunga. [...]
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HypersomniacLive: I've gone over your posts up to this one twice now. Still don't see why you'd be happy to lynch PookaMustard.

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supplementscene: [...] have preferred to play secrethitler.io in my leisure time. [...]
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HypersomniacLive: I must say that I expected, or at least hoped, for more than this. While I can understand that one can't be in mafia_state_of_mind all the time, I'm rather disappointed to see this as part of the reason for your absence. At the very least, you could have popped in to say you're not in the right state of mind.

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supplementscene: [...] I await Hypers explanation to my 'buddying'. I'd move him to 'would lynch' now. 1 tactic Mafia will use is labelling players as a smear to form an excuse to lynch. I think he did that with his 'buddying' accusation but he could of meant something else so I await his response. [...]
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HypersomniacLive: Putting aside the fact that I never made a concrete accusation (you only have to (re?)read my posts), there's something about your early exchanges with blotunga (starting from post #67) that made me wonder if there isn't some sort of buddying up going on. Like neither of you were seriously squinting at the other one? They read to me sort of bantering, those "vote" exchanges between the two of you, along with the whole referencing of OMGUS-ing from past games included, i.e. they never even counted as votes in my eyes, let alone as serious ones.

And frankly, even now that you defend yours as a serious vote, I'm still wondering about those early exchanges.

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supplementscene: [...] What do you think of Hypers sensitivity to the voting commands? Is writing Shoot Player X instead of Vote Player X really the big deal he makes it out to be?
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HypersomniacLive: It's not some personal oversensitivity on my part, votes need to be clear and not open to interpretation and/or retroactive enforcement for all the reasons others have already stated. That you don't think this is a serious matter, and have to ask, raises my eyebrow.

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supplementscene: [...] @joesapphire hopefully you can get the night phase quickly coordinated so we get back to playing ASAP
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HypersomniacLive: [emphasis added]

Heh.

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supplementscene: Below is the sign up thread for a game of Secret Hitler I'm organising. It is higher priority as a responsibility than this game as 8 other players were relying on me. [...]
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HypersomniacLive: [emphasis added]

Dude, is this for real? After how your play has been received this far, you're telling us that another game - let me repeat that, a game - is of higher priority to you than the commitment you made when you signed up for this one?

Seriously? Are you trying to compete with Fran67 for the most careless player place?

If you've lost your interest in this game, can't handle all your commitments or whatever else and want out, ask for a replacement, don't screw over our game.

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trentonlf: I find it interesting with Scene that once I started pointing out that he was not invested and his posts up to that point had been very blasé that he became a lot more active and started giving analysis. He used the excuse that he needed the day to progress before he could give any real analysis, and that excuse stinks IMO. My guess is he was trying to lay low at the start of the game and realized it was causing him to look bad. I could be wrong, but he feels off this game. I also had to laugh when he said “It’s been awhile since I played mafia, it takes 7 to lynch right?” Maybe he doesn’t know how to do math anymore to figure out what a majority vote is? Looks like to me that he’s trying to appear “unsure” of things to try and garner some sympathy. [...]
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HypersomniacLive: I was going to say that it is indeed interesting, yet that it doesn't answer my question of what you think of the fact that he doesn't seem to be concerned (tone in his latest posts still reads blasé), but after refreshing and reading his post #257, I may have gotten my answer.
Fran67 and I are so the same thing.

I've already explaned why I'd consider Pooka. Have you not 'invested time' to read the thread? There's only 1 type of player who tries to misrepresent other players posts by cherrypicking quotes.

And yes me voting for Blotunga, reminding Joe about my vote and having him near to the top of my lynch list is buddying in this alternate universe.

You don't seem at all scummy here HSL, not at all.
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supplementscene: *couldn't
Dude, that's piss poor form to the point of being callous.

You can't show some respect to someone with immensely serious issues to deal with in the physical world, yet expect understanding and sympathy for neglecting your responsibilities as host of another online game?


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supplementscene: [...] I've already explaned why I'd consider Pooka. Have you not 'invested time' to read the thread? There's only 1 type of player who tries to misrepresent other players posts by cherrypicking quotes. [...]
I'm really po'd at you right now, but let's give it a try - please point me to where up to your post #212 you explained why PookaMustard is on the table for you.


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supplementscene: [...] And yes me voting for Blotunga, reminding Joe about my vote and having him near to the top of my lynch list is buddying in this alternate universe. [...]
You asked for my explanation, I gave it to you. You don't like it. /shrug

I've stated multiple times already my view on your vote being counted retroactively, so won't go into that again.

As for blotunga being near the top of your lynch list - you've listed four people in your "I'm happy to lynch" list, and another three in your "and I'm willing to lynch" one. That's like half the player base, and he's listed last.
You and I have a very different definition of what "near the top" constitutes.
That's...interesting. What have I walked into?

I was going to say that, he brought up the comment with his commitment to the other game as a poorly communicated way of saying "look, that game has a higher priority and even then I haven't been tending to it, so my inactivity is something out of my control" but then...the next thing he does is go grammar nazi on trent and that was his entire response to him. That's...

What.

It's weird. Seeing scene a perfect player in the Secret Hitler game, and then all of this happens.

So...it seems the deadline hasn't come up yet. Assuming we remain a majority on lynching Fran, I am anxious to see what the end result will be.
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PookaMustard: So...it seems the deadline hasn't come up yet. Assuming we remain a majority on lynching Fran, I am anxious to see what the end result will be.
I could be wrong, but I thought I hammered.
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PookaMustard: So...it seems the deadline hasn't come up yet. Assuming we remain a majority on lynching Fran, I am anxious to see what the end result will be.
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SirPrimalform: I could be wrong, but I thought I hammered.
You did. Just to make sure

Vote Fran67