Posted March 10, 2017
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Djaron
Bastard Jester
Registered: Oct 2008
From France
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Senteria
GOG Café Admin
Registered: May 2011
From Netherlands
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fables22
Bacon of light
GOG.com Team
Registered: Oct 2016
From Poland
Posted March 10, 2017
We'll see. There's been talks about recruiting moderators and there's also been some suggestions, but I don't think we'll be doing it any time soon. All GOG staff have the same moderating capabilities, so more than likely I'll ask a few of my colleagues to use them, if it seems necessary as per the forum rules.
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_ChaosFox_
Zero fox given.
Registered: Nov 2008
From Germany
Posted March 10, 2017
I'm personally fairly satisfied with the new rules - now we just need to see whether there's the will to enforce them.
I do have a few questions that I'll post publicly here for everyone's benefit (my apologies if this violates the "public criticism of mods" provision, although I sure that's more related to individual controversial cases as opposed to general enforcement in order to prevent protracted arguments about whether a closure was warranted or not):
* Following on from WBGhiro's post - how will abuse of the rep system be monitored and punished? Will it be based on more longstanding abuse or isolated incidents? WBGhiro is being rather facetious but the point is a valid one - what happens if someone accidentally clicks on the "report as spam" button? I know it's happened to me at least once. Do the mods have access to a user's down/upvoting history?
* "Posting something that is knowingly false." I'd trust the mods to enforce this rule appropriately but it is rather general. Someone may post something that is "knowingly false" as a joke and the falsehood may be apparent from the context or absurdity. Think "The Onion" or "The Postillion". Wouldn't it be appropriate to add that knowingly false claims should not be posted in bad faith or out of malice?
* Can I still say "fuck", as long as I'm not telling anyone maliciously to "fuck off"?
I do have a few questions that I'll post publicly here for everyone's benefit (my apologies if this violates the "public criticism of mods" provision, although I sure that's more related to individual controversial cases as opposed to general enforcement in order to prevent protracted arguments about whether a closure was warranted or not):
* Following on from WBGhiro's post - how will abuse of the rep system be monitored and punished? Will it be based on more longstanding abuse or isolated incidents? WBGhiro is being rather facetious but the point is a valid one - what happens if someone accidentally clicks on the "report as spam" button? I know it's happened to me at least once. Do the mods have access to a user's down/upvoting history?
* "Posting something that is knowingly false." I'd trust the mods to enforce this rule appropriately but it is rather general. Someone may post something that is "knowingly false" as a joke and the falsehood may be apparent from the context or absurdity. Think "The Onion" or "The Postillion". Wouldn't it be appropriate to add that knowingly false claims should not be posted in bad faith or out of malice?
* Can I still say "fuck", as long as I'm not telling anyone maliciously to "fuck off"?
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thomq
New User
Registered: Jan 2014
From United States
Posted March 10, 2017
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GOG.com employees […] volunteer their time to assist you, so you should keep in mind that they are usually posting outside of their everyday responsibilities, and therefore may not always be available.
So it seems likely to me whoever helps (if anyone else at all) will be doing so in their spare time, which sounds like either after leaving work or before starting work, assuming there is any time to spare.Post edited March 10, 2017 by thomq
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JunglePredator
JunglePredator
Registered: Sep 2009
From Canada
Posted March 10, 2017
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_ChaosFox_
Zero fox given.
Registered: Nov 2008
From Germany
Posted March 10, 2017
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For my part, I won't be doing it ever again.
Post edited March 10, 2017 by jamyskis
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foxworks
5* General of Cheese™
Registered: Oct 2010
From United States
Posted March 10, 2017
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JunglePredator
JunglePredator
Registered: Sep 2009
From Canada
Posted March 10, 2017
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Hmm.
I wonder if this is starting to be off topic.
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foxworks
5* General of Cheese™
Registered: Oct 2010
From United States
Posted March 10, 2017
I think we're fine. However, if we decided to discuss your Furby collection and how much you wanted Furbacca. Well then ;-p
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JunglePredator
JunglePredator
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From Canada
Posted March 10, 2017
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Hmm.
I wonder if this is starting to be off topic.
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I was attempting to show that the rules can be interpreted & that one should proceed on the basis of the most common language.
And since that's English I'd say use UK standards.
"Appropriate" takes on the meaning of what the majority thinks is correct.
Includes little swearing, avoid slang since it's not universal & try to be as clear as possible.
(IE talk to each person like you're talking to your manager at work, not to your pal at the pub or a person on the subway.)
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thomq
New User
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From United States
Posted March 10, 2017
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And since that's English I'd say use UK standards.
"Appropriate" takes on the meaning of what the majority thinks is correct.
Includes little swearing, avoid slang since it's not universal & try to be as clear as possible.
(IE talk to each person like you're talking to your manager at work, not to your pal at the pub or a person on the subway.)
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InkPanther
Registered: Sep 2008
From Poland
Posted March 10, 2017
Hi, my name is Mateusz, do I get banned for a week? ;) This part of the rule is a little bit silly to be honest, it should be up to me if I want to tell everybody here and on the entire internet my name or email.
It looked like up until now nobody at GOG was able to track and eradicate downrepping/reporting as spam problems and you suddenly intend to enforce the rule forbidding it? I'm sorry but what exactly changed?
I have some reservations regarding rules about cheats and hacks, posting knowingly false things, bumping and off-topic, and also spoilers. But it shouldn't be a problem unless moderation from now on is going to the other extreme end of the spectrum. (It isn't, right?)
It looked like up until now nobody at GOG was able to track and eradicate downrepping/reporting as spam problems and you suddenly intend to enforce the rule forbidding it? I'm sorry but what exactly changed?
I have some reservations regarding rules about cheats and hacks, posting knowingly false things, bumping and off-topic, and also spoilers. But it shouldn't be a problem unless moderation from now on is going to the other extreme end of the spectrum. (It isn't, right?)
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DaCostaBR
Dayman: Fighter of the Nightman
Registered: Sep 2012
From Brazil
Posted March 10, 2017
I made this question in the previous thread and it went completely ignored: how will you deal with the alt-account problems?
Will new accounts lack certain privileges (like downvoting) until some criteria are met? Are bans either IP-based or have something else about them to prevent the person from posting?
Because as it is, this rule
The same goes for all the other rules, in fact, if your only form of moderation is bans that can be circumvented with an alt-account that takes less than a minute to create.
Will new accounts lack certain privileges (like downvoting) until some criteria are met? Are bans either IP-based or have something else about them to prevent the person from posting?
Because as it is, this rule
WE DON’T TOLERATE:[...] Creating multiple accounts.
is very cute, but it's completely meaningless if you can't enforce it. The same goes for all the other rules, in fact, if your only form of moderation is bans that can be circumvented with an alt-account that takes less than a minute to create.
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liquidsnakehpks
sons of liberty
Registered: Dec 2009
From India
Posted March 10, 2017
Looks like standard rules like any other forum i have been , the drm free crowd will be hard to tame here , good luck fables