So, I called out sick for work and got fired. Yay me! I'm declaring a personal holiday and will play games. No posting today.

That sucks! I am sorry for you.

I see. Thanks.

@Trent: was that claiming really necessary? I understand why you wanted to get flubb off the hook, if what you say you found is true, but to argue against early claiming and then claim early yourself doesn't really fit. True, a single claim (with a reason, albeit not a good one IMO), is no mass-claim. But still feels strange that you of all people would join the 'claim early' crew. Also your role seems to be structured differently. I had you town so far and at it is still possible that you are. But this cleptomanic twist would also fit very well with a scum role-cop or some neutral role. ... Hmmm. I'll have to think about this and watch you.

Meanwhile: unvote flubbucket ... for the moment I'll take your word, that we shouldn't lynch him.
vote Krypsyn ... He's the remaining one of my two top suspects.


@All: damn, do you have to write so much! ;-)

Yay, I made it in the non-appearing section! I'll most likely also make it there tomorrow (Sunday the 20th), though it's not a certainty.

Comments so far:
1) I don't like trent not mentioning the money until called out on it. Especially in light of last game.
2) While a flavor/role cop does seem weird as a role, the whole game has weird roles. Not sure how much use said role is to town, but it may not be as useless as in other games.
3) On the flub's avatar discussion, flub usually changes avatar to fit the theme of the game, not his role. Take a look at the "Assassin in the Palace" game back when, since flub had changed his avatar to a king image, even though he wasn't the king.
3a) @HyperSomniacLive If the quoted avatar images are too small, open them in a new window an change the _avm.jpg to _avl.jpg, or remove the _avm altogether. If it's from before the site's redesign, then remove the _t part of the image.

I'm sorry to hear that :( Your former bosses are dicks for doing this. I hope it's for the better.

I wonder how important a role the money plays. Is it just flavor or more? We had to show our money (buy-in) to get on the island. Do we have to hold onto our money in order to stay? If flubb is not lynched Today, will something happen to him at the end of the Day with the buy-in gone? Do individual players need their buy-in to be counted as a winner in the game?

CSPVG’s role was Scum Pickpocket. That sounds like the scum equivalent of Trent’s role, so he was likely a scum role cop. Whoever killed agent did not steal his money; it was still on him this morning (although likely very sticky and coconut scented).

So the money could just be flavor. If the money is more than flavor, the twist to Trent’s role could be a negative utility when used on Town. In the same vein, it may be a positive when used on scum. What do you (anyone) think? If the money is simply flavor, then the twist is just that a player possibly knows if Trent visits them.

Pre-post edit: I was assuming Trent is town when thinking that through. If he is scum, seems unlikely to have two role cops. Unless there is more than one team. He could also be a third party. Do you (anyone) read the PickPocket as a role cop?

I didn’t have a name at the start either. During day one, I asked RWarehall about it and he gave me one. I think he made it up on the spot, so I doubt it has any meaningful connection to my role.

Shoot! I had an employer who did something similar, so I can relate. :/
All the best for this to be an opportunity for something better on that front.



You did not know you had money? Everyone of us arrived with their 10 grand buy-in (except RWarehall), which we then kept on us:

Post #2 [emphasis added]: Post #726 [emphasis added] Post #729 [emphasis added]: Did all of the above elude you? Should I ask you the same question I asked CSPVG?


At the time I was trying to find out if trentonlf also took the DVDs, before commenting further on your post - it's right there in the same post I asked you about the money, the very first post I made when I caught up with everything that had transpired while I was away.
A valid question would be why didn't any of those online before me ask trentonlf the question I asked.



So, you're just going to sit there and wait for others to point you to other scum candidates, but it's unfair to say that you're tunnel-visioned... and somehow this is different from what your "useless" players do... Right.


Are you saying that your name/fraction/role line reads:

Yogsloth - Schultz, or Schultzie, or Officer S, or S-Dog (Town Cop)?



Someone make a post, please.

Because of the reason.

The more interesting question in this case would be, why does yogsloth vote on flubbucket without disclosing what his finding is that makes him vote flubbucket.

BTW, she didn't actually answer this part of your question in her post #867.


Apparently, yogsloth's role is also structured differently, but that doesn't seem to have caught your attention. Are you going to say that trentonlf might have copied it from yogsloth?



But you have no problem with flubbucket not mentioning that he got his DVDs stolen?



Why do you assume that the predominant aspect of trentonlf's or CSPVG's role is the "Role" one?
Based on how trentonlf described his night-action, he acted more like a Flavour Cop than a Role Cop - he did not get any definite info on flubbucket's role, but he got a couple of items from him which serve as clues to what his role may be.

Same with CSPVG's role - a Pickpocket is a Thief which is an alias for Flavour Cop.

Whether the money thing is just flavour or more, the twist in trentonlf's role, if he's town, is still a negative utility as it gives him away. Going by what he said, the interesting part about it is that it's out of his control. He could of course be lying about it.

Yes.

Yes.

(There's two posts.....I read someone requested one somewhere)

It really isn't cricket to question yogsloth.

He had reasons (post #731) and they weren't wrong or rash or scummy or OMGUSy or illogical or punitive.

You’re right. Flavour Cop is more fitting in both instances. Trent claimed Role Cop and I had it stuck in my head.

Sorry for the lack of posting yesterday. I wasn't feeling it, and I was a little busy...

Except... it didn't. No one batted an eyelid, no one extra voted for him. I don't think there were enough of us interested in lynching yogs yesterday for him to ever be a valid option. Also, you seem to have missed off the end of this thought, although it may be too late for you to remember what it should have said.
You say confirmed by our town doctor, but that means nothing. So Agent thought yogs was town because his claim made sense in light of his own role, that's fine. I get that. Who's to say scum don't have restricted roles too? Or just general knowledge of the restrictions existence? Yes, it's a bit of a stretch from that to bluffing and claiming town cop day 1, but who knows.
Don't get me wrong, I think yogs is probably town, but he's fooled me before and if anyone is going to fool me it would be him (or Bookwyrm, but he's not here). So I'm not letting him just sail by when he is far from 'confirmed'.

Again, there was more than enough info on the table at that point for him to guess and figure it out, and he didn't exactly (to my memory) add any info that suggested he understood it, he just went "Oh right, I've got it now", which anyone could do. At first he didn't even seem to recognise what HijacK was claiming, which if he has a restricted role as he seems to claim then you would think that would immediately have clicked, no?

See above. There is a lot of info to go on, there's also a lot of town power roles on the table for scum to hit, so it would have been a pretty good scum play.

Fair point, still catching up on yesterday evenings events but I will definitely have a look at the wagons after that.

Sorry dedo, do more to stand out and seem scummy and I'll pay more attention :P

That sucks... sorry to hear that. Hope you can find something else :(

These are some good points... it's possible that trent's role is also (actually?) some sort of delayed Vig... but that begs the question of why would he reveal that fact, unless he needs flub to be booted off for losing his fee rather than being voted off? Or he's scum/neutral and just wants more people gone.

Also, it makes sense that CSPVG and trent have similar roles as the flavour of trent's sounds like a thief / pickpocket, but why was CSPVG's flip Pickpocket whereas trent's claim is Role / Flavour Cop?

Flub's first reply to trentonlf was in post 836. From previous games, I'm under the impression that the flavor/role cops do take the items they find with them, though trentonlf does mention in post 855 that he only takes the items if he fails his check.

It is possible that flub also thought the same about the flavor/role cop taking the items, so he just mentioned the item trentonlf didn't mention, aka the money, or money's as trentonlf called them.