Trent, you really need to reread the OP.

She didn't set you up to be the lynch today other than say that she thought you may be scum. Cristi doesn't have lynch-deciding powers.

How in the world would you ignore a parity claim and try to lynch it if you didn't think yog was ccing? That makes no sense to me whatsoever.

What? How do you know whom the Doctor protected? My guess would be that he protected Dessimu but scum double tapped him to make sure the Cop was out of the way. So how do you know that there was a second target that was protected? That sounds an awful lot like scum knowledge and a slip! Or do you have a different explanation?

Also how exactly did cristi set you up? And why did you re-vote Dessi? What made him so scummy in your eyes that it was worth risking a mislynch of a PR?

You know what? I don't like the way you started out today. I don't like how you seem to know more than we and I don't like your reason for voting cristi. I think you are scum. If you're not, please explain your reasons in detail!

vote trentonlf


All in all that was a catastrophic first Day and I am disappointed by yog's play. As I said yesterday his not-so-soft claim made absolutely no sense for town. And look at it's effect: it forced Dessi to reveal himself which led to us losing our cop. It would have been reasonable play for scum to pull out the cop with that claim. But for a townie it should have been apparent that false-(soft)-claiming a PR is very bad for town.

Are you saying you think that scum used the double tap to stop the doctor?

I see Lift has already started the wagon, sweet. Let's lynch me so town can move on to losing.

ok

vote trent

That is some epic level nonsense, Lift. Dessimu was forced to claim because he picked up a bunch of votes and was at risk of lynch. Yog sort-of claiming every single PR is NOT what forced a Dessimu claim.

Assuming that Dessimu was Town (which scum would know), scum had only two reasonable options: 1) Double tap Dessimu, or 2) Kill two other townies. The fact that Dessimu is the only kill last night tells me that scum double tapped him on suspicion of being the Cop, because nearly all of our players would very likely have protected the claimed PR.

Not what I would have done as scum, but it does mean I'm not going to be risking my neck trying to block a Dessimu lynch today.

VOTE COUNT

Today it takes 6 votes to lynch.

trentonlf @ L-5 - Lifthrasil
Bookwyrm627 @ L-5 - medamiedo
cristigale @ L-5 - trentonlf

Not voting - Sage103082, flubbucket, HypersomniacLive, RWarehall, Bookwyrm627, cristigale, JMich

I honestly expected Dessimu to still be alive this morning. I thought scum would have left him for us to lynch, but that's ok it looks like scum will get a mislynch today anyway.

Oh and bookwyrm is town and deserves donuts!

Excuse me, but WHAT? How would you block a lynch on an already dead player? And how would you be risking your neck doing that? And why 'Assuming that Dessimu was Town'? We KNOW that Dessimu was town, no need to assume anything. I ... really don't understand what you want to say with your last sentence.

Wasn't part of "Scum telling 101" that they seem to congratulate the doctor on a job well done? Or is my mind playing tricks with me (again).
Anyway, I agree with wyrm, Dessimu was most likely double tapped. I just hoped that we would be getting that as part of the flavor, but of course, what flavor?

Not voting

Never took that class so I have no idea.

@medamiedo, I voted Dessimu because I didn't believe his claim and I felt yog's was town. So why would I not vote Dessimu in that situation? If I had believed Dessimu I would have voted no lynch or just not voted at all because I was not voting yog's.

I won't be blocking a lynch on a dead player. I had planned to derail a D2 Dessimu lynch if he wasn't the N1 kill, which would have risked my own head. Assume Dessimu had survived N1; the obvious logic (and already laid out at the end of D1) is that after his claim, he only survives N1 if he's scum.

If I were scum and Dessimu were town, I'd have let the doctor try to protect Dessimu while I go out and kill two other people. Target Dessimu for the D2 lynch and clean up his investigations (if necessary) on a later Night.

I put in the assumption that Dessimu was town from the point of view of entering N1. Townies didn't have proof of his being town at that time.

So both the prime lynch candidates turned out to both be town. I'm going to have to take a better look at how that came to pass. Did scum steer us, or leave town to kill town? We had like 6 different votes at one point. It will be interesting to see how we got down to those two.

I'm off to work shortly, but I'll be looking at it more closely this weekend.

I see. Thanks for clarifying.

@trent: really? No lynch over lynching yogs? And that after all the talk in all the past games about no-lynch being usually very, very bad for town on Day 1? What made yogs so towny to you that you would have preferred a no-lynch with no information for town over losing him? And while you're at it, please also answer my other questions: WHY did you see Dessi as so scummy that you were willing to risk mislynching a PR? And how exactly did cristi 'set you up'?

I know this is not a question for me however I have a question based off it.

Did you believe Dess? You unvoted for him right before voting yogs and swinging the hammer.

Might want to unvote bookwyn first before voting trent.