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Becoming a slightly different beast.

<span class="bold">Armello</span>, the digital tabletop/role-playing/strategy game, has now been updated and renamed to Armello - DRM Free Edition. It includes the latest fixes and updates, plus all these lovely animals who will eagerly stab each other with pointy things in order to become rulers of the land. Oh, and it's 25% off for six days!

This edition is a complete strategic experience and will keep receiving updates that are unrelated to DLCs or online features.

Here's what League of Geeks have to say about it (full version <span class="bold">here</span>):

"We want to ensure that whatever platforms Armello is on, we're providing the best experience that we possibly can. As Armello moves more and more into online services (like Steam inventory and more multiplayer features) and as we begin to roll out our plans for DLC, we've been working closely with GOG on an edition of Armello specific to GOG. [..]
We've had fantastic meetings with GOG about the future of Armello on the platform and although there's no way for us to provide DLC for DRM-Free users or to attempt to retain parity with the Steam version of Armello, Armello DRM-Free Edition will see features that best suit a DRM Free experience. [...]."

Get ready to join this new era of colorful animosity with <span class="bold">Armello DRM-Free Edition</span>, exclusively on GOG.com.
The 25% discount will last until September 5, 9:59 PM UTC.


https://www.youtube.com/embed/o4e5s28x7Ps
Post edited August 31, 2016 by maladr0Id
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I still don't get why DLC with four extra characters and four extra rings can't be available on GoG. The DLC doesn't add anything new to online play. I can't even see how it would need to interact with Steam inventory. The excuse for not providing it doesn't make a lick of sense.
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tremere110: I still don't get why DLC with four extra characters and four extra rings can't be available on GoG. The DLC doesn't add anything new to online play. I can't even see how it would need to interact with Steam inventory. The excuse for not providing it doesn't make a lick of sense.
Exactly. Just being lazy is a bad excuse for a dev.
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I translated this as a notice to owners of Armello that the game will be changing in their libraries, and that "League of Geeks" will offer limited support for the GOG edition.

Vote up for your list, and Armello is removed from my wishlist.

I am glad that GOG was classy enough to remain diplomatic in the notice. The positive spin is almost too much, but in order to cultivate future relationships with new developers, I understand the decision to show that GOG won't publicly berate its partners.

I hate to sound petty, but I was planning to buy a few copies during a saleto gift to those I'd play with (like I did with the Witcher Adventure Game!). There are always other games.
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Woolytoes: BTW: Less features should end in a lower price, shouldn't it?
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CharlesGrey: Exactly! I think it's acceptable to sell "inferior versions" of games, but the price should be adjusted accordingly, and the store ( GOG, in this case ) needs to inform their customers about any missing features prior to purchase.

As far as I know, the game was sold here at the same price as on Steam, and without any warnings that GOG owners of the game might miss out on potential future updates. Which is, quite frankly, bullshit.
I actually disagree. DRM Free is an extra feature worth paying extra for, and I have. Not that I EVER compare to Steam, because I don't care what's going on at Steam. I'm not a customer of theirs, or a member of their community, and I get damn tired of every thread at GOG being infected by discussions of what's going on over there.

In short, screw Steam. Stuff is often cheaper on Steam, because they have different sales. The price over there is about as relevant to the price on GOG as the price of rice in China. (Or pussy in Taipei, as the original saying goes.)
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cstuckma: I translated this as a notice to owners of Armello that the game will be changing in their libraries, and that "League of Geeks" will offer limited support for the GOG edition.

Vote up for your list, and Armello is removed from my wishlist.

I am glad that GOG was classy enough to remain diplomatic in the notice. The positive spin is almost too much, but in order to cultivate future relationships with new developers, I understand the decision to show that GOG won't publicly berate its partners.

I hate to sound petty, but I was planning to buy a few copies during a saleto gift to those I'd play with (like I did with the Witcher Adventure Game!). There are always other games.
I sent a ticket for refund .
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BKGaming: My BS meter is at full capacity today... any interest one would have in this game has just been killed right here. This is going to set a bad precedent where we get even more gimped versions. Game shouldn't even been sold here.
Couldn't agree more.

Renaming it "DRM Free edition" is the most cynical, contemptible thing they could have done in the face of locking us out of DLC for the insulting, utter bullshit reasons they've given.

Even though this never really looked like my genre, I've been considering getting it simply because of how appealing the art direction is to me. Now all the dev is getting from me is a big fat middle finger.
Post edited August 30, 2016 by ReynardFox
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tremere110: I still don't get why DLC with four extra characters and four extra rings can't be available on GoG. The DLC doesn't add anything new to online play. I can't even see how it would need to interact with Steam inventory. The excuse for not providing it doesn't make a lick of sense.
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Wurzelkraft: Exactly. Just being lazy is a bad excuse for a dev.
Agreed. This line "although there's no way for us to provide DLC for DRM-Free users". Is a complete, flat out, baldfaced lie. It's nothing but a lie. There IS a way for them to provide DLC for DRM-Free users. Just do it.

Please don't lie to us. It makes people angry.

I also like that the closing words of the post are "join the colorful animosity". That's some irony.
Post edited August 30, 2016 by barleyguy
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mqstout: Sad they have plans to lock away some of the features.

And "there's no way for us to provide DLC for DRM-Free users or to attempt to retain parity with the Steam version of Armello" is just bollocks.
The worst is that they went through the hassle to write a sugary excuse for "sending a stranger in the alps" for all this.

I officially hate them. XP
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Pheace: At least the game is here I guess, but yeah, in a limited capacity it seems. There's only one thing to do. Up next, GOG Inventory and more multiplayer support :)
If Steam versions have the same pricing and more features than their drm free counterparts we should just move back to Steam...

Apparently GOG isn't willing to fight for better DRM Free gaming... why should we?
Post edited August 30, 2016 by Zoidberg
Not that I'm happy about this, but to be fair other games have done exactly the same thing in the past. Release a game on GOG but only provide updates to Steam. Armello's sin here is in telling us first that we're going to be ignored...
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migizi: Vote it up to the top to avoid this in the future.

https://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/dont_release_gimpedinferior_versions_of_games
Too vague, I can't vote for that.

For instance, I am fine if the GOG version doesn't have support for achievements or trading cards or in many cases even multiplayer, I am fine having only the single-player part of the game, as long as it is the true meat of the game. It would be shame if all such games were removed from GOG.

I am unsure what to think of Armello, as I am not fully sure what the missing DLC is about (and why it can't be released DRM-free). If it is really gaming content that requires online connection and authentication to play... then I would have been pissed off even if I had bought the Steam version, thinking its single-player part is DRM-free.
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towerbooks3192: I have to admit I feel kinda cheated especially I paid full price for the game but the Steam version can purchase the cool DLCs. Can we at least get a free steam code for the game should we ever decide to purchase the DLC? I really do wanna purchase the DLC but I don't want to repurchase a game I already owned.

Or can we get a refund so we can repurchase the full game over at steam?
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Reglisse: Agree.
A Steam coupon for the base game would be nice :)
I would buy the DLC on Steam...but no way i pay again for the base game.
So no money for you Dev!
Dude... you already gave them your money...
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Zoidberg: If Steam versions have the same pricing and more features than their drm free counterparts we should just move back to Steam...
There's just one problem: I don't want the DRM'ed version, if that is what the Steam version is offering. So in that case "moving back to Steam" is not an option for me, at least for this particular game.

Is the DLC using the "Steam inventory" feature, and that is why the publisher feels it can't be released DRM-free on e.g. GOG.com? If that is the case, then people should oppose Steam inventory, as it clearly is geared to create content that is exclusive to one store only, Steam.

After all, wasn't it said in the Sierra Activision thread that exclusive content and titles is baaaaaad (hence it is good that the old Sierra classics are released also on Steam)?
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timppu: ...I am unsure what to think of Armello, as I am not fully sure what the missing DLC is about....
The most important DLC in the game is going to be the playable characters. The way it works is that when the game was in development, there were 4 heroes, with their own distribution of stats, and a passive ability of some sort that influences their play-style. They've since added more characters, and some of them are only available through purchase, as seen in this picture here:

http://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/398913/extras/SplashScreen.png?t=1472541686

The character's are part of what bring play-style variety to the game. So, for example, you have one girl who is "The Revolutionary", and she gains a follower card every time she liberates a terrorized city. Then you've got a vengeful character hooded in a grim reaper cloak that gains a bonus to his attack dice for each of the king's guard that have fallen during the course of a session. It's all geared towards different play-styles, and you can clearly see on the character selection-screen within the game that slots have purposely been left open in the middle, with room for more playable heroes.

So, even if someone was going to just take the GoG version's lack of multiplayer for what it is and vow just to play it single player only, then you're going to at least want some variety to keep the game interesting in the face of the dead-silent AI players. So, essentially, we're being told that variety isn't coming to this version any time soon, if at all, and we'll have to wait until 2017 to see if they ever plan to bring this version up to par with the others.
Post edited August 30, 2016 by Irenicus73
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Reglisse: Agree.
A Steam coupon for the base game would be nice :)
I would buy the DLC on Steam...but no way i pay again for the base game.
So no money for you Dev!
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Zoidberg: Dude... you already gave them your money...
Well,NO MORE MONEY FOR THEM!
Sounds right?

I don't care about multiplayer or bonus "Steam inventory" exclusive but...but no DLC...the Shapeshifter Bear is cool...
Post edited August 30, 2016 by Reglisse
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CharlesGrey: Exactly! I think it's acceptable to sell "inferior versions" of games, but the price should be adjusted accordingly, and the store ( GOG, in this case ) needs to inform their customers about any missing features prior to purchase.

As far as I know, the game was sold here at the same price as on Steam, and without any warnings that GOG owners of the game might miss out on potential future updates. Which is, quite frankly, bullshit.
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barleyguy: I actually disagree. DRM Free is an extra feature worth paying extra for, and I have. Not that I EVER compare to Steam, because I don't care what's going on at Steam. I'm not a customer of theirs, or a member of their community, and I get damn tired of every thread at GOG being infected by discussions of what's going on over there.

In short, screw Steam. Stuff is often cheaper on Steam, because they have different sales. The price over there is about as relevant to the price on GOG as the price of rice in China. (Or pussy in Taipei, as the original saying goes.)
But why should you pay more for the same product? That is a very dangerous behaviour that I cannot get behind.
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zlep: Not that I'm happy about this, but to be fair other games have done exactly the same thing in the past. Release a game on GOG but only provide updates to Steam. Armello's sin here is in telling us first that we're going to be ignored...
Well that is a good thing, transparency. Maybe next time let's not pitifully try to mask it as positive.

They planned badly and had to make the decision to cancel DLC plan for GOG version, end of story. They look like morons and only half recognize it. That's something, yes, but that's not the best, far from it.
Post edited August 30, 2016 by Zoidberg