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I left mprime tortue test running overnight, with 16 threads. CPU fans (under bios control) are still quiet, as I would expect given that the cooling capacity I have is overkill for a stock clock Ryzen.

I don't know what my RAM settings are now though. It is possible they were changed automatically after the previous freeze...
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Phasmid: Taichi BIOS does have a DRAM scrub time BIOS option apparently (per Youtube review). It also says ECC is fully supported on the ASRock website. I cannot prove it absolutely since I don't own any of the relevant components, nor run Linux. If you're really worried about it I'd suggest emailing ASRock themselves for confirmation, they'd certainly be able to give a more comprehensive answer than I.
Very very very nice! Thank you!! If it lists in UEFI/BIOS then its 100% supported by Linux.
This is great news!!
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clarry: I wish I could check CPU temps and RAM timings under Linux somehow.. *sigh*
psensor
xsensors
lshw -C memory
i-nex

For timings, there is decode-dimms, however it does not always detect the banks.
There is also "dmidecode --type memory", but it shows only bank speeds, not timings.
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clarry: I wish I could check CPU temps and RAM timings under Linux somehow.. *sigh*
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Lin545: psensor
xsensors
lshw -C memory
i-nex
Yeah, unfortunately even 9001 front ends to the same kernel interfaces do not help when the kernel does not expose the sensors.

# sensors
amdgpu-pci-2900
Adapter: PCI adapter
fan1: 1263 RPM
temp1: +31.0°C (crit = +0.0°C, hyst = +0.0°C)

asus-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
cpu_fan: 0 RPM
That's all (and yes I poked around /sys/ quite a bit).

For timings, there is decode-dimms, however it does not always detect the banks.
Yeah, already tried that. It can detect the banks but does't decode them:

Decoding EEPROM: /sys/bus/i2c/drivers/eeprom/13-0053
Guessing DIMM is in bank 4

---=== SPD EEPROM Information ===---
EEPROM CRC of bytes 0-125 OK (0x038D)
# of bytes written to SDRAM EEPROM 256
Total number of bytes in EEPROM 512
Fundamental Memory type Unknown (0x0c)

---=== Manufacturing Information ===---
Manufacturer Synertek
Custom Manufacturer Data 36 16 36 00 00 2B 0C ("6?6??+?")
Manufacturing Location Code 0x2B
Part Number Undefined
I can tell the 0x0c is DDR4 but I have no idea if I should be able to decode currently active timings from custom manufacturer data (I don't think so; it looks as though it's just a static field)

There is also "dmidecode --type memory", but it shows only bank speeds, not timings.
Indeed. I'm not sure I fully trust the info provided via this tool, I recall UEFI showing me rather different voltages when I last looked.
Post edited March 22, 2017 by clarry
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Lin545: psensor
xsensors
lshw -C memory
i-nex
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clarry: Yeah, unfortunately even 9001 front ends to the same kernel interfaces do not help when the kernel does not expose the sensors.

# sensors
amdgpu-pci-2900
Adapter: PCI adapter
fan1: 1263 RPM
temp1: +31.0°C (crit = +0.0°C, hyst = +0.0°C)

asus-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
cpu_fan: 0 RPM
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clarry: That's all (and yes I poked around /sys/ quite a bit).
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amdgpu is only video card. Means your motherboard is still unsupported
Wait for sensor support get into kernel. Try to use lastest mainline images.
so far for a 1800x cpu I am having some fun times outside of games, I really don't care that it suffers a 5% fps drop or something like that compare to Intel CPU's for gaming but when it comes to everything else it wrecks intel at it.

the annoying thing was you need a really good cooler to get good temps. so I use a noctua ndh15 on it for stable temps.
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UnrealQuakie: so far for a 1800x cpu I am having some fun times outside of games, I really don't care that it suffers a 5% fps drop or something like that compare to Intel CPU's for gaming but when it comes to everything else it wrecks intel at it.

the annoying thing was you need a really good cooler to get good temps. so I use a noctua ndh15 on it for stable temps.
Are noctua good? I keep hearing them getting mentioned, but never had one.
I've got the Hyper EVO-212 & that thing, whilst a tad audible & large, is amazing at cooling.
I had to return my R7 1700X, Gigabyte Gaming 3 and Corsair DDR4 3200 RAM yesterday. On Monday the system refused to start. Mainboard status LED showed error at the initialization of the RAM. BIOS reset had no chance, redundant secondary BIOS failed as well. Seems the F6b BIOS caused a defect for something, although it worked for 3 days without problems. They also removed it from download as of now.

So here I am again, running my trusty old Phenom2 and the old Radeon HD5870 on Linux Mint because I did not want to do the hassle with the new PC, replacing the broken parts and installing Windows all over again.


Will have to wait what the shop says concerning replacement and what is really broken (RAM, CPU or board). I hope it is just the RAM, but I guess it's the board with the BIOS. Meanwhile I will try out Linux a bit which I always wanted to install on this old spare PC anyway.
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UnrealQuakie: the annoying thing was you need a really good cooler to get good temps. so I use a noctua ndh15 on it for stable temps.
Everything I've read says that cooling only really becomes an issue when you start trying to push 4GHz+ and need to really crank up the core voltage. Apparently the stock cooler that comes with the 1700 isn't bad and even handles some overclocking quite well: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5zyxv0/amd_wraith_spire_true_value_add_or_hot_piece_of/

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fishbaits: Are noctua good? I keep hearing them getting mentioned, but never had one.
I've got the Hyper EVO-212 & that thing, whilst a tad audible & large, is amazing at cooling.
Noctua are supposed to be *very* good. Expensive though, but seems to be a case of "you get what you pay for" - I've got a Noctua NH-U12S for my upcoming build and it definitely looks & feels like it's great quality. I've never used a Noctua cooler before, though.
Post edited March 22, 2017 by adamhm
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UnrealQuakie: so far for a 1800x cpu I am having some fun times outside of games, I really don't care that it suffers a 5% fps drop or something like that compare to Intel CPU's for gaming but when it comes to everything else it wrecks intel at it.

the annoying thing was you need a really good cooler to get good temps. so I use a noctua ndh15 on it for stable temps.
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fishbaits: Are noctua good? I keep hearing them getting mentioned, but never had one.
I've got the Hyper EVO-212 & that thing, whilst a tad audible & large, is amazing at cooling.
I thought about getting the ndh15 as well, but I had a problem with the two fans. From my experience the fans are the only thing that ever breaks at some point sooner or later. Two fans means double the chance that one breaks, so I opted for the Noctua NH-U12S instead.

I cannot really say if the temperature is already being read correctly from the various diagnostic programs. Temps have been reported between 35-65°C in one program and 55-75°C in another. Now I have read about an offset of 20°C for the 1700X/1800X they have done on purpose for better control of the self-overclocking, but I rather tend to trust the higher temperature reading. Anything below 80°C a longer time under stress seems to be OK for me though.

The fan was actually pretty quit the whole time, running at max 1400 rpm (I think this is really the max rpm).
Post edited March 22, 2017 by Quasebarth
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Quasebarth: I thought about getting the ndh15 as well, but I had a problem with the two fans. From my experience the fans are the only thing that ever breaks at some point sooner or later. Two fans means double the chance that one breaks, so I opted for the Noctua NH-U12S instead.
Noctua fans really are the gold standard. And choosing the "inferior" (it's not bad!) cooler because it comes with one less fan isn't terribly logical, unless you want to save the money. The U12 is especially valid consideration for smaller boards though; the D15 is really quite *massive* and you don't have a lot of room to work with even on a full size ATX board. On smaller boards, it might interfere with the GPU for instance.

The 2nd fan on the D15 is completely optional, but it potentially allows you to have a cooler system while running the fans at a lower RPM (less noise); or a cooler system at high RPM if you want maximum cooling for overclocking. It's very versatile. And if the fans ever broke, you can buy a replacement without replacing the entire cooler; these fans are sold separately, they're awesome, and people use them everywhere in quiet builds.

The 6-year warranty on the cooler doesn't hurt either...

I don't have the sensors to tell exactly but I think the fans on my D15 are running at like 600-700 RPM after running mprime torture test with 16 threads (maximum cpu use) for 15 hours. It's one impressive cooler.
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fishbaits: Are noctua good? I keep hearing them getting mentioned, but never had one.
Yes they are good. The fans in particular have been the gold standard for silent builds, for a long time now. The heatsinks are not unsurpassed, in the sense that you can get similar cooling ability for less money. That said, they are *really good.*

Review: http://www.silentpcreview.com/Noctua_NH-D15
Post edited March 22, 2017 by clarry
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fishbaits: Are noctua good? I keep hearing them getting mentioned, but never had one.
I've got the Hyper EVO-212 & that thing, whilst a tad audible & large, is amazing at cooling.
They are top class actually. But expensive . Sure you pay for quality , but also for packaging ( Japanese style, neat, luxurious ) and brand.

To give you an idea the Noctua "12" is the equivalent to an EVO 212. For a Ryzen 1700X or 1800X I'd go for something a bit stronger, admitedly to have a safety margin ( 12 double fan or 14 )

However, one issue with them is that creamy colour used for the fans. One likes... or not. this irrespectively of them fan being top notch. Of course, these fans are replaceable ( for the "15" by any 140mm fan with 120mm holes that is less than 25 mm deep ) , but doing so adds to the price.

To be noted that one can get AM4 kits for the Enermax ETS-T50A-BVT and for the Be Quiet Dark Rock 3 ( or pro 3 if you're into monsters) from the manufacturer's websites.
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clarry: (...) my D15 (...). It's one impressive cooler.
Sure. It's almost as big as a M-ATX Mobo put to the cube. call it The Beast
Post edited March 22, 2017 by Phc7006
Colouring of fans or components never bothers me, as I've no interest in see through panels etc on towers. Oddly enough, my latest gfx card has a bright white "XFX" light on the side which now shines through the fan/vent & shines a 4 foot patch onto the wall.

Bugs the crap out of me! hehe.

Solid panels all the way for me in my next build ;)

The Hyper 212 is good, although not quiet. Although don't hear it when gaming & headset on. Shall have to check out Noctua in future.
Yeah I got all solid panels. Friggin windows look silly to me and all the light pollution is annoying, although if you're OCing and tweaking stuff, it can be useful to always see the diagnostic leds on the board without having to open the case.

My case has a bright blue power led, and man do I hate these. I'll probably replace it with something dimmer and not blue.
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fishbaits: The Hyper 212 is good, although not quiet. Although don't hear it when gaming & headset on. Shall have to check out Noctua in future.
I'm used to the Hyper 212. There is one cooling my second desktop ( Amd FX 6350 ) and it indeed does the job. I replaced the fan by a set of 2 silent, slower, fans. It is still cheaper than a Noctua ;-)

I personally don't care for the color of the fan, nor for the side panel being windowed or not. I care for its air intake, its noise level and the price of the cooling system. And for the size of the cooler as too big isn't practical.

But since I like building rigs, I end up doing it more than for my own usage, as a hobby. And for some, as it seems, this is an issue.