Sorry about my absence, I did something to mess up my back and just sitting here is fairly uncomfortable. I am alive though.

I don't know, there are similarities here. And the multiple kills after 2 days point out that we have more then one killing faction.

nmillar and Rod both have a pattern, a bassist and a solo artist/vocalist combo were both killed in ways that represented their works.

That leaves Vitek and Krypsyn's deaths, which the kill method appears far more random. I'm guessing those two deaths are actually done by the same faction, although I'd kill to know what we're looking at faction wise.

Ah! A confession!

Just a quick note after those pieces of information from stoic and GoJays: looks like people get block notifications even if they don't have a power role.

(So it turns out analysing your own lynch wagon is tricky. xD I'm referring to the previous NFY as NameCop to make this easier.)

So, top of my list right now is TwilightBard, for a couple of things:

First for spin-doctoring during the NFY wagon. In particular I'm thinking of the following:
1017: and 1387: Both of those posts I quoted seem to use ammunition gleaned from skim-reading the thread. The Damuna Issue was discussed an awful lot, but NameCop repeatedly stated she agreed with the criticism of it. As for the second one, NameCop had already stated she wanted to articulate suspicions and had even rebuked Robbeasy for the same spin. And even a cursory re-reading would have revealed that NameCop was the first to vote for GoJays. The errors are a little convenient for my liking.

And I'm afraid my soul is still sore about what happened to its previous body, where TB and The Baron seemed to have ignored #1276... TB even claimed that NameCop hadn't put up much in the way of defence. :<

Vote TwilightBard

OR stoicsentry was lying when he said he was vanilla (in #967). Why would you disregard that possibility, I wonder?

Here's a problem I have with 1276...it's not a defense. It's a summary using post numbers. What you did with post 1017 is more along the lines of what I was looking for when I mean a defense. It makes it frustrating though with 1017 being over a month ago is that I honestly can't tell you where my mind was at, or what I was thinking.

As for 1387...All I can say is yes, I've been scanning posts at that point because no one was willing at that point to bring up anything of real value, and everyone was talking mainly for the sake of having posts then having anything meaningful to say. I was begging for someone to try to make a case or show something other then what I was capable of seeing (I can't see or catch everything), and I was honestly seeing people go 'Well, I'm going with my gut and I don't have a gut feeling strong enough.' I pointed out that I voted Namecop more because of the case there (And I was sadly hoping that someone would be able to deconstruct the damn thing in a useful way) then for my actual gut feeling because at this point, I don't trust my gut feelings anymore in this game. I've been burned way too many times by this.

While I can't say I know for certain on both groups, I do have a question to propose. Why does everyone think that GoJays was left alive? I don't mean this as an attack on GoJays, but I'm very curious as to what everyone thinks of this (I believe that he's town actually), but a living roleblocker is an amazing mistake that someone didn't pick up on...and I don't think it could be from one of our experienced players either. It doesn't make sense to me, and I believe GoJays is telling the truth.

I'm kinda confused there, too. I still insist that I am vanilla, I'm just not sure you all have enough evidence to verify that. I guess if there is a serial killer then it does tell you that I'm not him. Then again even this presumes that GoJays is telling the truth.

Maybe NFY's point is that so many power roles have been revealed that it makes it less likely I have one?

Actually, considering there are two killing factions in the game, I'd expect a lot more power in the town's hands. What we've seen so far is pretty weak: Vengeful is useful only in a very limited number of scenarios (and can be a hindrance in many others), Name Cop can be a great asset in the endgame, but can't do much in the early days, only the Watcher is a relatively strong role. And the Roleblocker, if GoJays is telling the truth. That really isn't what I'd call "many power roles".

Anyway, to the important stuff now: how do you know this, if you're vanilla?

Received a PM. Apparently you get PM'd about it even if you have no particular role to be blocked.

Okay. That's not how these things are usually done on GOG, but it's not unheard of. Any interesting flavour in there?

Hmmm - interesting.

My prod at Detlik was not in all actuality completely serious - i was trying to gauge reactions to voting for him.

GoJays and Stoic both jump in, and it is also telling that Stoic has announced he was roleblocked, and was backed up by GoJays.

I call BS on the roleblock story - if you were vanilla, how the hell do you get roleblocked??? You dont have a role! Also, a PM about it?? Pull the other one, its got bells on it.

Mafia - Stoic and GoJays for sure.

Unvote Detlik

Vote stoicsentry

Because I figured people would be more likely to react to it stated as a fact. And it worked! I'm not at all disregarding it, but now I'm really curious about Bard's block on N1.

Robbeasy, this is the second time you've stated that x and y are definitely mafia... I'm going to need more information if you're going to convince me! And was there a reason why you voted stoic over GoJays?

@Stoic, I agree with Baz, can you tell us some more about the flavour for that?
@Bard: same please!

Mafia roleblocker isn't unheard of, and I agree with Bard that it's interesting the claimed blocker was left alive by 2 different parties last night.

Heh to be honest when I asked for him to be roleblocked I'd forgotten stoic said he was vanilla. Interesting that it would be uncommon for a vanilla to receive the message (I didn't know how that worked). Maybe somebody knows if Damnation's done that in his previous game?

In that case, I fell into your trap, I suppose; though I'm not sure if that means anything. I thought the statement was rather uncharacteristic of you (well, not that I know much about this fancy new NQY persona of yours).

In other news, I'll be gone for the weekend, possibly most of next week as well, and I still haven't finished the reread. Curses!