Microfish_1: nope, not Ideas Mr. Moder... you aren't mod anymore? :O
Bookwyrm627: Life happened. I didn't have enough time to do everything, so I resigned as a mod.
Microfish_1: How would you as town know if they were scum hunting or faking it?
Bookwyrm627: You have grasped the core of the problem. :)
I'm not likely to leave scum alive precisely because of that issue, but if I had a way to confirm they were scum hunting
for real, then I'm willing to listen (for that matter, I might listen anyway because what they choose to say or NOT say may help find their partners). We had a game some time back (one of the System Shock flavour ones, I believe) that had two different scum factions, and town had to figure out which scum to kill to keep either of their teams from winning. Part of that was deciding how much to trust the scum that had just been outed.
Yeah, life happens. At least you now have time to play FM with us!
I don't know that I could ever go along knowingly reads from those who I'm sure are fake-scumhunting, unless it was looking at "who are they protecting" Zeogold wiped the floor with us in a game of discord-based SH. I was a F, and he a L. I decided for good or ill that he was the most dangerous opponent and argued myhead off against him, and when that didn't work proceeded to toss wild accusations and speculations against everyone...except my teammates. I maybe succeeded in "muting" him, but in the process Zeogold realized that I was a barometer for who was F--"if I wasn't attacking them hard enough, they were my teammate or some such". Anyway, the point being that I wouldn't trust a lean-scum who was scum-hunting, except insofar as to see who they defend, but they might purposely defend town in order to throw off others, so.... I think the term is WIFOM?
my name is capitayn catte: it's bitten me in the seat here
yeah. While i admit that usually I, too, do not bother to check who is playing because i know from the signup thread, it's still Not Good to not check the list. because of Joe stating that he'd play this game, I'll be willing to let this one slide, but Don't Do It Again or I'll scrutinize you.
I'm still not sure what to make of the whole ZFR-GH-Lift-Book...circle? parallelogram? ZFR is overly aggressive, but he is often aggressive. So is Book. I want to think that mafia wouldn't be that aggressive, but I've made the mistake with ZFR before of "as mafia, he wouldn't do such and so"...which he then did. I recall arguing with a scum!ZFR until I was blue in the fingers about why such and so was a scummy move, only for his logic to triumph over my correct gut.... All that to say, scum ZFR is every bit as logical and persuasive as town ZFR.
FlockeSchnee: I'm sorry. I'm worried about someone/for someone (I don't know which is correct) close to me. I panicked. I don't want to make a mistake. I feel better now. I will try again. But I don't know, if I will be of much help.
I hope whoever it is is doing better or the reason for worrying is less. I know the feeling all too well, so I can empathize with you. Insofar as making mistakes, the mafia player doesn't exist who doesn't make mistakes--even the most veteran player will mess up regularly.
If I wasn't in the same shoes, #189 wouldn't be satisfactory on any other day.
I'd prefer to see GH or (to a less extent) ZFR lunched. Failing that, I'd be happy with Lift or Book. Then comes NMillar and Catte.
No leans on Botunga, Pooka or Flocke, though vague gut feelings that Blot might be town?
AS OF PAGE 4 (post 200)
Not willing to vote toDay Flocke, Micro, Pooka, Blotunga.
Barely willing to vote Catte or NMillar, though I wannt more from both of them.
Giving Book a D1 soft-pass because of absence. I don't agree with or like his conclusions, but this could be differing playstyles and NAI.
Willing to vote GH / ZFR / Lift GH because some of his arguments feel off, as ZFR puts it. OTOH, ZFR seems overly aggressive, perhaps too much. the cross-tunneling is difficult to read. The sudden back of ZFR on a very thin reason is suspicious. reminds me of bussing or a sudden attempt at pocketing. Then Lift jumped in with a flimsy(?) reasoning that wasn't satisfactory to me.
Reading the early 200s I don't like Lift's arguments. Seems very opportunistic. That plus my feelings of unease about the ZFR/GH/Lift shebang (when are the hebangs?) makes me very likely to vote him by the end of this post, if only because he's the "best" candidate in a pool of no good candidates.
If I understand, you are directly contradicting your own #73? or am I misunderstanding? In 73 are you advocating for or against NL?
Bookwyrm627: we could use random.org
I find this amusing because of all the flak ZFR has received over using random.org to RVS vote in a number of previous games.
ZFR: I'm still definitely not voting Micro (he is neutral on my Town-Scum scale, but he's actively posting), Flocke (Townish) and blotunga (slightly Townish, plus gets some newbie protection).
HOLD up. Full stop...
How and why does Blot get newbie status???? Also, as of this writing I'd been offline for nearly 2 days, and not posting game content for another day beyond that. True, i had been active prior, but then I fizzled due to IRL and headaches, but din't explain this... This post needs explanation or ti just Looks Bad.
GymHenson: *GH picks a glass eye out of the jar near him and points it out into the hall past his cabin, toward where he presumes ZFR is* ROFL, thanks!
wow, the ZFR +GH thing heated up again, still unsure who of Lift/GH/ZFR to vote for] Any one of them seems like a leading candidate.