Also they seem to have brought up(post 256) my change in play style despite me listing my IRL & other reasons earlier

(iirc I even made it easy to spot so everyone would see/note it, so it's odd they seemed to have maybe missed it. Of course then again, maybe they did miss it....dunno how to lean them atm)

Misery is a bit of a stretch, don't ya think? I mean, it may be a bit boring for some, but it's not THAT bad is it?

As for me: I somewhat like the D1 stuff sometimes, partly because I can relax a bit more before the actual "nitty gritty super serious play"(tm) starts.

If I was IC, don't ya think I would've "very subTLy Made that clear by now?

No, i'm sadly just vanilla town.

That said, I am thinking about my vote: should I vote(and put myself at L-1) and hurry this along, or hope I can survive and keep playing? What do you think?

decisions decisions

* pong *

thanks
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This reply is to Nmillar and Blotunga, but also to everyone else as well
(@OP: no votes in this post)
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To both the above: Did neither of ya see my explanation(IRL reasons and lack of flavor to roleplay with) to why my playstyle changed this game?

To everyone else: I find it a bit odd(could just be me focusing as I do, though) that the above two players both either seemed to miss my explanation as to why my playstyle changed this game, or saw it and somehow still find my playstyle odd this game.

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Done for now....yes, I even read Pooka's post above, but didn't want to make a post to reply to that one thing...I did read/note it down, though.

Well y'all what will it be? Are we voting me or what? Or do we focus on someone else?
(tbh I want to keep playing but also slightly wouldn't mind being lynched due to how i'm feeling IRL atm....of course, don't let any of that dissuade any of ya that suspect me from voting for me)

* ping just in case *

Op, you're too kind to me...it wasn't needed, still thanks for that.

To make it count....a note to all: I am willing to vote one of either pair of ZFR/Bookwyrm or Blotunga/Nmillar.
(of course I much more have a feeling about the first group more so than the second, which is mainly there due to what I stated in post 273)

I am also willing to vote NL if none of those are viable.

If you're going to Bowdlerise me, I'd prefer "bottybone" as a substitute for arse. :P

The fact that we have 1 NL at some point in the game is obvious and not what I was referring to. When I invoked The Maths I was actually referring to the fact that D1 is mathematically the best time to do it. When you say "you know that is wrong", what you really mean is that it feels wrong.

And I explained my reasoning for placing my vote there. I'm completely on the back foot toDay, so I'd essentially be voting for someone at random (or worse, be manipulated by scum). Since my vote is not "informed" I might as well go with the mathematically optimal option. Vote for me if you want but I'm not going to be bullied into placing a vote that I don't even have 1% belief in.

As I mentioned before, when trying to balance my own mountainous setup (literally the last game we played here) my eyes were opened. This is obviously my first time playing since then. ZFR said he wasn't going to waste time trying to convince others of it and neither am I, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to do it when I believe it to be the best option for me. If I manage to form an opinion in time then I may place a vote for someone but I'm not going to do it just because you tell me to.

Unvote GH

Sorry, I'm not going to vote someone whom I think is Townie after all, no matter how poorly he plays. Especially not when we can afford an NL.

I'll go to my other suspect for now.

Vote Lift



I think it's *****ic posts like these that make me consider disallowing self-voting in games I host. The **** *** ****** ****** is your self vote going to help us when we analyse your wagon. It's 10x times worse than NL because we lose a lynch attempt, and gain 0 info since everyone on your wagon has an excuse "well, he voted for himself".

Unless you are scum after all, then go ahead.

My man.

I might be up for a Lift lynch(dunno their alignment, etc etc), but they did ask people not to quickhammer....but then that could be scum!Lift trying to make me and others think them to be town.

Dunno what to do(am torn between Lift lynch if he becomes the only viable wagon near deadline and NL).

To clarify(if needed): I meant more on self voting the next to hammer vote and not the hammer(in case that wasn't apparent), and also was only half serious with that.

Also: when a player starts to become disinterested in or put off from a game, would you rather they press themselves on to keep playing...even if they're likely going to be lynched anyways?

Honest question: What would stop anyone from just asking for a replacement or quitting the game then, in such a case?

Good Lord, no. They absolutely should vote themselves when they become disinterested. I mean it's not like they have any other way out, like I don't know... doing nothing at all!! No no, if they become disinterested they should screw over 8 out of 10 players and just vote themselves because they can't wait an additional feww hours without frikin posting.

Don't you see the lack of logic in what you wrote. If you're going to be lynched anyways by your own admission then you don't need to friking do anything about it. Just don't vote. You said you're lynched anyways, no? So at least let us have a proper wagon.

Are you saying/implying it's not a proper wagon and somewhat/mostly useless if I self voted?

Anyways, I am only contemplating it so it's likely I won't self vote.....that said: I am sorry if such goes against how you/anyone else feels the game should be played, but I have to enjoy these games as well, which means mostly playing as I want(with some compromises for the sake of the game and my team)...this includes the option of self voting if I feel the need/desire to do so. You/others don't have to like it, but I would appreciate it if such choices(if I ever made them) could/would be at least tolerated/respected as my personal choice.

You've *got* to be kidding me.

I was trying to make sure I read what you said right. Wouldn't you prefer I do that? Or should I go back to how I was doing it?

Playing how you want is one thing. Actually going to your team and purposely scoring an own goal when you become disinterested instead of simply leaving, makes you a jerk. That's my personal opinion so I would appreciate if you respect it.

So whatever you want. I'm done having any more discussions with you. You like playing the way you want and I'll play the way I want as well.

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I somewhat disagree with it(and how seriously you seem to take these games in general), but I respect it.

Fair enough....though if you are town and I need to get input from you on something I would appreciate it if you'd consider replying to those posts at least.