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HypersomniacLive: You have been hanging out with JMich too much, me thinks, and have been infected by the horrible human being virus.
I was under the impression that it was a state of mind, not a virus.

I'm currently returning home, should be there tomorrow, and normal internet access should be restored. That means I should be back to my normal posting schedule, which I'm sure you've never noticed I wasn't on.

In game related news, I would be happy to vote for either meda or trent, but I do need to read them again first. Yog had most of my attention on D1, so the others have to take a back seat.
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HypersomniacLive: - I don't quite follow what the time of the claim has to do with the number of lynches - we have only one lynch per Day, don't we?
We only have one lynch per day, and there were only two viable lynch candidates late in the Day. Dessimu claimed after most people would be available to talk about it or otherwise respond. I, myself, woke up about 90 seconds before Day end, and just after lynch was achieved.

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HypersomniacLive: - I read the word "townier" as a comparative adjective, i.e. both were (unconfirmed) town(ies), but one looked more town than the other. But you seem to mean that yogsloth was more in the "leaning town" group, while Dessimu was more in the "leaning scum" one, yes? If so, could you say what about him made him look scummy (enough) in your eyes? You did say that he was worth a vote, but never really explained why.
In this case, I'm more referring to a grand Town-Scum slider. Yog was further on the Town end of that slider than Dessimu was. It was a feel to the play, and there aren't exact values.

Yog was stirring things up, yes; you may have noticed a certain something about his claiming pattern as well. Esepecially toward Day end, I was placing Yog leaning town, with a mental tag that he's fooled me before.

Dessimu didn't have the same town feel. There were some pokes, but I didn't have him sorted Town. When the lynch came down to the two of them, I knew which I was willing to sacrifice.

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Bookwyrm627: [...] Instead, lets lynch Meda.

Vote Meda
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HypersomniacLive: Reason(s)?
Several accusations apparently backed by specifics, and yet not willing to actually point out the specifics. But trust her, they're there!. General feel to her posting. I don't think she's town. More later; my son has come to play Gizmos and Gadgets with me for awhile.
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HypersomniacLive: Should I take this reply of yours as a "No" to my question if you went back to re-read him after he claimed? If you did go back, was there something about his posts that convinced you that he was false-claiming? Or did you base your decision to re-vote him solely on the fact that you saw his claim as too convenient, hence a scum action inline with how you felt about him?

So, nothing specific then. I suspected you operated on gut alone, and made pushes to see reactions and determine if your feeling was on the right track. And while cristigale had a reaction you read as supportive to your suspicion, I'm still not sure what about Dessimu's reaction(s) convinced you that you may well be on to something.

Where Lifthrasil and flubbucket your other two suspects from D1? If so, is that also a gut feeling or something specific?
1, I did go back and read him again after he claimed, and as I said in post 381 (thanks again dedo for letting me fix the formatting issue in that post!) his posts felt off, in hindsight I see now that he probably felt off to me as he was unsure how to be town without giving away that he had a PR. I read him as scum trying to hide in plain sight and unfortunately I was wrong.

2, Not solely on the fact that I found his claim to be too convenient, his claim just added to my thought that he was scum trying to get out of being lynched. He put up little fight when it came down to it, it looked like he just hoped we would believe his claim and let him live. I probably should had given more consideration to the fact that if he really was the parity cop that is would have been his first time as a town PR and he might not be comfortable with it. But, I was more sure of yogs being town than I was Dessimu so Dessimu's hesitancy dd not set well with me.

3 Yes they were the other two I was keeping my eye on to see what they did, especially in relation to yog's because of everyone playing yog's was one of the few I felt was strong town. The way flub jumped on yog's wagon with a "I'll put you at L-2 so you can claim" was scum hunting for a PR. Why would flub say he was putting yog's at L-2 to claim? It was a pure fishing attempt to see if yog's really did have a PR or not. And Lift's indignation at yogs was way over played. It felt like to me scum trying to justify and push yog's to a lynch based on a "but he claimed 3 power roles and is lying and we should lynch all liars!". Yog's never claimed anything, he simply left it out there that it was possible he had a PR. I applaud what yog's did day 1 and wish more of us would have done the same, would have really thrown scum into a tizzy if we had. I tried, but did not have the same impact it seems as yog's did.
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HypersomniacLive: And a couple of questions back to you - would you have given Dessimu a chance if you were around at D1's end, or didn't you believe his claim when you saw it? If the latter, what exactly made him so scummy for you that you were willing to risk lynching our Cop? Would you have let it go to No-Lynch D1 if it came down to your vote? If yes, why?
coulda shoulda woulda

What exactly does talking about giving dessimu a chance at the end of day one gain?

I trust no one
*tosses some chicken feed on the ground*

Figured we might want to eat something before the chaos ensues
Nice I collected two fear votes already. Scum are getting desperate and want to mislynch me because my reads are good. Problem: I'm obvtown so it's not going to work for you guys, sorry. You'd better go ahead and bus flubb.

No energy to post anything futher atm sorry, except that I find it really interesting that trent has never once so far this game even pretended to expend any effort in sorting me. I asked him to be masons Day 1 and he immediately accepted, I scumread him today and he doesn't blink an eye about the flip in read and quickly shades me and wagons me loldonuts. Now he's trying to justify his awful attempt at lynching the parity that coincidentally was going to have a result on him the day following.

If I'm wrong on one of my townreads it's Hyper, I could be misreading his goodposting as townposting, don't have it in me to grok that atm but his yog vote yesterday was kinda scummy and he's been pinging me somewhat on a gut level that I haven't yet figured out.

Anyone scumreading Lift needs to seriously check themselves. Anyone not scumreading trent needs to seriously check themselves. Stop ignoring the reads of the dead.
Sorry, I have not participated yet for D2. If I am unable to contribute by Sunday afternoon, I will request a replacement. I think I'll be here after lunch Sunday, but I thought the same thing about Friday evening and most of Saturday.
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RWarehall: I'm off to work shortly, but I'll be looking at it more closely this weekend.
Your last post was 48 or more hours ago. Get to that closer looking right away, please. There won't be a second warning or future prods.
Post edited April 30, 2017 by dedoporno
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RWarehall: I'm off to work shortly, but I'll be looking at it more closely this weekend.
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dedoporno: Your last post was 48 or more hours ago. Get to that closer looking right away, please. There won't be a second warning or future prods.
You are incorrect. May last post was at about 1 pm Friday or about 44 hours ago or about 42 hours ago from the time of your post. The GoG forum software is wonky. It goes by hour for the first 24 hours, then "yesterday" to 36 hours and "2 days ago" runs from 36 hours to 60 hours or an average of 2 days.

Alas, when I got into work on Friday, I discovered my team leader gave himself and 1st shift Saturday off on a mandatory Saturday, meaning I had to go in early Saturday and work 12. Nothing like a 12-hour notice when we are supposed to get 3 days...

I have been roughly following the game from my phone. Trying to figure out the best way to start...I think I'll go with some general observations and work backwards a bit.

The Trent vs. Meda standoff seems to be the center of attention. My first thought is could this be two scum bussing each other since there are no reads left? I'm not convinced that is the case, but one scum flip does not clear the other one...

I really don't like post #411. So much wrong with it. Seriously Meda, how good are your reads (or anyone else's for that matter) when Day 1 everyone in the game piled on two wagons and BOTH have flipped town? Everyone's reads were wrong. I find it hard to believe you are going after Trent on the grounds of "attempting to lynch the parity cop" when you were strongly pushing for it at Yog's insistence near day end.

As to Hyper and Lift, both are capable players. Last game I suspected then as a pair on day one while most others seemingly thought they were untouchable town. I'm not rushing to judgement one way or another.

As to the "reads of the dead", Yogs wanted Dessimu dead, can't do that anymore. Dessimu said lynch Yogs then Bookwyrm. So why is your vote on Trent again? Not defending Trent, as I recall seeing some things that worried me, but let me get there...
I'm having surprise guests from out of town in a bit, so don't have much time. I will try to get on later (my tonight), but no promises.


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Sage103082: coulda shoulda woulda

What exactly does talking about giving dessimu a chance at the end of day one gain?

I trust no one
I'm not sure how to read your tone in this post...

You asked medamiedo if she believed Dessimu's claim because she unvoted him. I'm asking you the same and what you'd have done as you were on his wagon but not around at the time he claimed. Why does you questioning another player gain something, but you answering the same question does not?

So. let's try this again, shall we?

- Did you believe his claim when you read it, or not?
- If yes, would you have unvoted him if you were online at the time, i.e. given him a chance?
- If not, what exactly made him so scummy for you that you were willing to risk lynching our Cop?

My last question is simply asking you what you'd do if you were in my shoes.



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medamiedo: [...] I'm obvtown [...]
Emm... what exactly makes you, or anyone else for that matter, "obvitown" at this point in the game? The only ones I can be sure of being town are the dead.


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medamiedo: [...]. I asked him to be masons Day 1 and he immediately accepted,[...] Now he's trying to justify his awful attempt at lynching the parity that coincidentally was going to have a result on him the day following [...]
You state this as an issue now, yet Yesterday not only didn't it seem to bother you, but you listed him as your strongest town-read ((post #291) after he had accepted (post #150).

As for his "awful" attempt at lynching the Parity Cop, well, at the time you were pretty eager yourself (post #350). We do re-evaluate things after deaths and flips, but that goes for everyone from where I'm standing, and stating that you're obvitown is not exactly the kind of persuasive argument that will make me, probably others too, look at your actions under a different lens from that of trentonlf's ones.

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medamiedo: [...] his yog vote yesterday was kinda scummy [...]
Elaborate, what about it was kinda scummy? And could you also answer Bookwyrm627's question?


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medamiedo: [...] Anyone scumreading Lift needs to seriously check themselves. Anyone not scumreading trent needs to seriously check themselves. Stop ignoring the reads of the dead.
I don't ignore the reads of the dead, but does the fact that the dead flipped town make them 100% accurate? yougsloth scum-read Dessimu, and he flipped town; Dessimu scum-read yogsloth, and he too flipped town.
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trentonlf: 3 Yes they were the other two I was keeping my eye on to see what they did, especially in relation to yog's because of everyone playing yog's was one of the few I felt was strong town. The way flub jumped on yog's wagon with a "I'll put you at L-2 so you can claim" was scum hunting for a PR. Why would flub say he was putting yog's at L-2 to claim? It was a pure fishing attempt to see if yog's really did have a PR or not. And Lift's indignation at yogs was way over played. It felt like to me scum trying to justify and push yog's to a lynch based on a "but he claimed 3 power roles and is lying and we should lynch all liars!". Yog's never claimed anything, he simply left it out there that it was possible he had a PR. I applaud what yog's did day 1 and wish more of us would have done the same, would have really thrown scum into a tizzy if we had. I tried, but did not have the same impact it seems as yog's did.
So really? When he got pushed near lynch, that sure looked like a claim in 197. Whatever happens to the Trent of "no talk of power roles"? The result I saw was utter confusion and the increased risk that some power role might slip and reveal themselves in a reaction or counter-claim. This post seems also very odd to me. Like Trent is somehow using Yog's reveal as town (and his townread of him) as a coattail to townliness.

Even if one or both of Trent/Meda are scum, there's still at least one other "floating" around...at least that's what my gut is saying. Speaking of "gut" my gut is talking again...time for lunch before continuing...
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RWarehall: You are incorrect. May last post was at about 1 pm Friday or about 44 hours ago or about 42 hours ago from the time of your post. The GoG forum software is wonky. It goes by hour for the first 24 hours, then "yesterday" to 36 hours and "2 days ago" runs from 36 hours to 60 hours or an average of 2 days.
Your last post said 2 days ago. Rule 14 explicitly refers to the "2 days ago" label. Your prod and warning remain effective. Next time when you are delayed by external factors make sure to let me know, please. Thanks for getting back to posting.
Post edited April 30, 2017 by dedoporno
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HypersomniacLive: - Did you believe his claim when you read it, or not?
- If yes, would you have unvoted him if you were online at the time, i.e. given him a chance?
- If not, what exactly made him so scummy for you that you were willing to risk lynching our Cop?

My last question is simply asking you what you'd do if you were in my shoes.
Meda had a vote and unvoted. I asked because of this. I feel you are trying to get more an idea of how I play and scum would be on the look out for that. I feel like your looking to see if Im just going to unvote when someone claims a power role. I think each claim and the person who claims - there play up until to that point in the game is what I would base my decision on.

As for your questions - 1. Moot point right now and I am not sure what info town out be gaining for this information. But since you insist we talk about things that can not be changed now and have no barring on how i would keep or remove my vote other then scum seeing how I could react or not.. And even more reminds me of scum trying to see who believed his doctor role in case he was lying about his role as there are no flips this game. You dont like my answer fine you do not have to.

2. n/a

3. again I am not going to give out information on what exactly I found scummy as to give scum any idea of the things l look for or what exactly he said that made my brain so hmm I dont feel so good about that one right there

I am sure these do not answer you the way you wanted but its my answers and I am not playing to give scum any information they can use. Sorry if that upsets you.
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trentonlf: 3 Yes they were the other two I was keeping my eye on to see what they did, especially in relation to yog's because of everyone playing yog's was one of the few I felt was strong town. The way flub jumped on yog's wagon with a "I'll put you at L-2 so you can claim" was scum hunting for a PR. Why would flub say he was putting yog's at L-2 to claim? It was a pure fishing attempt to see if yog's really did have a PR or not. And Lift's indignation at yogs was way over played. It felt like to me scum trying to justify and push yog's to a lynch based on a "but he claimed 3 power roles and is lying and we should lynch all liars!". Yog's never claimed anything, he simply left it out there that it was possible he had a PR. I applaud what yog's did day 1 and wish more of us would have done the same, would have really thrown scum into a tizzy if we had. I tried, but did not have the same impact it seems as yog's did.
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RWarehall: So really? When he got pushed near lynch, that sure looked like a claim in 197. Whatever happens to the Trent of "no talk of power roles"? The result I saw was utter confusion and the increased risk that some power role might slip and reveal themselves in a reaction or counter-claim. This post seems also very odd to me. Like Trent is somehow using Yog's reveal as town (and his townread of him) as a coattail to townliness.

Even if one or both of Trent/Meda are scum, there's still at least one other "floating" around...at least that's what my gut is saying. Speaking of "gut" my gut is talking again...time for lunch before continuing...
I went back and read post 197, yog's is not claiming in that post so I'm not sure what you see that I don't.

I also take it you have not read my post on the matter of yog's hinting he might have a power role or you just chose to ignore what I said. You should go back and read my posts again. I would list the post for you, but giving you the chance to go back over my posts will be good for you.
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*partity cop